Where are the corpses?

Whateverman

Well-known member
The poison jabs have been administered to billions of people. Why aren't there mile-high piles of dead bodies?

If the vaccines are dangerous, surely there'd be enough evidence of this that it couldn't be hidden from helicopters with traffic cams, or police with body cams, or intrepid right-wing sleuths with cheap smart phones. Satellites would pick up mass burial sites; there'd be Fox Investigation photos of huge plots of land recently overturned for mysterious purposes.

It's not like millions of people could die without SOMEONE noticing it.

So... where's all the evidence of mass vaccine deaths?
 

CrowCross

Well-known member
Where'd all the right-wing anti-vaxers go?
It's only 8:26 long....enjoy!!!



Canadian doctor Charles Hoffe believes that the mRNA shots manufacture microscopic blood clots in the capillaries of the vaccinated and at least 60 percent could eventually succumb to heart failure. He says there are 40 TRILLION mRNA molecules in a single dose! Dr. Hoffe explains: “We now know that only 25 percent of the ‘vaccine’ injected into a person’s arm actually stays in your arm. The other 75 percent is collected by your lymphatic system and literally fed into your circulation so these little packages of messenger RNA, and by the way in a single dose of Moderna ‘vaccine’ there are literally 40 trillion mRNA molecules....continue to article.
 

Gondwanaland

Active member
The poison jabs have been administered to billions of people. Why aren't there mile-high piles of dead bodies?

If the vaccines are dangerous, surely there'd be enough evidence of this that it couldn't be hidden from helicopters with traffic cams, or police with body cams, or intrepid right-wing sleuths with cheap smart phones. Satellites would pick up mass burial sites; there'd be Fox Investigation photos of huge plots of land recently overturned for mysterious purposes.

It's not like millions of people could die without SOMEONE noticing it.

So... where's all the evidence of mass vaccine deaths?
Who says it's going to be a quick death? Or that death itself is the end goal? Sterilization, for example, would take much much longer to detect, if we want to go into conspiracyland. So would deliberate alterations to DNA.
 

Bonnie

Super Member
Here is information about the spike proteins and how they work and what happens after one gets vaccinated against Covid-19, from a scientific journal:


What the researchers did was create a pseudovirus – a protein shell with spike proteins but no viral RNA inside. Therefore these pseudoviruses are unable to actually infect cells or replicate. The point was to isolate as much as possible the effects of the spike proteins themselves. They report:

We administered a pseudovirus expressing S protein (Pseu-Spike) to Syrian hamsters intratracheally. Lung damage was apparent in animals receiving Pseu-Spike, revealed by thickening of the alveolar septa and increased infiltration of mononuclear cells.
They had control animals with a mock virus that did not show this damage. The spike protein binds to the ACE2 receptor on cells, downregulates their function, and causes damage to the endothelium cells that line lung tissue and blood vessels. The damage is apparently caused by effects on the mitochondria (energy producing organelles) in the cells – they change their shape and have reduced function. They then reproduced these effects in vitro using a culture of lung endothelial cells exposed to the spike protein.

This study showed that the spike proteins on the VIRUS ITSELF can cause damage to the vascular system. But the spike proteins produced by the vaccine react differently in the body and are fairly quickly neutralized.

Some more from the same journal:


Vaccine-derived spike proteins differ from the spike protein produced in infection and behave differently in the body​

Bridle’s claim rests on the assumption that if the viral spike protein causes cardiovascular toxicity in COVID-19 patients, the spike protein produced in vaccinated people should be toxic as well. However, this assumption is incorrect because there are important differences between the spike protein produced during infection and the spike protein produced by vaccination.

While both mRNA vaccines and viral vector vaccines carry the instructions to produce the entire spike protein, the cells break down much of the protein into small fragments. Furthermore, unlike infection, the spike protein from COVID-19 vaccination doesn’t get assembled into new viral particles. Instead, it contains a component that makes it attach to the cell surface as it would do to the viral surface. Finally, the spike protein produced by the U.S. FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccines is genetically modified to enhance the immune response and prevent its binding to ACE2 receptors[7].

Contrary to Bridle’s assumption, these differences suggest that vaccine-derived and infection-derived spike protein “behave very differently” in the body, as the Salk Institute stated in a press release.

And finally, from the same medical journal, something about the vaccines supposedly affecting fertility, complete with graphs:


There isn’t evidence showing that COVID-19 RNA vaccines are causing fertility problems. Notably, some participants in the clinical trials for COVID-19 RNA vaccines became pregnant during the trial. The Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee that reviews the safety, effectiveness, and appropriate use of vaccines published briefing documents that detailed the outcomes in pregnant trial participants.

