"Where was your Church before Luther?"

Where does scripture say that?
Jesus didn't tell them.
Galatians 5:2 NASB95 — Behold I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no benefit to you.


Galatians 5:6 NASB95 — For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything, but faith working through love.

Galatians 6:15 NASB95 — For neither is circumcision anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation.
 
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Can you name the 72?
Sure they can be named, follow the link. You'll find many were bishops and martyrs.


Why would I want to be a successors of the 72

They are pre-Pentecost
pre filing with the Holy Spirt
Pre Peter's confession
so they don't even know Jesus is the Christ
You've nothing to worry about, 1Thess521 is not found in the list.

JoeT
 
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Can you name the 72?

Why would I want to be a successors of the 72

They are pre-Pentecost
pre filing with the Holy Spirt
Pre Peter's confession
so they don't even know Jesus is the Christ

Gosh, they're all Catholic. Don't see a Lutheran or Calvin or otherwise Protestant in the entire list. You've got a made-up faith.

https://www.christian-pilgrimage-jo...rces/christian-history/the-seventy-disciples/

Archaicus. Reference to in 1 Corinthians 16:17.

Agabus. Reference to in Acts 11:28; 21:10.

Amplias, appointed by St. Andrew as bishop of Lydda of Odyssopolis (Diospolis) in Judea. He died a martyr. Reference to in Romans 16:8.

Ananias, who baptized St. Paul. He was the bishop of Damascus. He became a martyr by being stoned in Eleutheropolis. Reference to in Acts 9:10-17; 22:12.

Andronicus, bishop of Pannonia. Reference to in Romans 16:7.

Apelles, bishop of Heraclea (in Trachis). Reference to in Romans 16:10.

Apollos. He was a bishop of several places over time: Crete (though this is questioned), Corinth, Smyrna, and Caesarea. Reference to in Acts 18:24; 19:1; 1 Corinthians 1:12; 3:4-22; 4:6; 16:12, Titus 3:13.

Aquila. He was martyred. Reference to in Acts 18:2, 18, 26; Romans 16:3; 1 Corinthians 16:19; 2 Timothy 4:19.

Archippus. Reference to in Colossians 4:17; Philemon 2.

Aristarchus, bishop of Apamea in Syria. He was martyred under Nero. "Aristarchus, whom Paul mentions several times, calling him a 'fellow laborer,' became bishop of Apamea in Syria." Orthodox Study Bible Reference to in Acts 19:29; 20:4; 27:2; Colossians 4:10; Philemon 24.

Aristobulus, bishop of Britain. "…the brother of the apostle Barnabas, preached the gospel in Great Britain and died peacefully there." Orthodox Study Bible Reference to in Romans 16:14.

Artemas, bishop of Lystra in Lycia. Reference to in Titus 3:12.

Aristarchus, bishop of Hyracania in Asia. Reference to in Romans 16:14.

Barnabas. "A Jew of the Tribe of Levi, was born in Cyprus of wealthy parents. He is said to have studied under Gamaliel with Saul of Tarsus, who was to become Paul the apostle. Originally named Joseph, he was called Barnabas (Son of Consolation) by the apostles because he had a rare gift of comforting people’s hearts. He sought out Paul when everyone else was afraid of him, bringing him to the apostles. It was Barnabas whom the apostles first sent to Antioch with Paul. Their long association was broken only when Barnabas was determined to take his cousin Mark, whom Paul did not trust just then, on a missionary journey. The three were later reconciled. Many ancient accounts say Barnabas was the first to preach in Rome and in Milan, but he was martyred in Cyprus, then buried by Mark at the western gate of the city of Salamis." Orthodox Study Bible Reference to in Acts 4:36; 9:27; 11-15; 1 Corinthians 9:6; Galatians 2:1,9,13; Colossians 4:10.

Caesar, bishop of Dyrrhachium (in the Peloponnese of Greece).


Carpus, bishop of Berroia (Verria, in Macedonia. Reference to in 2 Timothy 4:13.

Clement, bishop in Sardis. Reference to in Philippians 4:3.

Cephas, bishop of Iconium, Pamphyllia.

Cleopas, was with the Lord on the road to Emmaus. Reference to in Luke 24:18; John 19:25.

Crescens, later bishop of Galatia. He was martyred under the Emperor Trajan. Reference to in 2 Timothy 4:10.

