Where does the claim of 30,000+ protestant denominations come from and what exactly defines a denomination?
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Jesus would have nothing to do with your evil institution. The word Catholic is NOT in scripture, so Jesus did not found the Catholic church it is not in His word.
You are diverting and of course you have no intention of proving anything because you are completely incapable of doing so. Yes you are right the actions of your institution reveals the truth about it. It is the evil tree and has bad fruit. It is not founded by Jesus, Jesus never founded an institution that would harm children for a start, He would never start an institution that would hide sin, teach false doctrine, lie about others etc. Yep the RCC and its actions shout it is not JESUS' church at all.
It is only the spiritual blind who cannot see what the RCC is saying and what its actions tell us.
Bob Carabbio
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Might as well talk to a brick wall as to a Catholic "true believer".
JoeT
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Are you saying Jesus Christ is evil, because he instituted this institution?
Maybe not. Nor do planes, trains, or automobiles. Are you saying they don't exist?
Boy, I'm getting a lot of compliments today!
Is this a ploy for moral superiority? It doesn't work and it doesn't suit you.
I can see just fine. What about you?
JoeT
Do not twist what I wrote. That is bearing FALSE WITNESS but I am sure being an RC you can justify doing that.
JoeT
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No you didn't but you have shown how you misuse the posts of others. And prove what I believe that RCs cannot read and understand scripture, if they cannot understand a simple post then the scriptures fly right over their heads.
Lastdaysbeliever
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Another lie of the idolatrous RCc. I have no need of a "spiritual mother" but you'll get better traction with such over on the Mormon forum.
Acts7:48 However, the Most High does not dwell in houses made by human hands. As the prophet says: 49 'Heaven is My throne
and the earth is My footstool. What kind of house will you build for Me, says the Lord,
or where will My place of repose be? 50 Has not My hand made all these things?’ 51You stiff-necked people with uncircumcised hearts and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit, just as your fathers did.
I am a follower of the Way! You are a member of a religious institution, not in the Body of Christ.
When much of what you Rc's claim is good and true from your ecf's does not align with God's written Word. That's why you default to them in your arguments.
You didn't answer the questions.
Do I?
I love those verses.
I don't need RCism to believe God and what He has given us in His written Word.
No. Your self-appointed churches authority is just that, self-appointed.
What else should a purposeful lie be called...
Oh, I recognize you now. You're the RC that claimed I have called a curse upon me for rejecting your institution. Well, bless you JoeT.
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JoeT
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Hey, that is Great! Even still, what about the sacraments?
But that worries me, unclean spirits knew who Christ was. [Mark 1:23-24].
JoeT
Lastdaysbeliever
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N/T
Lastdaysbeliever
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More rules, dogmas and traditions that are not of Christ but men.
What are you implying? Be honest.
Paul the Wise Masterbuilder
says
But JoeT says
We are the adopted sons of God [John 1:12], hence Mary is our Spiritual Mother.
JoeT said:
Mary is the Mother of Jesus Christ. We are the adopted sons of God [John 1:12], hence Mary is our Spiritual Mother.
================ end Joe's ???????
ahhhh, Joe; Paul says
the Church of the Romans, aka the RCC
mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem,
which is the mother of the children of God
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There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus,
Verily, verily, I say unto thee,
Except a man be born again,
he cannot see the kingdom of God.
..
How can these things be?
.
If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not,
how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
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Jesus answered and said unto him,
Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
Joe;
doesn't the Masters of the RCC know these things
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says
Gal. 4:4
But when the fulness of the time was come,
God sent forth his Son, made of a woman,
made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law,
that we might receive
the adoption of sons.
But JoeT says
We are the adopted sons of God [John 1:12], hence Mary is our Spiritual Mother.
JoeT said:
Mary is the Mother of Jesus Christ. We are the adopted sons of God [John 1:12], hence Mary is our Spiritual Mother.
================ end Joe's ???????
ahhhh, Joe; Paul says
Jerusalem which is above is free,
which is the mother of us all.
and that ain'tthe Church of the Romans, aka the RCC
for the son of the bondwoman
shall not be
heir with the son of the freewoman.
mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem,
which is the mother of the children of God
===========================================
There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus,
Verily, verily, I say unto thee,
Except a man be born again,
he cannot see the kingdom of God.
..
How can these things be?
.
If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not,
how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
=
Jesus answered and said unto him,
Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
Joe;
doesn't the Masters of the RCC know these things
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JoeT
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There are no 'buts', that is a reserved term for others; I would have said THUS as adopted sons of God Mary is our Spiritual Mother saying "Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye."
Mary was a free woman. Hence, the Kingdom of God, the Heavenly Jerusalem has a free woman as Queen of us all. Unfortunately for your argument, Mary is indeed mother of us all.
"Amen, amen I say to thee, that we speak what we know, and we testify what we have seen, and you receive not our testimony." [John 3:11]
JoeT
JoeT
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Wouldn't want to bother you with rules, and truth built on the Holy Spirit's guiding His faithful.
Protestantism is a heresy. Heresy is instigated by demons who wish to attack the Kingdom of God. Consequently, what worries me is the degree unclean spirits are influencing Protestants I have occasion to communicate with; they also claim to know who Christ is yet with a different truth. [Mark 1:23-24]. As intimated there is no need of rules, dogmas and traditions which results in anarchy.
Today the trend is to say the unique differences between the various Christian religions are deemed inconsequential (a tyranny of relativism) in Protestantism. This is “based on incorrect theological perspectives and is characterized by a religious relativism which leads to the belief that ‘one religion is as good as another’ (Pope John Paul II, Redemptoris mission, December 7, 1990). The Church of Jesus Christ cannot participate in a definition of 'one is as good as another’. Primarily because Divine Truth cannot be viewed as an amalgamation of partial little divine truths. Since faith resides in the intellect, this type "just-as-good-as" faith is "one's own invention and milieu" and will not "bring us into the company of believers", i.e. the Catholic Church. This 'one size fits all' perspectives leads to a dead faith. (Cf. Pope Benedict XVI, Principles of Catholic Theology: building stones for a fundamental theology, 1987) Thus, the Church is not a company of like minded believers joined together by some vague vibe of Christ's Divinity and Christ's humanity. Conversely, God's word is immutable, never changing, and incorruptible; thus we find "God is Truth" (Cf. St. Thomas Aquinas). There is only one True Word of Christ that resides in only one teaching authority, the Divine teachings of the Holy Catholic Church. Any other is false. Only a Divine College can infallibly teach the disciplines of an irreformable truth. Only the Divine can receive and bind others to immutable Truth with an authority that obliges discipline within the body faithful. This Divinity resides only in the Catholic Church under one head, the Roman Catholic Pontiff, in One Truth, in One Body.
JoeT
Lastdaysbeliever
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Cut and paste. Sad.
Lastdaysbeliever
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Don't care. It's popery.
I don't need to find you the source of your false statistics. You have failed to answer any of my questions and it is you who needs to prove the claim you are making is true and you haven't.
JoeT
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