But as RCs say that is just your opinion and you are not infallibleOk, guess what? You are wrong.
IMPUTATION: Attribute praise or, more generally, blame to someone whether the person is actually responsible or not [to ascribe to another]. [Fr. John A. Hardon, S.J, Modern Catholic Dictionary]
If you don’t like this definition, you’re not going to like the truth either.
IMPUTED JUSTICE: A Reformation theory that God ceases to impute to a sinner the guilt of one's sins because the merits of Christ are imputed to one in justification. The theory was condemned by the Council of Trent, which declared that, through justification, the sinner is not merely no longer considered sinful (because of Christ's imputed merits) but becomes a child of God, possessed of sanctifying grace and having a right to heaven. [Ibid]
Grace however is infused, a reality marked on the soul, not an attribute, not imputed, or inputted, as many want to say. Martin Luther's philosophy of imputation is salvation stamped on the impure soul of the elect, unable to resist and thus is saved.
If we take imputed justice as the deformationist way, we are left with an illogical enigma. Such a model of grace according to Protestant doctrine is irresistible yet not for the sinner. The sinner is can only be righteous according to God given grace when He covers the dung pile with a white blanket of snowy righteousness of Christ and says, “this is my adopted son”.
If you think that's illogical it gets more convoluted. If God sees into the hearts of men discerning the just and the unjust, why then would he declare the dung pile “righteous”? Does God not have a sense of smell? Holding his nose, God is forced to pick His deformed dung pile to ascend to heaven where the unclean are not permitted – an absurd incongruity. You must wonder about the sincerity of a God when He can create the universe with His word, call it good and can’t discern between just and unjust.
Conversely, the Catholic infusion of grace is true salvation, without a magician’s magic snow-blanket trick. He judges a man righteous based on his faith and his perseverance in good works keeping His Word. God’s grace is freely given to man for perfection in the conversion of faith. In the perfection of one’s justification we are assured salvation, and ever-increasing grace washing and regenerating the soul of a just man.
JoeT
What's the RCC's Teaching About the Doctrine of Justification?
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But as RCs say that is just your opinion and you are not infallible
When is your next post coming. No need to confess that you are wrong and the world doesn't care about your confession either. You are just a fallible man. Your institution lies, liars cannot be trusted. It teaches false doctrines and makes false claims.
JoeT
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bluedog1us
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So says the accursed romanist religion. LOL.....
impute
verb
im·pute im-ˈpyütimputed; imputing
transitive verb
1
: to lay the responsibility or blame for (something) often falsely or unjustly
The economic sins imputed to Tito had all been committed to a greater extent by the communist parties of neighbouring countries. Hugh Seton-Watson
2
: to credit or ascribe (something) to a person or a cause : ATTRIBUTE
our vices as well as our virtues have been imputed to bodily derangement B. N. Cardozo
Find anything in scripture that says or implies that grace is infused into someone. That rcc garbage is worthless! A born again person is RECKONED as righteous...Christ's righteousness is IMPUTED to us...we are deemed righteous because we, by being born again, became the righteousness of Christ...as per 2 Cor 5:21....Now when God looks at us He sees the righteousness of Christ. There is no way to be deemed righteous other than being born again by the Holy Spirit. Not ONE person is going to leave this world righteous and without sin. Only the imputation of Christ's righteousness to us, will we ever have eternal life....and that IZZZZZZZZZZZ the gospel of Jesus Christ. We are save by Grace through faith, if you trust your works, you will be sorely disappointed come judgment day! Plus you have justification backwards. That is what Jesus did on the cross for us, which we could NOT do for ourselves. Paul is very plain in Romans 8:1.....when we are born again there is NOW no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus. We then live a life of sanctification, which means "set apart" from sin and set apart for service to God. Justification is NOT living a life trying to make it to heaven on works we do or don't do. Like I said, you need some major bible study and leave the romanist religion garbage in the trash bin where it belongs. Trent systematically denied the gospel and turned it into a dog and pony show. And a bad one at that!
2 Corinthians 5:21, "He [God] made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him." Here we have a double imputation. God imputed our sins to Christ who knew no sin. And God imputed his righteousness to us who had no righteousness of our own.