Crispus, bishop of Aegina, Greece. Reference to in Acts 18:8; 1 Corinthians 1:14.

Epaphras. Reference to in Colossians 1:7; 4:12; Philemon 23.

Epaphroditus, bishop of the Thracian city of Adriaca. Reference to in Philippians 2:25; 4:18.

Epaenetus, bishop of Carthage. Reference to in Romans 16:5.

Erastus. He served as a deacon and steward to the Church of Jerusalem. Later he served in Palestine. Reference to in Acts 19:22; Romans 16:23; 2 Timothy 4:20.

Evodius, first bishop of Antioch after St.Peter. He wrote several compositions. At the age of sixty-six, under the Emperor Nero, he was martyred. Reference to in Philippians 4:2.

Fortunatus. Reference to in 1 Corinthians 16:17.

Gaius, bishop of Ephesus. Reference to in Acts 19:29; 20:4; Romans 16:23; 1 Corinthians 1:14; 3 John 1.

Hermas, bishop in Philipopoulis. He wrote The Shepherd of Hermas. He died a martyr. Reference to in Romans 16:14.

Hermes, bishop of Dalmatia. Reference to in Romans 16:14.

Herodion, a relative of the Apostle Paul, bishop of Neoparthia. He was beheaded in Rome. Reference to in Romans 16:11.

James, brother of the Lord (also called "the Less" or "the Just"). James was the Patriarch of Jerusalem. Reference to in Matthew 13:55; Mark 6:3; Acts 12:17; 15:13; Epistle of James.

Jason, bishop of Tarsus. Traveling with Sosipater to Corfu, the two were able, after an attempt made at their lives by the king of Corfu, to convert his majesty. Reference to in Acts 17:5-9.

Justus, brother to the Lord and bishop of Eleutheropolis. He was the half-brother of Christ (as was Sts. James, Jude, and Simon) through Joseph's previous marriage to Salome. He died a martyr. Reference to in Acts 1:23; 18:7; Colossians 4:11.

Linus, bishop of Rome. Reference to in 2 Timothy 4:21.

Lucius, bishop of Laodicea. Reference to in Acts 13:1; Romans 16:21.

Luke the Evangelist. He is the author of the Gospel of Luke, and the founder of Iconography (Orthodox Icon-writing). Reference to in Colossians 4:14; 2 Timothy 4:11; Philemon 24.

Mark the Evangelist (called John). He wrote the Gospel of Mark. He also founded the Church of Alexandria, serving as its first bishop. Reference to in Acts 12:12, 25; 15:37-39; Colossians 4:10; 2 Timothy 4:11; Philemon 24; 1 Peter 5:13.

Narcissus, ordained by the Apostle Philip as bishop of Athens, Greece. Reference to in Romans 16:11.

Nicanor, one of the original seven deacons. He was martyred on the same day as the Promartyr Stephen. Reference to in Acts 6:5.

Olympas, beheaded with St. Peter under Nero. Reference to in Romans 16:15.

Onesimus. He preached the Gospel in many cities. He was made bishop of Ephesus, and later bishop of Byzantium (Constantinople). He was martyred under the Emperor Trajan. Reference to in Colossians 4:9; Philemon 10.

Onesiphorus, bishop of Colophon (Asia Minor), and later of Corinth. He died a martyr in Parium. Reference to in 2 Timothy 1:16; 4:19.

Parmenas, one of the original seven deacons. He preached throughout Asia Minor, and later settled in Macedonia. He was a bishop of Soli. He died a martyr in Macedonia. Reference to in Acts 6:5.

Patrobus, bishop of Neapolis (Naples). Reference to in Romans 16:14.

Philemon. He, with his wife Apphia, and the apostle Archippus, were martyred by pagans during a pagan feast. Reference to in Philemon 1.

Philip the Deacon (one of the original seven). He was born in Palestine, and later preached throughout its adjoining lands. In Acts, he converts a eunuch (an official) of Candace, queen of Ethiopia, to Christ. He was later made bishop by the apostles at Jerusalem, who also sent him to Asia Minor. Reference to in Acts 6; 8; 21:8.

Philologus, ordained bishop of Sinope (near the Black sea) by the Apostle Andrew. Reference to in Romans 16:15.

Phlegon, bishop of Marathon, in Thrace. Reference to in Romans 16:14.

