Where will you spend eternity?

And Paul repeatedly taught that Jesus is God:

Rom. 9:5 To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.
They didn't have English punctuation in Greek so that's debatable and it's rejected by the RSV, REV, KJV, Motaff, and NAS translators as well. Maybe your first clue that your preferred version is incorrectly translated ihat God is Jesus is that God isn't descended from Adam (Luke 3)

Phil. 2:5 Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, 6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,
Did you read verse 5? Paul's premise is that the mind Jesus had they should also have. What follows is an explanation of the mind Jesus had. The word "form" refers to the outward appearance. Paul is saying whatever Jesus was thinking and doing they can do too.

Read a bit further on. The conclusion to this passage is regarding glory for God the Father. Jesus doesn't get any of that glory.

Phil 2
11and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.
Col. 2:9 For in [Christ] the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,
The fullness of God dwelling in someone doesn't make them God and it wasn't unique to Jesus.

Eph. 3
19of the love of Christ, and to know this love that surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.
Titus 2:13 waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
Great God and Savior Jesus are two different persons regarding their appearance. This is an eschatological verse. You can get more information about it from what Jesus said:

Matt 16
27For the Son of Man is going to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay each person according to what he has done.


It's sad that you reject the writings of Paul whenever they don't suit your false teachings.

Too bad you have such a narrow view of the Bible. Perhaps today you can change that after thoughtfully considering what you're being shown.
 
Sorry you don't believe or understand scripture.

Well, when the name-calling begins, the debate is over.

Since you insist Jesus is God, even though he isn't, perhaps you can explain why you believe God became sin and died.

2 Corinthians 5
21God made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that in Him we might become the righteousness of God.

What this means is not that God "sinned", but that He TOOK UPON HIMSELF our sin, in the same way sin was placed on the scapegoat in the OT.

Once again, you are rejecting CLEAR and EXPLICIT Scripture, and replacing it with worthless rationalization:

John 1:1 ... and the Word was God. [...] 14 And the Word became flesh [...]
John 8:58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
John 20:28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!
Acts 20:28 [...] to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood.
Rom. 9:5 [...] is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.
Phil. 2:5 [...] Christ Jesus, 6 who, though he was in the form of God, [...]
Col. 2:9 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,
Titus 2:13
[...] the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
Heb. 1:8 But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, [...]
2Pet. 1:1 [...] by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

You need to start BELIEVING Scripture.
 
Well, when the name-calling begins, the debate is over.



What this means is not that God "sinned", but that He TOOK UPON HIMSELF our sin, in the same way sin was placed on the scapegoat in the OT.

Once again, you are rejecting CLEAR and EXPLICIT Scripture, and replacing it with worthless rationalization:

John 1:1 ... and the Word was God. [...] 14 And the Word became flesh [...]
John 8:58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
John 20:28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!
Acts 20:28 [...] to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood.
Rom. 9:5 [...] is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.
Phil. 2:5 [...] Christ Jesus, 6 who, though he was in the form of God, [...]
Col. 2:9 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,
Titus 2:13
[...] the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
Heb. 1:8 But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, [...]
2Pet. 1:1 [...] by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

You need to start BELIEVING Scripture.

Don't change the subject. Your theology you require our holy, perfect, righteous, and sinless God to literally become a sinner and die to take our punishment. It's nonsense and blasphemy of the highest order, but I am being patient with you and hoping you will atleast understand now.
 
They didn't have English punctuation in Koine Greek so the way the RSV translates Romans 9:5 is valid

So you simply ASSUME the RSV is correct since other translations go against your personal and errant theology.

and it's also informed by the local and remote context that proves Jesus isn't God.

That is incorrect, and you demonstrate your ignorance of Scripture:

John 1:1 ... and the Word was God. [...] 14 And the Word became flesh [...]
John 8:58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
John 20:28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!
Acts 20:28 [...] to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood.
Rom. 9:5 [...] is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.
Phil. 2:5 [...] Christ Jesus, 6 who, though he was in the form of God, [...]
Col. 2:9 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,
Titus 2:13
[...] the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
Heb. 1:8 But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, [...]
2Pet. 1:1 [...] by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

This passage with your preferred translation essentially says your god is flesh and flood. Is Jesus a flesh and blood man in heaven right now? Maybe that's your first clue the RSV version is correct.