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oh this is your next post, meaningless I see.
RayneBeau
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Thanks for posting the solid, inerrant words of God in Romans 4: 20-25 Leonard, but despite the TRUTH, Roman Catholics will still turn their blind eyes and their deaf ears to the twisted RCC teaching that by 'cooperating with the habitual grace' that they they are taught to believe is within themselves, they can arrive at a state of actual righteousness. And it is at that point ONLY that Roman Catholics believe that they are then "declared" to be "just" because, in fact the RCC has artfully persuaded them to believe that they are objectively righteous. And then, by further cooperation with God's grace and through their own individual performance of merit, Roman Catholics actually increase their grace and justification. This is because of the RCC teaching that "the soul becomes good and holy through the infusion of grace." And since these graces are increased through out life, a Roman Catholic will then naturally die in a state of grace. Then the Roman Catholic enters purgatory to pay the final penalty of his sins and to await his heavenly reward. So, in a very real sense then, within Roman Catholicsm, the belief is that justification is simply God's recognition of human merit or goodness.
RayneBeau
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Perhaps a review of this thread would be helpful at this point. In Roman Catholicism, justification is an internal renovation and an empowering of man - both a regeneration and sanctification. Right so far?
And. . . in Roman Catholicism it is believed that it comes through an infusion of God's grace and it means that people, in their own being, are made just or pleasing to God. Okay so far?
And the Catholic Encyclopedia offers this definition of justification: "Primarily and simply justification is the possession of sanctifying grace . . . . hence, . . . Roman Catholics are justified by Christ . . . and by good works . . ."
Is this review correct so far?
JoeT
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Hello Samson! Some real heavy lifting there
Him, who knew no sin, he hath made sin for us, that we might be made the justice of God in him." [2 Corinthians 5:21]. When an animal is sacrificed for the sins of the penitent the offering is said to be made into that sin. That's why it is made to bleed to death. So, when a lamb is sacrificed the thief, the the lamb is made a sacrifice for the sin of thievery. The same hold's true in Paul's epistle to the Corinthians, "he made a sacrifice for sin" so that we might be made justified.
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bluedog1us
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Says not ONE thing about infusion. Sin was imputed to Christ, and righteousness of Christ was imputed to us. See romans 4.
Romans 4:11 NKJV — And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had while still uncircumcised, that he might be the father of all those who believe, though they are uncircumcised, that righteousness might be imputed to them also,
Romans 4:23 NKJV — Now it was not written for his sake alone that it was imputed to him,
Romans 4:24 NKJV — but also for us. It shall be imputed to us who believe in Him who raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead,
So you better let God know He made a mistake?
A new day
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A Rc posted that rc's can take on God's divinity. The totality of His being. No wonder they insist on being infused, instead of God crediting/imputing righteousness to us.
We can't ever partake of God's divinity. Period. NOT gonna happen. He is separate and distinct from all of creation in heaven and on earth. We humans are creation and we will never possess the divine nature of God; Divinity, belongs to God and God alone.
Reminds me of the following Scripture
Ezekiel 28:2
"Son of man, tell the ruler of Tyre that this is what the Lord GOD says: Your heart is proud, and you have said, 'I am a god; I sit in the seat of gods in the heart of the sea.' Yet you are a man and not a god, though you have regarded your heart as that of a god.
Isaiah 14:14-15
I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.” But you will be brought down to Sheol, to the lowest depths of the Pit.
We can't ever partake of God's divinity. Period. NOT gonna happen. He is separate and distinct from all of creation in heaven and on earth. We humans are creation and we will never possess the divine nature of God; Divinity, belongs to God and God alone.
Reminds me of the following Scripture
Ezekiel 28:2
"Son of man, tell the ruler of Tyre that this is what the Lord GOD says: Your heart is proud, and you have said, 'I am a god; I sit in the seat of gods in the heart of the sea.' Yet you are a man and not a god, though you have regarded your heart as that of a god.
Isaiah 14:14-15
I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.” But you will be brought down to Sheol, to the lowest depths of the Pit.