Prochorus, one of the original seven deacons. He was made bishop of Nicomedia by St. Peter. He was later banished with the Apostle John (John the Theologian) to the Island of Patmos. In Antioch, he died a martyr. Reference to in Acts 6:5.

Pudens. He was an esteemed member of the Roman Senate, then received Sts. Peter and Paul into his home, and was converted to Christ by them. He was martyred under Nero. Reference to in Acts 6:5.

Quadratus, bishop of Athens. He was author of the Apologia. He was stoned, but survived. Soon-after, he died of starvation in prison.

Quartus, bishop of Beirut. Reference to in Romans 16:23.


Rufus, bishop of Thebes, Greece. Reference to in Mark 15:21; Romans 16:13.

Silas, bishop of Corinth. Reference to in Acts 15:22-40; 16:19-40; 17:4-15; 18:5; 2 Corinthians 1:19; 1 Thessalonians 1:1; 2 Thessalonians 1:1; 1 Peter 5:12.

Simeon, son of Cleopas. “Simeon, son of Cleopas (who was the brother of Joseph, the betrothed of the Virgin Mary), succeeded James as bishop of Jerusalem.” Orthodox Study Bible. He was martyred through torture and crucifixion, at the age of one-hundred. Reference to in Matthew 13:55; Mark 6:3.

Sosipater, ordained bishop of Iconium by the Apostle Paul, his relative. With St. Jason, he converted the king of Corfu. Reference to in Romans 16:21.

Sosthenes. "…became bishop of Caesarea.” Orthodox Study Bible Reference to in 1 Corinthians 1:1.

Stachys, ordained by St. Andrew to be bishop of Byzantium. Reference to in Romans 16:9.



limited to 10,000 characters, I'll do the rest of the Catholic disciples later.

JoeT
 
Gosh, they're all Catholic. Don't see a Lutheran or Calvin or otherwise Protestant in the entire list. You've got a made-up faith.
from 30-ish AD?
why would there be a Lutheran ?

you're absolutely brilliant!
and there aren't any coins that say 15 BC!!!

and how can they be Catholic (or even Christian )
They don't even know Jesus is the Christ:

Thanks for admitting you can be Catholic and not know Jesus is the Christ!!

any other JoeT gems you want to share?
 
Gosh, they're all Catholic. Don't see a Lutheran or Calvin or otherwise Protestant in the entire list. You've got a made-up faith.

https://www.christian-pilgrimage-jo...rces/christian-history/the-seventy-disciples/

Archaicus. Reference to in 1 Corinthians 16:17.

Agabus. Reference to in Acts 11:28; 21:10.

Amplias, appointed by St. Andrew as bishop of Lydda of Odyssopolis (Diospolis) in Judea. He died a martyr. Reference to in Romans 16:8.

Ananias, who baptized St. Paul. He was the bishop of Damascus. He became a martyr by being stoned in Eleutheropolis. Reference to in Acts 9:10-17; 22:12.

Andronicus, bishop of Pannonia. Reference to in Romans 16:7.

Apelles, bishop of Heraclea (in Trachis). Reference to in Romans 16:10.

Apollos. He was a bishop of several places over time: Crete (though this is questioned), Corinth, Smyrna, and Caesarea. Reference to in Acts 18:24; 19:1; 1 Corinthians 1:12; 3:4-22; 4:6; 16:12, Titus 3:13.

Aquila. He was martyred. Reference to in Acts 18:2, 18, 26; Romans 16:3; 1 Corinthians 16:19; 2 Timothy 4:19.

Archippus. Reference to in Colossians 4:17; Philemon 2.

Aristarchus, bishop of Apamea in Syria. He was martyred under Nero. "Aristarchus, whom Paul mentions several times, calling him a 'fellow laborer,' became bishop of Apamea in Syria." Orthodox Study Bible Reference to in Acts 19:29; 20:4; 27:2; Colossians 4:10; Philemon 24.

Aristobulus, bishop of Britain. "…the brother of the apostle Barnabas, preached the gospel in Great Britain and died peacefully there." Orthodox Study Bible Reference to in Romans 16:14.

Artemas, bishop of Lystra in Lycia. Reference to in Titus 3:12.

Aristarchus, bishop of Hyracania in Asia. Reference to in Romans 16:14.

