What man knoweth?


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Not man-made doctrine.
Every person thinks their teachings are not "man-made" doctrine, as each person derives what they teach from the word of God.

That includes you.

Calvinism is from an exegetical interpretation of Scripture, and those truths offend carnal men because it truly declares the Gospel and God in ALL His glory, not only the ones that make people feel comfortable while turning a blinded eye to His "other" attributes people are offended over.

These truths are rejected in favor of a self-created more manageable God, and place man in control of the gospel results. That's where Arminianism and other Anti-Calvinist teachings come in, having arrived later on the scene.

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Whosoever calls on the Name of the Lord shall be Saved; that's the Gospel.
The problem, of course, is that ONLY WHEN A PERSON IS BEING DRAWN - Conviction of SIN and of Judgement by the Holy Spirit - Is it even POSSIBLE to become Born again - AND according to Eph 2:8,9 even the FAITH to be born again has to be GIFTED by God. The only place "Free will" comes into play is the PERSONAL DECISION to Surrender, and REPENT when they're under conviction of SIN.

Like it or not, Being Born Again Starts with GOD - not with man. That's the aspect of Calvinism that's always been accurate - i.e. GOD MOVES FIRST, and man responds.


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a) Christ tasted death for every man
b) Christ did not taste death for every man
Why dodge? If you want to engage, then answer the question.

Lastly, the above equation isn't nearly as simple as you're attempting to make it. One must know what the text means, not just what it says, nor simply assume the meaning. See how I answered you directly without being disingenuous? Be courteous, be the Christian you claim you are.


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You leaving out a large portion of information.

1. It is an astonishingly good thing that the Gospel is declared to all men, in the tongues of men, by Holy Spirit filled preachers with great "plainness of speech."

1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

2Co 3:12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:

The Holy Spirit imparts knowledge to the preacher, which in turn, preaches the Gospel to natural men in very simple terms they can understand.

2. Deep Spiritual knowledge is NOT REQUIRED to accept the Gospel of Jesus Christ. In fact, if you continue on in what Paul was telling those at Corinth, Paul clearly said they were still carnal.

Do you see that? Still CARNAL.... Yet, they were newly born in Christ.

1Co 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.

In review, you over stating your position. Even new born babies in Christ are CARNAL. Fleshly. The Gospel is preached by mature members of the body of Christ in terms that the natural/carnal men can discern.

There. No need to feel special about yourself that God gave you something He hasn't offered to everyone else. He has. Through the Gospel.
Oh you just like telling me how special you think I am. You are so nice.
But I hate to burst your bubble my friend.
I’m not special.


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Sure you are. You've been chosen and you want others that haven't to burn in hell for all eternity. That is special.
That's why he's here sharing the true Gospel with everyone right? Because he wants them to burn in hell. I can't believe you said that and actually think that. Vile.