When Jesus Christ Returns It Will Be (The End) Not The Start Of A Millennial Kingdom On Earth

Truth7t7

Truth7t7

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Who are the they?
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The "Future" Church those persecuted for the name of Jesus Christ, those that will witness the "Future" armies surround Jerusalem, those that will witness the "Future" second coming

You sure want to cancel that seen below, so you can maintain your pre-trib rapture, that is in the same book of fairy tales and fables as Santa Claus and Alice in Wonderland

In Love, Jesus Is The Lord

Luke 17:17-21KJV
17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.
18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish.
19 In your patience possess ye your souls.
20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
 
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CrowCross

CrowCross

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Truth7t7 said:
The "Future" Church those persecuted for the name of Jesus Christ, those that will witness the "Future" armies surround Jerusalem, those that will witness the "Future" second coming

You sure want to cancel that seen below, so you can maintain your pre-trib rapture, that is in the same book of fairy tales and fables as Santa Claus and Alice in Wonderland

In Love, Jesus Is The Lord

Luke 17:17-21KJV
17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.
18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish.
19 In your patience possess ye your souls.
20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
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So?????? What does the destruction of Jerusalem have to do with it? Titus already did that.
 
Truth7t7

Truth7t7

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CrowCross said:
So?????? What does the destruction of Jerusalem have to do with it? Titus already did that.
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Did Titus Fulfill Revelation 11:2 below?

Revelation 11:2KJV
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
 
CrowCross

CrowCross

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Truth7t7 said:
Did Titus Fulfill Revelation 11:2 below?

Revelation 11:2KJV
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
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No.
 
Truth7t7

Truth7t7

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CrowCross said:
No.
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We Agree, Revelation 11:2 didnt take place in 70AD

Revelation 11:2 & Luke 21:20-28 Are future events unfulfilled, Yes these events will be witnessed by the Church on earth

Will you continue to fight for a pre-trib rapture, in disregard of the presented scripture?

Revelation 11:2KJV
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

Luke 21:20-28KJV
20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
 
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rod.ney

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Truth7t7 said:
Exposing false doctrine is called for in Gods words, modern day language it's called apologetics

Dispensationalism in a pre-trib rapture and Millennial Kingdom are false teachings, Jesus Christ isnt going to return and start a Millennial Kingdom on the earth as many falsely teach, beware of the future antichrist
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Rev.19:11-21 & 20:1-6 Proves He will and Zech.14:16 shows those surviving people of the Great Trib. going to Jerusalem each of those years ( 1000 ) to worship the returned Christ in person in His Glorious Supernatural Flesh & Bone resurrection Body! Case closed on T7t7's twisted view ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) of those posted scriptures!
 
Truth7t7

Truth7t7

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Rev.19:11-21 & 20:1-6 Proves He will and Zech.14:16 shows those surviving people of the Great Trib. going to Jerusalem each of those years ( 1000 ) to worship the returned Christ in person in His Glorious Supernatural Flesh & Bone resurrection Body! Case closed on T7t7's twisted view ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) of those posted scriptures!
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Zechariah 14:16, Who Will Be Left Of The Nations?

You will closely note, Zechariah 14:16 & Isaiah 4:3-4 are "Parallel" readings of the same event, as Isaiah gives a clear account of those who are left, those who are found in the book of life, the final judgement has passed, eternity has begun "After" The Day Of The Lord

You will closely note in Isaiah 4:4 below, Jerusalem will be purged by the spirit of (Judgement) & (Burning)

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Only The Righteous Are Left, The Book Of Life "Was" Opened (Every One That Is Written Among The Living)

Zechariah 14:16KJV
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Isaiah 4:3-4KJV
3 And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:
4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.

Revelation 21:24-27KJV
24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
 
CrowCross

CrowCross

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Truth7t7 said:
We Agree, Revelation 11:2 didnt take place in 70AD

Revelation 11:2 & Luke 21:20-28 Are future events unfulfilled, Yes these events will be witnessed by the Church on earth

Will you continue to fight for a pre-trib rapture, in disregard of the presented scripture?
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Witnessed by the post raptured converts and Jews.
 