Barnabas. "A Jew of the Tribe of Levi, was born in Cyprus of wealthy parents. He is said to have studied under Gamaliel with Saul of Tarsus, who was to become Paul the apostle. Originally named Joseph, he was called Barnabas (Son of Consolation) by the apostles because he had a rare gift of comforting people’s hearts. He sought out Paul when everyone else was afraid of him, bringing him to the apostles. It was Barnabas whom the apostles first sent to Antioch with Paul. Their long association was broken only when Barnabas was determined to take his cousin Mark, whom Paul did not trust just then, on a missionary journey. The three were later reconciled. Many ancient accounts say Barnabas was the first to preach in Rome and in Milan, but he was martyred in Cyprus, then buried by Mark at the western gate of the city of Salamis." Orthodox Study Bible Reference to in Acts 4:36; 9:27; 11-15; 1 Corinthians 9:6; Galatians 2:1,9,13; Colossians 4:10.

Caesar, bishop of Dyrrhachium (in the Peloponnese of Greece).


Carpus, bishop of Berroia (Verria, in Macedonia. Reference to in 2 Timothy 4:13.

Clement, bishop in Sardis. Reference to in Philippians 4:3.

Cephas, bishop of Iconium, Pamphyllia.

Cleopas, was with the Lord on the road to Emmaus. Reference to in Luke 24:18; John 19:25.

Crescens, later bishop of Galatia. He was martyred under the Emperor Trajan. Reference to in 2 Timothy 4:10.

Crispus, bishop of Aegina, Greece. Reference to in Acts 18:8; 1 Corinthians 1:14.

Epaphras. Reference to in Colossians 1:7; 4:12; Philemon 23.

Epaphroditus, bishop of the Thracian city of Adriaca. Reference to in Philippians 2:25; 4:18.

Epaenetus, bishop of Carthage. Reference to in Romans 16:5.

Erastus. He served as a deacon and steward to the Church of Jerusalem. Later he served in Palestine. Reference to in Acts 19:22; Romans 16:23; 2 Timothy 4:20.

Evodius, first bishop of Antioch after St.Peter. He wrote several compositions. At the age of sixty-six, under the Emperor Nero, he was martyred. Reference to in Philippians 4:2.

Fortunatus. Reference to in 1 Corinthians 16:17.

Gaius, bishop of Ephesus. Reference to in Acts 19:29; 20:4; Romans 16:23; 1 Corinthians 1:14; 3 John 1.

Hermas, bishop in Philipopoulis. He wrote The Shepherd of Hermas. He died a martyr. Reference to in Romans 16:14.

Hermes, bishop of Dalmatia. Reference to in Romans 16:14.

Herodion, a relative of the Apostle Paul, bishop of Neoparthia. He was beheaded in Rome. Reference to in Romans 16:11.

James, brother of the Lord (also called "the Less" or "the Just"). James was the Patriarch of Jerusalem. Reference to in Matthew 13:55; Mark 6:3; Acts 12:17; 15:13; Epistle of James.

Jason, bishop of Tarsus. Traveling with Sosipater to Corfu, the two were able, after an attempt made at their lives by the king of Corfu, to convert his majesty. Reference to in Acts 17:5-9.

Justus, brother to the Lord and bishop of Eleutheropolis. He was the half-brother of Christ (as was Sts. James, Jude, and Simon) through Joseph's previous marriage to Salome. He died a martyr. Reference to in Acts 1:23; 18:7; Colossians 4:11.

Linus, bishop of Rome. Reference to in 2 Timothy 4:21.

Lucius, bishop of Laodicea. Reference to in Acts 13:1; Romans 16:21.

Luke the Evangelist. He is the author of the Gospel of Luke, and the founder of Iconography (Orthodox Icon-writing). Reference to in Colossians 4:14; 2 Timothy 4:11; Philemon 24.

Mark the Evangelist (called John). He wrote the Gospel of Mark. He also founded the Church of Alexandria, serving as its first bishop. Reference to in Acts 12:12, 25; 15:37-39; Colossians 4:10; 2 Timothy 4:11; Philemon 24; 1 Peter 5:13.

Narcissus, ordained by the Apostle Philip as bishop of Athens, Greece. Reference to in Romans 16:11.

Nicanor, one of the original seven deacons. He was martyred on the same day as the Promartyr Stephen. Reference to in Acts 6:5.