Again, you reject Scripture (John 1:1,14, Phil. 2:5-8).
You rationalize Scripture away.
Sad.

My God is an invisible Spirit dwelling in unapproachable light. The son sits at the right hand of God.

Yes, the Father is invisible.
The Son has a body of flesh.
 
Don't change the subject.

You're the one "changing the subject" with your worthless rabbit trail of bankrupt rationalization.

Your theology you require our holy, perfect, righteous, and sinless God to literally become a sinner

Nope.
I never said HE "became a sinner".
You again demonstrate your ignorance of Scripture:

2Cor. 5:21 For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

Heb. 7:26 For it was indeed fitting that we should have such a high priest, holy, innocent, unstained, separated from sinners, and exalted above the heavens.

1 John 3:5 You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin.

and die to take our punishment. It's nonsense and blasphemy of the highest order, but I am being patient with you and hoping you will atleast understand now.

All I "understand" is that you unrepentantly REJECT Scripture.

John 1:1 ... and the Word was God. [...] 14 And the Word became flesh [...]
John 8:58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
John 20:28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!
Acts 20:28 [...] to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood.
Rom. 9:5 [...] is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.
Phil. 2:5 [...] Christ Jesus, 6 who, though he was in the form of God, [...]
Col. 2:9 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,
Titus 2:13
[...] the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
Heb. 1:8 But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, [...]
2Pet. 1:1 [...] by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:
 
2Cor. 5:21 For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

Heb. 7:26 For it was indeed fitting that we should have such a high priest, holy, innocent, unstained, separated from sinners, and exalted above the heavens.

1 John 3:5 You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin.
r, [...]
2Pet. 1:1 [...] by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

God didn't become sin and die. Jesus became sin and died. Therefore Jesus isn't God.

So who died for your sins on a cross. God or a perfect man who became sin?
 
So you simply ASSUME the RSV is correct since other translations go against your personal and errant theology.
I know it's correct because the Bible says the one and only true God is the Father (John 17:4, 1 Cor. 8:6, Ephesians 4, etc) and none of Jesus disciples believed Jesus is God. They believed God is the Sovereign Lord of Heaven and Earth and Creator. (Acts 4:23-31). Jesus called his God the Lord of heaven and earth (Matt 11:25)

Jesus is a servant (Acts 4:30, Matt 12:18)

So do you believe God is your servant?
 
They didn't have English punctuation in Greek so that's debatable and it's rejected by the RSV, REV, KJV, Motaff, and NAS translators as well. Maybe your first clue that your preferred version is incorrectly translated ihat God is Jesus is that God isn't descended from Adam (Luke 3)

Well, it's described elsewhere:

John 1:1 ... and the Word was God. [...] 14 And the Word became flesh [...]
John 8:58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
John 20:28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!
Acts 20:28 [...] to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood.
Rom. 9:5 [...] is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.
Phil. 2:5 [...] Christ Jesus, 6 who, though he was in the form of God, [...]
Col. 2:9 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,
Titus 2:13
[...] the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
Heb. 1:8 But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, [...]
2Pet. 1:1 [...] by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:


I'm sorry you reject Scripture.
That's why you can NEVER be my teacher.

Did you read verse 5?

<sigh>
Why must you be so insulting?
I've read the entire Bible MANY times, in English, French, and Greek.
(And yes, that includes, "verse 5".)
So kindly get over yourself and stop being so insulting.

Paul's premise is that the mind Jesus had they should also have.

Yes, it's about humliity.
And Paul is describing Jesus' ULTIMATE humility, in condescending from the level of God to a lowly man, engaging in a humiliating death on the cross.

What follows is an explanation of the mind Jesus had. The word "form" refers to the outward appearance.
That is simply false.
Where do you get "outward appearance" from the CONTEXT?

Paul is saying whatever Jesus was thinking and doing they can do too.

Yes, and it's irrelevant to the fact that Paul identified Jesus as God in verse 6.

