Good thing I have a believing mind then. Again, if you can know of a reality beyond your own mind then so can we.Not without depending on a believing mind to make it known to you you can't.
See above. I have a believing mind that believes in a reality (MIPUST) beyond my own mind, just as you have a believing mind that believes in a reality (God's mind) that exists beyond your own mind. Yet clearly one of us believes wrongly, so belief alone does not guarantee truth.Strawman. Not without a believing mind you can't, as we can know the truth, reality and other believing minds by believing what they too believe. But without a believing mind NO truth, reality or other believing mind are knowable to you.
Unsupported that only minds can exist. Besides, we both believe in something existing independently of our own minds, so mind-independence in this specific sense cannot be impossible.Irrelevant, because if it is everything involves knowledge or existence, then you still must have a believing mind in order to know it exists. There is no such thing as "being mind-independent", that's a oxymoronic phrase, being is something only a mind is capable of in reality.
Unsupported that the existence of anything requires a mind. And you are misrepresenting me in order to accuse me of strawmanning. I never said that you think reality exists beyond all minds - I said, quite correctly, that you think reality exists beyond and independently of YOUR mind.Strawman and projection, as I didn't say that the truth, reality and other minds are beyond a believing mind. That's you who is arguing has that position remember, you are covering up the fact that if something exists or involves knowledge, then it requires a believing mind to exist.
No, that's not what I said. You are again 'forgetting' that mind-independence concerns existence, not knowledge. That knowledge of a thing requires a mind shows only that knowledge is mind-dependent, and says nothing about the dependence or independence of the thing known upon any mind.So, "MIPUST" is mind dependent after all then?
I understand that this is exactly what I just said you believe, so that would be the exact opposite of a strawman. Again, you believe in something that exists independently of your own mind, so if you can do that for God then we can do the same for MIPUST.Strawman. If God is reality and reality exists in God's mind, then God has His own believing mind and doesn't depend on ours for His existence. Understand?