Olympas, beheaded with St. Peter under Nero. Reference to in Romans 16:15.

Onesimus. He preached the Gospel in many cities. He was made bishop of Ephesus, and later bishop of Byzantium (Constantinople). He was martyred under the Emperor Trajan. Reference to in Colossians 4:9; Philemon 10.

Onesiphorus, bishop of Colophon (Asia Minor), and later of Corinth. He died a martyr in Parium. Reference to in 2 Timothy 1:16; 4:19.

Parmenas, one of the original seven deacons. He preached throughout Asia Minor, and later settled in Macedonia. He was a bishop of Soli. He died a martyr in Macedonia. Reference to in Acts 6:5.

Patrobus, bishop of Neapolis (Naples). Reference to in Romans 16:14.

Philemon. He, with his wife Apphia, and the apostle Archippus, were martyred by pagans during a pagan feast. Reference to in Philemon 1.

Philip the Deacon (one of the original seven). He was born in Palestine, and later preached throughout its adjoining lands. In Acts, he converts a eunuch (an official) of Candace, queen of Ethiopia, to Christ. He was later made bishop by the apostles at Jerusalem, who also sent him to Asia Minor. Reference to in Acts 6; 8; 21:8.

Philologus, ordained bishop of Sinope (near the Black sea) by the Apostle Andrew. Reference to in Romans 16:15.

Phlegon, bishop of Marathon, in Thrace. Reference to in Romans 16:14.

Prochorus, one of the original seven deacons. He was made bishop of Nicomedia by St. Peter. He was later banished with the Apostle John (John the Theologian) to the Island of Patmos. In Antioch, he died a martyr. Reference to in Acts 6:5.

Pudens. He was an esteemed member of the Roman Senate, then received Sts. Peter and Paul into his home, and was converted to Christ by them. He was martyred under Nero. Reference to in Acts 6:5.

Quadratus, bishop of Athens. He was author of the Apologia. He was stoned, but survived. Soon-after, he died of starvation in prison.

Quartus, bishop of Beirut. Reference to in Romans 16:23.


Rufus, bishop of Thebes, Greece. Reference to in Mark 15:21; Romans 16:13.

Silas, bishop of Corinth. Reference to in Acts 15:22-40; 16:19-40; 17:4-15; 18:5; 2 Corinthians 1:19; 1 Thessalonians 1:1; 2 Thessalonians 1:1; 1 Peter 5:12.

Simeon, son of Cleopas. “Simeon, son of Cleopas (who was the brother of Joseph, the betrothed of the Virgin Mary), succeeded James as bishop of Jerusalem.” Orthodox Study Bible. He was martyred through torture and crucifixion, at the age of one-hundred. Reference to in Matthew 13:55; Mark 6:3.

Sosipater, ordained bishop of Iconium by the Apostle Paul, his relative. With St. Jason, he converted the king of Corfu. Reference to in Romans 16:21.

Sosthenes. "…became bishop of Caesarea.” Orthodox Study Bible Reference to in 1 Corinthians 1:1.

Stachys, ordained by St. Andrew to be bishop of Byzantium. Reference to in Romans 16:9.



limited to 10,000 characters, I'll do the rest of the Catholic disciples later.

JoeT
More rc hogwash the apostles were not and never were wolves in sheep's clothing, they were never rcin fact, no rcs meets their requirements for being leaders. I am not going through you list but the ecfs were appalled by sexually immorality and would expel most of your leaders, so not rcs either.

Just because your false institution claims they are rcs, does not make it the truth, it is not to lie.

Where r you getting that cut and paste from?
 
More rc hogwash the apostles were not and never were wolves in sheep's clothing, they were never rcin fact, no rcs meets their requirements for being leaders. I am not going through you list but the ecfs were appalled by sexually immorality and would expel most of your leaders, so not rcs either.

Just because your false institution claims they are rcs, does not make it the truth, it is not to lie.

Where r you getting that cut and paste from?
Yeah but they had a "desire" to be rcs BEFORE there was even a rcc, or ANY Christian church. And because their names are in scripture they have to be the 72 sent, doncha know. Any lie will do for the good Ole Rcc. That's how I know my donkey can talk, because Balaam's donkey could talk. Therefore ALL donkeys can talk!
 
