Where will you spend eternity?

Therefore Jesus is the son of YHWH, but not YHWH. You've been debunked. Lord is not equal to LORD.

John 17
3Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent.
In the Old Testament, the name of The LORD is written as 4 Hebrews letters. This is called the Tetragrammaton. This occurs almost 7000 times in the OT. Each letter of the Hebrew alphabet has a meaning. The meaning of the letters of the Tetragrammaton is “hand behold, nail behold”. In the OT, many times God describes using His hand or hands when creating or making all things. In Ps 22:16, God says they “pierced my hands and my feet”. In Zech 12:0, God said that “they shall look upon me whom they have pierced”. In Zech 13:6, they ask “what are these wounds in thine hands?” So the Tetragrammaton, which means “hand behold, nail behold” is a reference to Jesus Christ, God the Creator, with His hands nailed to the cross. And this occurs 6828 times in the OT, each a declaration of Jesus Christ as God the Creator and Saviour, the first and the last.
 
As Christ said:

42 Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The son of David.
43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,
44 The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?
45 If David then call him Lord, how is he his son? - Matthew 22:42-44

So Jesus is the Lord, that is God.

Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. - 1 Cor 12:3
I am Lord over my dog in whom I love very much. I am his God, I feed him, I give hem drink, I take care of him when he is sick, I baptize him in water once a week when he gets a little dirty and cleans the dirt from him.

Yes I am lord over him and his provider, but I did not create him. And I suspect that you will not understand that message spiritually at all. God created the dog, He created me to be that servant to all who will recieve me.

John 12:49. For I did not speak from Myself, but the Father Himself, having sent Me, gave Me acommandment, what I should say and what I should speak.
 
In the Old Testament, the name of The LORD is written as 4 Hebrews letters. This is called the Tetragrammaton. This occurs almost 7000 times in the OT. Each letter of the Hebrew alphabet has a meaning. The meaning of the letters of the Tetragrammaton is “hand behold, nail behold”. In the OT, many times God describes using His hand or hands when creating or making all things. In Ps 22:16, God says they “pierced my hands and my feet”. In Zech 12:0, God said that “they shall look upon me whom they have pierced”. In Zech 13:6, they ask “what are these wounds in thine hands?” So the Tetragrammaton, which means “hand behold, nail behold” is a reference to Jesus Christ, God the Creator, with His hands nailed to the cross. And this occurs 6828 times in the OT, each a declaration of Jesus Christ as God the Creator and Saviour, the first and the last.

YHWH is a transliteration of God's personal name.

Exodus 3
15God also told Moses, “Say to the Israelites, ‘The LORD,[YHWH] the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob—has sent me to you.’ This is My name forever, and this is how I am to be remembered in every generation.

That's literally God's name forever and how He is to be remembered. So why do you keep calling Him Jesus? I hope He has a patient attitude about that because honestly it looks like God can get pretty angry sometimes.
 
YHWH is a transliteration of God's personal name.

Exodus 3
15God also told Moses, “Say to the Israelites, ‘The LORD,[YHWH] the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob—has sent me to you.’ This is My name forever, and this is how I am to be remembered in every generation.

That's literally God's name forever and how He is to be remembered. So why do you keep calling Him Jesus? I hope He has a patient attitude about that because honestly it looks like God can get pretty angry sometimes.
You do know that that actually is declaring the triune God Almighty. First the single phrase. Than the triple phrase. The doctrine that Christ is God is the most declared doctrine in the word of God.
 
You do know that that actually is declaring the triune God Almighty. First the single phrase. Than the triple phrase. The doctrine that Christ is God is the most declared doctrine in the word of God.

Do you believe the Son is the Father according to Isaiah 9:6?
 
So the Son is not the Father. There’s your first clue Isaiah 9:6 is poorly translated. He isn’t the Mighty God either then.
Again you err not knowing the scripture.

8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake. - John 14:8-11

And of course,

I and my Father are one. - John 10:30

But they are also three divine persons.

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. - 1 John 5:7
 
Jesus Christ isn't God.

