Arch Stanton
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your response is too deep ?
"Where was your Church before Luther?"
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bluedog1us
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Because they were REPEATING His words.
dingoling.
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Where does scripture say that?
bluedog1us
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Surely you are just be facetious. You can't be that ignorant. Those people were preaching what Jesus taught them. It is explained in Acts 8.
dingoling.
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Did Jesus tell them that the Gentiles don't need to be circumcised? No.
bluedog1us
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Not only the Gentiles but also the Jews.
Read Gal 2:11-16 where Paul confronted Peter for imposing the law on the Gentiles. The law if circumcision was and is no longer valid for anyone. For they had been saved by FAITH, not by trying to keep the law! Beside, circumcision never was salvific, it was only to signify that a person was of Jewish descent.
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dingoling.
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Jesus didn't tell them.
bluedog1us
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Scripture is the word of the HOLY SPIRIT! And He is GOD! Nuff said!
1Thess521
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in you view:
are the written words from God less authoritative than the spoken words from God?
or are they both at the same level of authority?
IOW are the books of Isaiah, Romans, and Galatians, etc as authoritative as God speaking?
JoeT
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Test it then. Don't forget however, Sacred Scripture was written by the Apostles for the authority of the Church, not for an over-blotted ego. Open the mind and insert the Catholic Church.
JoeT
1Thess521
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True or False?
Jesus equated what the "Whoever" heard the 72 say
with what the 72 heard Jesus say.
"Whoever listens to you (the 72)
listens to me". (Jesus)
IOW: the 72 taught what they had heard from Jesus
JoeT
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You're making it too easy we all know where a dead faith is found in Scripture, without works . To state the obvious, that is not "alone".
JoeT
dingoling.
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I wasn't there so I don't know if it is true or false.
1Thess521
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well let's reason though Scripture
"Whoever listens to you
listens to me".
first replace the pronouns in context:
is this correct?
"Whoever listens to you (the 72)
listens to me". (Jesus)
Next:
is hearing is involved with listening?
Jesus is the word. He and the HS work together.
JoeT
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The problem is neither you nor I are successors of the 72. If you are, then you must be Catholic and a subject of the Pope. No? If not then we don't have to listen to error.
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bluedog1us
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If you are a rc, then you listen to nothing but error!
Stella1000
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And by the grace of the Holy Spirit and through ecumenical dialogue, technically we have come closer to a common language which reflects that, culminating in the 1999 document...
Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification By the Lutheran World Federation and the Catholic Church
No it is the rcc that has not listened and is in error. You prefer their evil leadership and false teachings, as rcs say it is your choice
1Thess521
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???
Can you name the 72?
Why would I want to be a successors of the 72
They are pre-Pentecost
pre filing with the Holy Spirt
Pre Peter's confession
so they don't even know Jesus is the Christ