Yeah but they had a "desire" to be rcs BEFORE there was even a rcc, or ANY Christian church. And because their names are in scripture they have to be the 72 sent, doncha know. Any lie will do for the good Ole Rcc. That's how I know my donkey can talk, because Balaam's donkey could talk. Therefore ALL donkeys can talk!
Sounds like Mormons baptising the dead and saying they are Mormons. Must make it so. It is sad.
 
from 30-ish AD?
why would there be a Lutheran ?

you're absolutely brilliant!
and there aren't any coins that say 15 BC!!!

and how can they be Catholic (or even Christian )
They don't even know Jesus is the Christ:

Thanks for admitting you can be Catholic and not know Jesus is the Christ!!

any other JoeT gems you want to share?
How can they be Catholic you ask. It should be obvious, there was no one in Protest until 1520 years later. Seems pretty simple.

Since you asked, I want to share the rest of the list of 72 Catholics.

Stephen the Promartyr and Archdeacon (one of the original seven deacons). Reference to in Acts 6:5-7:60; 8:2 (Acts 6:5-8:2); 11:19; 22:20.

Tertius, bishop of Iconium (after Sosipater). He wrote down St. Paul's letter to the Romans. He died a martyr. Reference to in Romans 16:22.

Thaddaeus. He was baptized by John the Baptist (John the Forerunner). He later preached, and founded a Church in Beirut. Reference to in Matthew 10:3; Mark 3:18.

Timon, one of the original seven deacons, and later bishop of Bostra (in Arabia). He was thrown into a furnace, but emerged unharmed. Reference to in Acts 6:5.

Timothy. He accompanied St. Paul often, and both 1 and 2 Timothy are addressed to him. He was ordained bishop of Ephesus by St. Paul. He died a martyr. Reference to in Acts 16:1; 17:14, 15; 18:5; 19:22; 20:4; Romans 16:21; 1 and 2 Timothy.

Titus. "Among the more prominent of the seventy was the apostle Titus, whom Paul called his brother and his son. Born in Crete, Titus was educated in Greek philosophy, but after reading the prophet Isaiah he began to doubt the value of all he had been taught. Hearing the news of the coming of Jesus Christ, he joined some others from Crete who were going to Jerusalem to see for themselves. After hearing Jesus speak and seeing His works, the young Titus joined those who followed Him. Baptized by the apostle Paul, he worked with and served the great apostle of the gentiles, traveling with him until Paul sent him to Crete, making him bishop of that city. It is said that Titus was in Rome at the time of the beheading of St. Paul and that he buried the body of his spiritual father before returning home. Back in Crete, he converted and baptized many people, governing the Church on that island until he entered into rest at the age of ninety-four." Orthodox Study Bible Reference to in 2 Corinthians 2:13; 7:6-14; 8:6-23; 12:18; Galatians 2:1-3; Epistle to Titus.

Trophimus, disciple of St. Paul, and martyred under Nero. Reference to in Acts 20:4; 21:29; 2 Timothy 4:20.

Tychicus. “…succeeded him (Sosthenes, as bishop) in that city (of Caesarea)." Orthodox Study Bible. He delivered St. Paul's letter to the Ephesians and Colossians. Reference to in Acts 20:4; Ephesians 6:21; Colossians 4:7; 2 Timothy 4:12; Titus 3:12.

Urbanus, ordained by the Apostle Andrew as bishop of Macedonia. He died a martyr. Reference to in Romans 16:9.

Zenas (called 'the lawyer'), bishop of Diospolis (Lydda), in Palestine. Reference to in Titus 3:13.

Additional Names:

Alphaeus, father of the apostle James and Matthew.

Apphia, wife to the Apostle Philemon. The Church had gathered in her home for liturgy, while pagans who had been celebrating a pagan feast broke in and raided her home. They took Apphia, Philemon, and Archippus to be killed. She suffered martyrdom.

Junia, accompanied Andronicus in preaching all over Pannonia. She was a relative to the Apostle Paul, and a martyr.

Silvan, bishop of Thessaloniki, Greece. Reference to in 1 Peter 5:12; 2 Corinthians 1:19.

Zacchaeus, appointed by St.Peter to be bishop of Caesarea. Reference to in Luke 19:1-10.



JoeT
 
How can they be Catholic you ask. It should be obvious, there was no one in Protest until 1520 years later. Seems pretty simple.

Since you asked, I want to share the rest of the list of 72 Catholics.