You are incorrect.

John 1:1 ... and the Word was God. [...] 14 And the Word became flesh [...]
John 8:58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
John 20:28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!
Acts 20:28 [...] to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood.
Rom. 9:5 [...] is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.
Phil. 2:5 [...] Christ Jesus, 6 who, though he was in the form of God, [...]
Col. 2:9 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,
Titus 2:13
[...] the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
Heb. 1:8 But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, [...]
2Pet. 1:1 [...] by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

No offense, but only a very unwise person would base their theology on the words of Doubting Thomas.

Why?
Oh, that's right... You like to deny Scripture whenever it says something you don't like.

Furthermore, he didn't say "You are God."

Oh yes, here we come with the "it must be these exact words" argument.
Nobody's impressed with your irrational standard.

He basically said, "[You are] my Lord and my God".

Jesus was clear the only true God is the Father (John 17:3)

That doesn't mean that Jesus isn't God.
Once again (something you keep ignoring), "the Father is the only God" is NOT the same thing as "ONLY the Father is God".

therefore Thomas was calling out to the Father or perhaps he was in shock and awe at seeing a hole in Jesus' side and hands. Sometimes even today people say "Oh my God" when they are surprised. Thomas may have been doing that.

And here we come with all the lame excuses for rejecting Scripture.

John 20:28 Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” 29 Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed.”

Thomas was speaking to Jesus, not to the Father. And he wasn't speaking to Jesus "and" the Father, as it says, "said to HIM (singular)", not "said to "them".

As for claiming he was saying "my God" as an interjection, Jesus would surely have rebuked hiim. But He didn't, He praised him instead.

Matt 16
15“But what about you?” Jesus asked. “Who do you say I am?”
16Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
17Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah! For this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by My Father in heaven.

And here you go, RUNNING AWAY from the passages which prove Jesus is God.

So now that we know Jesus is the Son of the living God and Messiah then we know he isn't God.

Sorry, but that doesn't follow.
That's nothing but worthless rationalization by you designed to deny explicit Scripture.
 
Again you err not knowing the scripture.

8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake. - John 14:8-11

And of course,

I and my Father are one. - John 10:30

But they are also three divine persons.

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. - 1 John 5:7

You’re in great error. The oneness Jesus had with God the disciples had. You have nothing that proves Jesus is God but just an avalanche of scripture, that you reject, to the contrary.

John 17
21that all of them may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You. May they also be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.
 
They are both God but they are not the same person.
You need to understand the triune God, aka, the Trinity.
God is not a person! When are you going to learn that God is a Spirit and if you worship Him at all it has to be in the Spirit He is.

John 4:24 KJV: God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Why do you not believe that what the Bible actually says that God who is a Spirit came to Jesus and spend up who He is in Matt 3:16?

Never mind, I know your thoughts and the reason why.
 
God is not a person! When are you going to learn that God is a Spirit and if you worship Him at all it has to be in the Spirit He is.

John 4:24 KJV: God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Why do you not believe that what the Bible actually says? Never mind, I know already why.
we agree that God is a Spirit. But you seem to believe in a few lies. So how could you worship Him?
 
So the Son is not the Father. There’s your first clue Isaiah 9:6 is poorly translated. He isn’t the Mighty God either then.

Nobody is saying that "the Son is the Father", so you're simply wasting our time arguing a worthless straw-man.
As for "poorly translated", it seems you have all kinds of convenient excuses for rejecting Scripture when you don't like what it teaches. So not only are you claiming to be a Greek scholar, now you're claiming to be a Hebrew scholar as well, and you think you know better than all the Hebrew scholars behind all the translations of the Old Testament?! Oh, the ego!

Let me explain to you why Isa. 9:6 IS in fact translated correctly, and why you aren't correctly understanding it:

Isa. 9:6 For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us;
And the government will rest on His shoulders;
And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.

The reference to "Eternal Father" is not referring to "God the Father".
In this context, "Father" simply means "Creator":

Isa. 64:8 But now, O LORD, You are our Father,
We are the clay, and
You our potter;
And all of us are
the work of Your hand.