Read a bit further on. The conclusion to this passage is regarding glory for God the Father.

Well, of course.
But that doesn't make verse 6 disappear.
Sorry.

Jesus doesn't get any of that glory.

That's NOT what it says.

Great God and Savior Jesus are two different persons regarding their appearance.

Wrong again.
The phrase, "our great God and Saviour is describing "Jesus Christ".
Jesus Christ is "our great God".
And Jesus Christ is "Saviour".

This is called a Granville Sharp construct. In the Greek language, when there are two singular nouns, connected by "kai" ("and"), and in the same case, and not proper names, if only the first one has the article, then both nouns are referring to the same person. We see this all throughout the New Testament:

Rom. 15:6the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
1Cor. 15:24to [the] God [and] Father after destroying …
2Cor. 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord …
2Cor. 11:31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, …
Gal. 1:4 … according to the will of our God and Father,
Eph. 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord …
Eph. 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all …
Eph. 5:5 … kingdom of [the] Christ and God.
Eph. 5:20to [the] God [and] Father in the name …
Phil. 2:25 … Epaphroditus my brother and fellow worker and fellow soldier, …
Phil. 4:20 To our God and Father be glory forever and ever. Amen.
Col. 4:7 … He is a beloved brother and faithful minister and fellow servant in the Lord.
1Th. 1:3 remembering before our God and Father
1Th. 3:11 Now may our God and Father himself, …
1Th. 3:13 … in holiness before our God and Father, …
2Th. 1:12 …the grace of our God and Lord Jesus Christ.
1Tim. 5:21 In the presence of [the] God and Christ Jesus …
1Tim. 6:15 … and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords,
2Tim. 4:1 … in the presence of [the] God and Christ Jesus, …
Titus 2:13 … the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
Heb. 3:1 … consider Jesus, the apostle and high priest
Heb. 12:2 looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter of our faith, …
James 1:27 … undefiled before [the] God [and] Father is this: …
James 3:9 With it we bless our Lord and Father, …
James 4:12 There is only one lawgiver and judge,
1Pet. 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord …
1Pet. 2:25 … returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.
2Pet. 1:1 … the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:
2Pet. 1:11 … kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
2Pet. 2:20 … the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus …
2Pet. 3:2 …the commandment of the Lord and Savior
2Pet. 3:18 … knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Jude 4 … and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
Rev. 1:6 … priests to his God and Father, to him be glory …
Rev. 1:9 I, John, your brother and partner in the tribulation …

JW's and other deniers of Christ's deity will accept this construct in almost EVERY instance, except for the constructs which prove Christ's deity (Tit. 2:13, 2 Pet. 1:1). This proves that your rejection of these verses is based on your rejection of theology, not on the Greek construct itself.

And what's INCREDIBLY interesting is the constructs we find in 2 Pet. 1:

2Pet. 1:1 ... τοῦ θεοῦ ἡμῶν καὶ σωτῆρος Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ·
......................the ...God. of-us and saviour.... Jesus Christ
2Pet. 1:11 ... τοῦ κυρίου ἡμῶν καὶ σωτῆρος Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ.
......................the ..Lord... of-us and saviour.... Jesus Christ

The phrases in these two verses are IDENTICAL, except for the change from "theou" ("god") to "kuriou" ("lord"). And the latter is instantly accepted (Christ being "Lord and Saviour", yet the former is rejected (Christ being "God and Saviour". This PROVES doctrinal bias on your part.

Too bad you have such a narrow view of the Bible. Perhaps today you can change that after thoughtfully considering what you're being shown.

All you've done is prove that you don't care about God's truth in the Bible, and you instead reject passages right and left, and invent your own false theology with all of your worthless rationalizations.
 
God didn't become sin and die.

False.
Where does Scripture (not your worthless rationalizations) say, "God didn't become sin and die". Chapter and verse, please...

Jesus became sin and died.

True.

Therefore Jesus isn't God.