Stephen the Promartyr and Archdeacon (one of the original seven deacons). Reference to in Acts 6:5-7:60; 8:2 (Acts 6:5-8:2); 11:19; 22:20.

Tertius, bishop of Iconium (after Sosipater). He wrote down St. Paul's letter to the Romans. He died a martyr. Reference to in Romans 16:22.

Thaddaeus. He was baptized by John the Baptist (John the Forerunner). He later preached, and founded a Church in Beirut. Reference to in Matthew 10:3; Mark 3:18.

Timon, one of the original seven deacons, and later bishop of Bostra (in Arabia). He was thrown into a furnace, but emerged unharmed. Reference to in Acts 6:5.

Timothy. He accompanied St. Paul often, and both 1 and 2 Timothy are addressed to him. He was ordained bishop of Ephesus by St. Paul. He died a martyr. Reference to in Acts 16:1; 17:14, 15; 18:5; 19:22; 20:4; Romans 16:21; 1 and 2 Timothy.

Titus. "Among the more prominent of the seventy was the apostle Titus, whom Paul called his brother and his son. Born in Crete, Titus was educated in Greek philosophy, but after reading the prophet Isaiah he began to doubt the value of all he had been taught. Hearing the news of the coming of Jesus Christ, he joined some others from Crete who were going to Jerusalem to see for themselves. After hearing Jesus speak and seeing His works, the young Titus joined those who followed Him. Baptized by the apostle Paul, he worked with and served the great apostle of the gentiles, traveling with him until Paul sent him to Crete, making him bishop of that city. It is said that Titus was in Rome at the time of the beheading of St. Paul and that he buried the body of his spiritual father before returning home. Back in Crete, he converted and baptized many people, governing the Church on that island until he entered into rest at the age of ninety-four." Orthodox Study Bible Reference to in 2 Corinthians 2:13; 7:6-14; 8:6-23; 12:18; Galatians 2:1-3; Epistle to Titus.

Trophimus, disciple of St. Paul, and martyred under Nero. Reference to in Acts 20:4; 21:29; 2 Timothy 4:20.

Tychicus. “…succeeded him (Sosthenes, as bishop) in that city (of Caesarea)." Orthodox Study Bible. He delivered St. Paul's letter to the Ephesians and Colossians. Reference to in Acts 20:4; Ephesians 6:21; Colossians 4:7; 2 Timothy 4:12; Titus 3:12.

Urbanus, ordained by the Apostle Andrew as bishop of Macedonia. He died a martyr. Reference to in Romans 16:9.

Zenas (called 'the lawyer'), bishop of Diospolis (Lydda), in Palestine. Reference to in Titus 3:13.

Additional Names:

Alphaeus, father of the apostle James and Matthew.

Apphia, wife to the Apostle Philemon. The Church had gathered in her home for liturgy, while pagans who had been celebrating a pagan feast broke in and raided her home. They took Apphia, Philemon, and Archippus to be killed. She suffered martyrdom.

Junia, accompanied Andronicus in preaching all over Pannonia. She was a relative to the Apostle Paul, and a martyr.

Silvan, bishop of Thessaloniki, Greece. Reference to in 1 Peter 5:12; 2 Corinthians 1:19.

Zacchaeus, appointed by St.Peter to be bishop of Caesarea. Reference to in Luke 19:1-10.



JoeT
You institution was the first protest, it decided to follow Rome and not Jesus. Hmm where is this list coming from. The early believers would vomit your institution out.
 
How can they be Catholic you ask. It should be obvious, there was no one in Protest until 1520 years later. Seems pretty simple.

Since you asked, I want to share the rest of the list of 72 Catholics.

Stephen the Promartyr and Archdeacon (one of the original seven deacons). Reference to in Acts 6:5-7:60; 8:2 (Acts 6:5-8:2); 11:19; 22:20.

Tertius, bishop of Iconium (after Sosipater). He wrote down St. Paul's letter to the Romans. He died a martyr. Reference to in Romans 16:22.

Thaddaeus. He was baptized by John the Baptist (John the Forerunner). He later preached, and founded a Church in Beirut. Reference to in Matthew 10:3; Mark 3:18.

Timon, one of the original seven deacons, and later bishop of Bostra (in Arabia). He was thrown into a furnace, but emerged unharmed. Reference to in Acts 6:5.