Truth7t7

Truth7t7

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CrowCross said:
Witnessed by the post raptured converts and Jews.
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Witnessed by the church on earth

A pre-trib rapture is man made sci-fi, found no place in scripture

Your proof of that, as you lurk around with one liners without scriptural argument, because you know there aren't any
 
CrowCross

CrowCross

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Truth7t7 said:
Witnessed by the church on earth

A pre-trib rapture is man made sci-fi, found no place in scripture

Your proof of that, as you lurk around with one liners without scriptural argument, because you know there aren't any
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Do you think the pre-trib raptured saints will be able to look down..or use whatever news media God has set up...and witness the tribulation?
 
CrowCross

CrowCross

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Truth7t7 said:
There will be no pre-trib rapture as you claim, a false teaching of man
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If you notice the Church isn't mentioned after chapter 4 in the book of Revelation....during the tribulation, time of Jacobs trouble (for the Jews).

The reason is simple....the church has been raptured. What are you going to do when you are left behind? Will you be part of the UFO's took them crowd?
 
Truth7t7

Truth7t7

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CrowCross said:
If you notice the Church isn't mentioned after chapter 4 in the book of Revelation....during the tribulation, time of Jacobs trouble (for the Jews).

The reason is simple....the church has been raptured. What are you going to do when you are left behind? Will you be part of the UFO's took them crowd?
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There will be no pre-trib rapture as you claim, a false teaching of man

Stop repeating Dispensationalism's propaganda, and start posting scripture with your claims, I have heard every argument you can present 100 times over, give me a new one, smiles!

I believed as you for 20 years, until I questioned the teaching and its foundation, thats found in John N. Darby & Adulterer C.I. Scofield, I didn't have a clue
 
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CrowCross

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Truth7t7 said:
There will be no pre-trib rapture as you claim, a false teaching of man

Stop repeating Dispensationalism's propaganda, and start posting scripture with your claims, I have heard every argument you can present 100 times over, give me a new one, smiles!

I believed as you for 20 years, until I questioned the teaching and its foundation, thats found in John N. Darby & Adulterer C.I. Scofield, I didn't have a clue
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So far you have not been convincing....
 
CrowCross

CrowCross

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Truth7t7 said:
More scripture to support your claim of a rapture, and less talk

P.S. your gonna have a hard time finding scripture, because it doesn't exist
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Yeah...and the same sort of people like you tell me Jesus isn't God or need to be baptized to be saved. They too tell me there is no scripture.

Tribulation belief isn't a requirement for salvation.
 
Truth7t7

Truth7t7

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CrowCross said:
Yeah...and the same sort of people like you tell me Jesus isn't God or need to be baptized to be saved. They too tell me there is no scripture.

Tribulation belief isn't a requirement for salvation.
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I believe Jesus Christ Is God Almighty, The Alpha And Omega

Baptism Isn't A requirement for salvation, but a biblical instruction

More scripture less story telling

P.S. your gonna have a hard time finding scripture, because it doesn't exist

In Love, Jesus Is The Lord
 
CrowCross

CrowCross

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Truth7t7 said:
I believe Jesus Christ Is God Almighty, The Alpha And Omega

Baptism Isn't A requirement for salvation, but a biblical instruction

More scripture less story telling

P.S. your gonna have a hard time finding scripture, because it doesn't exist

In Love, Jesus Is The Lord
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Plenaty out there. Rev 3:10 Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth.

Thes 2 :6 mentions a restrainer...Whether it is the elect or the Holy Spirit...they are gone..prior to the revealing of the anti-christ.

Jesus will come back in the same way he left...Acts talks about that. Jesus didn't leave riding a white horse.

As I said, if you want to believe in a post trip rapture..have at it.
 
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