Mal. 2:10 Have we not all one Father?
Has not one God
created us?
Why then are we faithless to one another,
profaning the covenant of our fathers?


Americans recognize the same concept when they call George Washington "the Father of the country".
 
we agree that God is a Spirit. But you seem to believe in a few lies.
I agree with you, Same lies Jesus was accused of for the very same reason as you accuse us of.

So how could you worship Him?
By the same mind, Spirit, be in me who was in Christ Jesus. You should consider the same in yourself. Heck even Jesus was smart enough to repent and recieve Gods same Spirit of mind. See Matt 3:16 when that happened in that man.

He would do the same in you but He cant can He?
 
I agree with you, Same lies Jesus was accused of for the very same reason as you accuse us of.


By the same mind, Spirit, be in me who was in Christ Jesus. You should consider the same in yourself. Heck even Jesus was smart enough to repent and recieve Gods same Spirit of mind. See Matt 3:16 when that happened in that man.

He would do the same in you but He cant can He?
Matthew 3:16 is not the gospel of salvation. 1 Cor 15:1-4 is.
Matthew 3:16 is about the water baptism of Christ.

Is water baptism how you were saved?
 
Nobody is saying that "the Son is the Father", so you're simply wasting our time arguing a worthless straw-man.
As for "poorly translated", it seems you have all kinds of convenient excuses for rejecting Scripture when you don't like what it teaches. So not only are you claiming to be a Greek scholar, now you're claiming to be a Hebrew scholar as well, and you think you know better than all the Hebrew scholars behind all the translations of the Old Testament?! Oh, the ego!

Let me explain to you why Isa. 9:6 IS in fact translated correctly, and why you aren't correctly understanding it:

Isa. 9:6 For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us;
And the government will rest on His shoulders;
And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.

The reference to "Eternal Father" is not referring to "God the Father".
In this context, "Father" simply means "Creator":

Isa. 64:8 But now, O LORD, You are our Father,
We are the clay, and
You our potter;
And all of us are
the work of Your hand.

Mal. 2:10 Have we not all one Father?
Has not one God
created us?
Why then are we faithless to one another,
profaning the covenant of our fathers?


Americans recognize the same concept when they call George Washington "the Father of the country".
God was the Father of Jesus Spirit starting in Matt 3:16, and mine, and all who has received the same Spirit of God as Jesus did in Matt 3:16. He is the Father of Love, and Love is His Spirit for God is a Spirit and God is Love.

John 4:24 KJV: God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

John 4:7. Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

Try and understand this if all possible for you.
 
God was the Father of Jesus Spirit starting in Matt 3:16, and mine, and all who has received the same Spirit of God as Jesus did in Matt 3:16. He is the Father of Love, and Love is His Spirit for God is a Spirit and God is Love.

John 4:24 KJV: God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

John 4:7. Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

Try and understand this if all possible for you.
It was just the water baptism of Christ. John the Baptist did it to know who was the son of God. Read John 1.
 
Matthew 3:16 is not the gospel of salvation. 1 Cor 15:1-4 is.
Not for those who do not follow Jesus in his ways in the Father, AFTER Matt 3:16, which was the turning point in Jesus life from the laws of the temple to becoming Gods temple, the pace God resides.
Matthew 3:16 is about the water baptism of Christ.
Half of it is, you leave out the God part, all that you know is a man can DUNK another man in water.
Is water baptism how you were saved?
Not at all. God came to me by the Spirit He is and open up who He is and all of His heaven in me, just as He does in all who will receive Him.

I was saved by God Himself just as Jesus was, but when the preacher said I need to be baptized by him for salvation, the only reason I submitted to that ritual of man is he was my friend.

I went into the water a son of God and came out of the water a wet son of God.
Jesus went into the water a son of God and came out of the water a wet son of God, but then sonneting else happened that was not form Johns baptism.

You only block out that second part from your mind and couldn't even quote the whole thing.
 
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