Timothy. He accompanied St. Paul often, and both 1 and 2 Timothy are addressed to him. He was ordained bishop of Ephesus by St. Paul. He died a martyr. Reference to in Acts 16:1; 17:14, 15; 18:5; 19:22; 20:4; Romans 16:21; 1 and 2 Timothy.

Titus. "Among the more prominent of the seventy was the apostle Titus, whom Paul called his brother and his son. Born in Crete, Titus was educated in Greek philosophy, but after reading the prophet Isaiah he began to doubt the value of all he had been taught. Hearing the news of the coming of Jesus Christ, he joined some others from Crete who were going to Jerusalem to see for themselves. After hearing Jesus speak and seeing His works, the young Titus joined those who followed Him. Baptized by the apostle Paul, he worked with and served the great apostle of the gentiles, traveling with him until Paul sent him to Crete, making him bishop of that city. It is said that Titus was in Rome at the time of the beheading of St. Paul and that he buried the body of his spiritual father before returning home. Back in Crete, he converted and baptized many people, governing the Church on that island until he entered into rest at the age of ninety-four." Orthodox Study Bible Reference to in 2 Corinthians 2:13; 7:6-14; 8:6-23; 12:18; Galatians 2:1-3; Epistle to Titus.

Trophimus, disciple of St. Paul, and martyred under Nero. Reference to in Acts 20:4; 21:29; 2 Timothy 4:20.

Tychicus. “…succeeded him (Sosthenes, as bishop) in that city (of Caesarea)." Orthodox Study Bible. He delivered St. Paul's letter to the Ephesians and Colossians. Reference to in Acts 20:4; Ephesians 6:21; Colossians 4:7; 2 Timothy 4:12; Titus 3:12.

Urbanus, ordained by the Apostle Andrew as bishop of Macedonia. He died a martyr. Reference to in Romans 16:9.

Zenas (called 'the lawyer'), bishop of Diospolis (Lydda), in Palestine. Reference to in Titus 3:13.

Additional Names:

Alphaeus, father of the apostle James and Matthew.

Apphia, wife to the Apostle Philemon. The Church had gathered in her home for liturgy, while pagans who had been celebrating a pagan feast broke in and raided her home. They took Apphia, Philemon, and Archippus to be killed. She suffered martyrdom.

Junia, accompanied Andronicus in preaching all over Pannonia. She was a relative to the Apostle Paul, and a martyr.

Silvan, bishop of Thessaloniki, Greece. Reference to in 1 Peter 5:12; 2 Corinthians 1:19.

Zacchaeus, appointed by St.Peter to be bishop of Caesarea. Reference to in Luke 19:1-10.



JoeT
I'll just pick the last one on the list to save time. WHERE is it mentioned in the scripture reference (Luke 19) does it even remotely mention that Peter appointed Ole Zack to ANYTHING? And that goes for all the rest of them too. It simply mentions their names. But then, that's the rcc for ya!
 
You institution was the first protest, it decided to follow Rome and not Jesus. Hmm where is this list coming from. The early believers would vomit your institution out.
Actually, Luther and his followers used the name, Protestants, to identify as a protest against the Church at the Diet of Speyer in 1529.

JoeT
 
and I can have a 6th Grade Sunday School class search the NT an find a list of the "good-guys";
which would pretty much match your list.
You have ZERO proof that your list were the 70 from Luke 10
Most of them are mentioned in your Book. Now you don't believe your Book?

JoeT
 
Most of them are mentioned in your Book. Now you don't believe your Book?

JoeT
Just because they are mentioned in the bible doesn't mean they were of the 70. NOTHING says they were. The Bible doesn't mention who those 70 were. There is no importance placed on who they were. So who they were would, at best, be a wild guess.
 
Most of them are mentioned in your Book. Now you don't believe your Book?

JoeT
I already agreed they are in Scripture
As I stated
"and I can have a 6th Grade Sunday School class search the NT an find a list of the "good-guys";
which would pretty much match your list."

THE POINT IS
As I stated
"You have ZERO proof that your list were the 70 from Luke 10""
 
So a few heretics proves Protestantism existed before Luther?
You need to keep reading.
Not heretics but followers of Jesus and not man. You need to keep reading. Forcing conversions is not from God and does not mean that people really changed their deep held beliefs. But it is an example that the RCC followed its founders the Roman Emperor.
 
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