what is Semitism?

Jewjitzu said:
Rotfl... when you call out believer's relationship, you're specifically calling out Jesus as Messiah and acceptance of him based on that.

Tanakh doesn't mention having a relationship with Messiah but with his God. That's the biggest difference between Judaism and Christianity - a religion based on a man instead of God.
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Well said.
 
faith
[fāTH]

NOUN:
complete trust or confidence in someone or something


re·la·tion·ship
[rəˈlāSH(ə)nˌSHip]

NOUN:
the way in which two or more concepts, objects, or persons are connected, or the state of being connected
synonyms:
connection-relation-association-link-correlation-correspondence-alliance-bond-interelation-interconnection
the way in which two or more people or groups regard and behave toward each other

There is no such thing as a "believers relationship" (with God) in the Tanakh.
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that sux 4 some i guess, but not for Abraham and his descendants of the Faith

There are only those who obey God, and those who do not obey God.
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good luck if trusting their own performance over God's performance on their behalf

Per-for-mance
[pərˈfôrməns]

NOUN:
the action or process of carrying out or accomplishing an action, task, or function
a display of exaggerated behavior or a process involving a great deal of time and effort; a fuss


an unBeliever is not completely trusting God, much less completely obeying God
 
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American Gothic said:
faith
[fāTH]

NOUN:
complete trust or confidence in someone or something


re·la·tion·ship
[rəˈlāSH(ə)nˌSHip]

NOUN:
the way in which two or more concepts, objects, or persons are connected, or the state of being connected
synonyms:
connection-relation-association-link-correlation-correspondence-alliance-bond-interelation-interconnection
the way in which two or more people or groups regard and behave toward each other


that sux 4 some i guess, but not for Abraham and his descendants of the Faith


good luck if trusting their own performance over God's performance on their behalf

Per-for-mance
[pərˈfôrməns]

NOUN:
the action or process of carrying out or accomplishing an action, task, or function
a display of exaggerated behavior or a process involving a great deal of time and effort; a fuss


an unBeliever is not completely trusting God, much less completely obeying God
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You're talking about, your focus is a relationship with Christ, who isn't God.
 
to have a trusting Faith relationship with God, one must first Believe
it's a unique requirement and work
the whole of Scripture teaches it/commands belief really

Tanakh doesn't mention having a relationship with Messiah but with his God.
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to believe Messiah, would include believing His God
a relationship with Both really
 
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American Gothic said:
faith
[fāTH]

NOUN:
complete trust or confidence in someone or something


re·la·tion·ship
[rəˈlāSH(ə)nˌSHip]

NOUN:
the way in which two or more concepts, objects, or persons are connected, or the state of being connected
synonyms:
connection-relation-association-link-correlation-correspondence-alliance-bond-interelation-interconnection
the way in which two or more people or groups regard and behave toward each other


that sux 4 some i guess, but not for Abraham and his descendants of the Faith


good luck if trusting their own performance over God's performance on their behalf

Per-for-mance
[pərˈfôrməns]

NOUN:
the action or process of carrying out or accomplishing an action, task, or function
a display of exaggerated behavior or a process involving a great deal of time and effort; a fuss


an unBeliever is not completely trusting God, much less completely obeying God
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You place your faith in Jesus, whom you believe to be the messiah. That is quite different from Abraham putting his faith in God. Secondly, it is obvious from context that this was the sort of faith that is exhibited by obedience, not just a mental assent to certain beliefs.
 
American Gothic said:
to have a trusting Faith relationship with God, one must first Believe
it's a unique requirement and work
the whole of Scripture teaches it/commands belief really
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You're tip toeing around the issue that when Christians say "believer", they are referring to Jesus.

American Gothic said:
to believe Messiah, would include believing His God
a relationship with Both really
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Wrong, a relationship with God. You're trying to pull a scam.
 
Open Heart said:
And the point is, given that you are specifically referring to belief in Jesus, Abraham had no such belief.
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Adam and Eve didn't know specifically who would be Mankind's (and their) kinsman redeemer either
they all had to believe and trust what God said, and to that point had revealed

the content of the Faith can change over time
 
American Gothic said:
Adam and Eve didn't know specifically who would be Mankind's (and their) kinsman redeemer either
they all had to believe and trust what God said, and to that point had revealed

the content of the Faith can change over time
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That's right. There is nothing about ANYONE in the Tanakh having faith in the messiah. The concept didn't exist until the New Testament. That's why Chrsitainity is considered a new religion.
 
Open Heart said:
That's right. There is nothing about ANYONE in the Tanakh having faith in the messiah. The concept didn't exist until the New Testament. That's why Chrsitainity is considered a new religion.
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the Faith was not new

the Hebrew bible says nothing about Messiah?
I believe you are very very mistaken

I don't consider myself Religious
some Christians might be
 
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