For the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, the briefing document stated:

Twenty-three pregnancies were reported through the data cut-off date of November 14, 2020 (12 vaccine, 11 placebo). […] Unsolicited [adverse events] related to pregnancy include spontaneous abortion and retained products of conception, both in the placebo group.
For the Moderna vaccine, the briefing document stated:

Thirteen pregnancies were reported through December 2, 2020 (6 vaccine, 7 placebo). […] Unsolicited [adverse events] related to pregnancy include a case of spontaneous abortion and a case of elective abortion, both in the placebo group.

Do note that the adverse events in the pregnancies happened in the placebo group--not the vaccinated group.

There are lots and lots of imbedded links in all of these articles, but I wanted to put these links down to counteract misinformation about the vaccine, since there is so much of it out there. Oh, and the vaccines cannot alter our DNA. I thought that old canard had finally been put to rest, but I guess not.
 

CrowCross

Well-known member
Here is information about the spike proteins and how they work and what happens after one gets vaccinated against Covid-19, from a scientific journal:




This study showed that the spike proteins on the VIRUS ITSELF can cause damage to the vascular system. But the spike proteins produced by the vaccine react differently in the body and are fairly quickly neutralized.

Some more from the same journal:




And finally, from the same medical journal, something about the vaccines supposedly affecting fertility, complete with graphs:




Do note that the adverse events in the pregnancies happened in the placebo group--not the vaccinated group.

There are lots and lots of imbedded links in all of these articles, but I wanted to put these links down to counteract misinformation about the vaccine, since there is so much of it out there. Oh, and the vaccines cannot alter our DNA. I thought that old canard had finally been put to rest, but I guess not.
I started a thread here,which pretty much suggust your links have been sanitized.

It shows before and after picture of T-cells in blood and the damage that can happen to them.
 

CrowCross

Well-known member
From the article......Inaccurate: The biodistribution study found that the injection site retained the highest concentration of lipid nanoparticles, not the ovaries.
Post 3 shows that statement to be incorrect.

“We now know that only 25 percent of the ‘vaccine’ injected into a person’s arm actually stays in your arm. The other 75 percent is collected by your lymphatic system and literally fed into your circulation
 

CrowCross

Well-known member
Sorry, but my links came from actual medical, scientific sources, not Natural News, or Brighteon videos. My links are loaded with other links one can follow to other reports the article is based upon.
Bonnie, Bonnie, Bonnie.....the platform Natural News, or Brighteon is only the messenger...and you like to shoot the messenger.

The people they inerview typically have actually performed the studies or have the credentials to report on them.
 

CrowCross

Well-known member
Sorry, but my links came from actual medical, scientific sources, not Natural News, or Brighteon videos. My links are loaded with other links one can follow to other reports the article is based upon.
Part 2

From the last article:
After the Pfizer vaccine full spike proteins are expressed on the vaccinated cells for presentation to the immune system. But the vaccine-induced proteins do not appear to cause any harmful effects. This may be because the vaccine is administered in the muscle, and so muscle cells are the ones taking up the mRNA and making spike proteins. There is a vigorous immune response which neutralizes the spike proteins before they can cause any harm. This is very different from a virus replicating throughout the body.

Now Bonnie, we know that statement isn't true. Many of the spikes leake the poison jab site and travel through out the body. In some cases the spikes have causes blood clotting..to the point they had to stop the use of some of the jabs a feew month ago and put warnings on the product.

Your "actual medical, scientific sources"...seems to be incorrect.
 

Bonnie

Super Member
Bonnie, Bonnie, Bonnie.....the platform Natural News, or Brighteon is only the messenger...and you like to shoot the messenger.ple

CC, CC. CC....both of these sources are KNOWN for pseudo-science, wild conspiracy theories, and posting stuff that is inaccurate! Should I rely on such sites for ACCURATE information about the virus and the vaccines?

The people they inerview typically have actually performed the studies or have the credentials to report on them.
And the people in the links I provided did NOT perform the studies the articles were based upon? Like the Salk institute? Here is a list of the sources used in the first of my links:

  • 1 – Hoffmann et al. (2020) SARS-CoV-2 Cell Entry Depends on ACE2 and TMPRSS2 and Is Blocked by a Clinically Proven Protease Inhibitor. Cell.
  • 2 – Malik et al. (2021) Targets and strategies for vaccine development against SARS-CoV-2. Biomedicine and Pharmacotherapy.
  • 3 – Pellicori et al. (2021) COVID‐19 and its cardiovascular effects: a systematic review of prevalence studies. Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews.
  • 4 – Varga et al. (2020) Endothelial cell infection and endotheliitis in COVID-19. The Lancet.
  • 5 – Nuovo et al. (2021) Endothelial cell damage is the central part of COVID-19 and a mouse model induced by injection of the S1 subunit of the spike protein. Annals of Diagnostic Pathology.
  • 6 – Lei et al. (2021) SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Impairs Endothelial Function via Downregulation of ACE 2. Circulation Research.
  • 7 – Kirchdoerfer et al. (2018) Stabilized coronavirus spikes are resistant to conformational changes induced by receptor recognition or proteolysis. Scientific Reports.
  • 8 – Gómez-Mesa et al. (2021) Thrombosis and Coagulopathy in COVID-19. Current Problems in Cardiology.
  • 9 – Ogata et al. (2021) Circulating SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine Antigen Detected in the Plasma of mRNA-1273 Vaccine Recipients. Clinical Infectious Diseases.
  • 10 – Goldsmith et al. (2020) Electron microscopy of SARS-CoV-2: a challenging task. The Lancet.
  • 11 – Ramírez Hernández et al. (2021) The Role of the SARS-CoV-2 S-Protein Glycosylation in the Interaction of SARS-CoV-2/ACE2 and Immunological Responses. Viral Immunology.
  • 12 – Buzhdygan et al. (2020) The SARS-CoV-2 spike protein alters barrier function in 2D static and 3D microfluidic in-vitro models of the human blood–brain barrier. Neurobiology of Disease.
  • 13 – Fraga-Silva et al. ACE2 Activation Promotes Antithrombotic Activity. Molecular Medicine.
  • 14 – Ferro et al. (2007) Cerebral venous thrombosis: an update. Lancet Neurology.
  • 15 – Wafa et al. (2020) Burden of Stroke in Europe: Thirty-Year Projections of Incidence, Prevalence, Deaths, and Disability-Adjusted Life Years. Stroke.
  • 16 – Mesnage et al. (2017) Facts and Fallacies in the Debate on Glyphosate Toxicity. Frontiers in Public Health.
  • 17 – Sungnak et al. (2020) SARS-CoV-2 entry factors are highly expressed in nasal epithelial cells together with innate immune genes. Nature Medicine.

Here is the list from my third link, on the vaccine and fertility:

  • 1 – Lei et al. (2021) SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Impairs Endothelial Function via Downregulation of ACE 2. Circulation Research.
  • 2 – Ogata et al. (2021) Circulating SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine Antigen Detected in the Plasma of mRNA-1273 Vaccine Recipients. Clinical Infectious Diseases.
  • 3 – Olliaro et al. (2021) COVID-19 vaccine efficacy and effectiveness—the elephant (not) in the room. The Lancet Microbe.
  • 4 – Dagan et al. (2021) BNT162b2 mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine in a Nationwide Mass Vaccination Setting. New England Journal of Medicine.

i had to take out all of the links in these sources.

Sorry, I don't get my medical and scientific information from NN or Brighteon.
 
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CrowCross

Well-known member
CC, CC. CC....both of these sources are KNOWN for pseudo-science, wild conspiracy theories, and posting stuff that is inaccurate! Should I rely on such sites for ACCURATE information about the virus and the vaccines?
Yes, it was pretty wild when such sites were telling people the virus was made in a lab.

But there is a few screwballs...flat earth style people...but for the most part the Mike Adams interviews are from recognized doctors, virologist, scientist etc. Sheeze, he even interviewed one of the inventors od the mRNA style gene therapy. Now we all know he didn't have "ACCURATE information".
 

Bonnie

Super Member
Here are the references from my second link; it is the longest:

  • 1 – Hoffmann et al. (2020) SARS-CoV-2 Cell Entry Depends on ACE2 and TMPRSS2 and Is Blocked by a Clinically Proven Protease Inhibitor. Cell.
  • 2 – Malik et al. (2021) Targets and strategies for vaccine development against SARS-CoV-2. Biomedicine and Pharmacotherapy.
  • 3 – Pellicori et al. (2021) COVID‐19 and its cardiovascular effects: a systematic review of prevalence studies. Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews.
  • 4 – Varga et al. (2020) Endothelial cell infection and endotheliitis in COVID-19. The Lancet.
  • 5 – Nuovo et al. (2021) Endothelial cell damage is the central part of COVID-19 and a mouse model induced by injection of the S1 subunit of the spike protein. Annals of Diagnostic Pathology.
  • 6 – Lei et al. (2021) SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Impairs Endothelial Function via Downregulation of ACE 2. Circulation Research.
  • 7 – Kirchdoerfer et al. (2018) Stabilized coronavirus spikes are resistant to conformational changes induced by receptor recognition or proteolysis. Scientific Reports.
  • 8 – Gómez-Mesa et al. (2021) Thrombosis and Coagulopathy in COVID-19. Current Problems in Cardiology.
  • 9 – Ogata et al. (2021) Circulating SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine Antigen Detected in the Plasma of mRNA-1273 Vaccine Recipients. Clinical Infectious Diseases.
  • 10 – Goldsmith et al. (2020) Electron microscopy of SARS-CoV-2: a challenging task. The Lancet.
  • 11 – Ramírez Hernández et al. (2021) The Role of the SARS-CoV-2 S-Protein Glycosylation in the Interaction of SARS-CoV-2/ACE2 and Immunological Responses. Viral Immunology.
  • 12 – Buzhdygan et al. (2020) The SARS-CoV-2 spike protein alters barrier function in 2D static and 3D microfluidic in-vitro models of the human blood–brain barrier. Neurobiology of Disease.
  • 13 – Fraga-Silva et al. ACE2 Activation Promotes Antithrombotic Activity. Molecular Medicine.
  • 14 – Ferro et al. (2007) Cerebral venous thrombosis: an update. Lancet Neurology.
  • 15 – Wafa et al. (2020) Burden of Stroke in Europe: Thirty-Year Projections of Incidence, Prevalence, Deaths, and Disability-Adjusted Life Years. Stroke.
  • 16 – Mesnage et al. (2017) Facts and Fallacies in the Debate on Glyphosate Toxicity. Frontiers in Public Health.
  • 17 – Sungnak et al. (2020) SARS-CoV-2 entry factors are highly expressed in nasal epithelial cells together with innate immune genes. Nature Medicine.
I had to take out most of the links, so as not to go over the limit.
 

Fenuay

Well-known member
The poison jabs have been administered to billions of people. Why aren't there mile-high piles of dead bodies?

If the vaccines are dangerous, surely there'd be enough evidence of this that it couldn't be hidden from helicopters with traffic cams, or police with body cams, or intrepid right-wing sleuths with cheap smart phones. Satellites would pick up mass burial sites; there'd be Fox Investigation photos of huge plots of land recently overturned for mysterious purposes.

It's not like millions of people could die without SOMEONE noticing it.

So... where's all the evidence of mass vaccine deaths?
I think a lot of people who are worried about the vaccines fear what we may see in the next ten years or so post vaccine. I have seen reactions at the hospital I worked for but they all passed within a few days. We have had no deaths at the hospital that have been directly attributed to the vaccine. In time who knows what we will see. I personally believe nothing will come of it. My concern is just for those who cannot get the shot for medical reasons. But most of those will only be temporary and they will be able to receive the vaccine in time. If not they will likely be too sick to work or have much concern about being vaccinated if everyone around them is.
 

Fenuay

Well-known member
Here is information about the spike proteins and how they work and what happens after one gets vaccinated against Covid-19, from a scientific journal:




This study showed that the spike proteins on the VIRUS ITSELF can cause damage to the vascular system. But the spike proteins produced by the vaccine react differently in the body and are fairly quickly neutralized.

Some more from the same journal:




And finally, from the same medical journal, something about the vaccines supposedly affecting fertility, complete with graphs:




Do note that the adverse events in the pregnancies happened in the placebo group--not the vaccinated group.

There are lots and lots of imbedded links in all of these articles, but I wanted to put these links down to counteract misinformation about the vaccine, since there is so much of it out there. Oh, and the vaccines cannot alter our DNA. I thought that old canard had finally been put to rest, but I guess not.
Yeah some of the thoughts about what the vaccine can do are ludacris.
 

Fenuay

Well-known member
Part 2

From the last article:
After the Pfizer vaccine full spike proteins are expressed on the vaccinated cells for presentation to the immune system. But the vaccine-induced proteins do not appear to cause any harmful effects. This may be because the vaccine is administered in the muscle, and so muscle cells are the ones taking up the mRNA and making spike proteins. There is a vigorous immune response which neutralizes the spike proteins before they can cause any harm. This is very different from a virus replicating throughout the body.

Now Bonnie, we know that statement isn't true. Many of the spikes leake the poison jab site and travel through out the body. In some cases the spikes have causes blood clotting..to the point they had to stop the use of some of the jabs a feew month ago and put warnings on the product.

Your "actual medical, scientific sources"...seems to be incorrect.
This would be a problem for immunocompromised individuals, but they are counter indicated to receive the vaccine in most cases.
 

Gus Bovona

Well-known member
But there is a few screwballs...flat earth style people...but for the most part the Mike Adams interviews are from recognized doctors, virologist, scientist etc. Sheeze, he even interviewed one of the inventors od the mRNA style gene therapy. Now we all know he didn't have "ACCURATE information".
Remember that **everything** at Natural News - including interviews with scientists - isn't expert advice? From Natural News:
No information on this site is intended as, or shall be construed as, legal, financial, medical or expert advice of any kind
Strangely, I couldn't find anything like that at the CDC web site.
 
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