Scripture contradicts your false theology:

John 1:1 ... and the Word was God. [...] 14 And the Word became flesh [...]
John 8:58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
John 20:28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!
Acts 20:28 [...] to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood.
Rom. 9:5 [...] is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.
Phil. 2:5 [...] Christ Jesus, 6 who, though he was in the form of God, [...]
Col. 2:9 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,
Titus 2:13
[...] the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
Heb. 1:8 But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, [...]
2Pet. 1:1 [...] by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

So who died for your sins on a cross. God or a perfect man who became sin?

Christ died for my sins on a cross.
Christ is God.

But wait, let me share with you what the earliest Christians believed and taught. And it looks like we went around on this last May, since I shared these passages (as well as the above Scriptures) with you back then.

The Earliest church:

(Clement, Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarp, Justin Martyr, Melito of Sardis, Irenaeus, Clement of Alexandria, Tertullian, Hippolytus, etc.)

He that hung up the earth in space was Himself hanged up; He that fixed the heavens was fixed with nails; He that bore up the earth was borne up on a tree; the Lord of all was subjected to ignominy in a naked body—God put to death! the King of Israel slain with Israel’s right hand! Alas for the new wickedness of the new murder! The Lord was exposed with naked body: He was not deemed worthy even of covering; and, in order that He might not be seen, the luminaries turned away, and the day became darkened because they slew God, who hung naked on the tree.” (Melito of Sardis, Part V)

The scepter of the majesty of God, even our Lord Jesus Christ, came not in the pomp of arrogance or of pride” (Clement of Rome, 1Clem 16:2)

“Brethren, we ought so to think of Jesus Christ, as of God, as of the Judge of quick and dead.” (Clement of Rome, 2Clem. 1:1)

“... predestined, before time was, to be—to her abiding and unchanging glory—forever united and chosen, through real suffering, by the will of the Father and Jesus Christ our God.” (Ignatius, Eph. 1:0)

“Why do we not all become wise, having received knowledge of God, that is, Jesus Christ!“ (Ignatius, Eph. 17:2)

“The fact is, our God Jesus Christ was conceived by Mary according to God’s dispensation of the seed of David, it is true,..." (Ignatius, Eph. 18:2)

God was making His appearance in human form to mold the newness of eternal life:” (Ignatius, Eph. 19:3)

Tral. 7:1 And you will do so if you are not puffed up and cling inseparably to God Jesus Christ, to the bishop, and to the precepts of the Apostles. (Ignatius, Tral. 7:1)

“Ignatius, also called Theophorus, to the Church that has found mercy in the transcendent Majesty of the Most High Father and of Jesus Christ, His only Son; the church by the will of Him who willed all things that exist, beloved and illuminated through the faith and love of Jesus Christ our God; […] Heartiest good wishes for unimpaired joy in Jesus Christ our God, to those who are united in flesh and spirit by every commandment of His;” (Ignatius, Rom. 1:0)

“Nothing that is seen is good. Our God Jesus Christ certainly is the more clearly seen now that He is in the Father." (Ignatius, Rom. 3:3)

I extol Jesus Christ, the God who has granted you such wisdom. For I have observed that you are thoroughly trained in unshaken faith, being nailed, as it were, to the Cross of the Lord Jesus Christ both in body and in soul,…" (Ignatius, Smyr. 1:1)

"it was good of you to give them a warm reception as to servants of Christ God“ (Ignatius, Smyr. 10:1)

“I say good-bye to you all forever in Jesus Christ our God, through whom I wish you to be united with God and under His watchful eye. "(Ignatius, Poly. 8:3)

“and may He grant unto you a lot and portion among His saints, and to us with you, and to all that are under heaven, who shall believe on our Lord and God Jesus Christ and on His Father that raised him from the dead. (Polycarp, Phil. 12:2)

“but now you will permit me first to recount the prophecies, which I wish to do in order to provethat Christ is called both God and Lord of hosts, and Jacob, in parable by the Holy Spirit; ” (Justin Martyr, Dialogue with Trypho, 36)

“For if you had understood what has been written by the prophets, you would not have denied that He was God, Son of the only, unbegotten, unutterable God.” (Justin Martyr, Dialogue with Trypho, 126)

“And that Christ being Lord, and God the Son of God, and appearing formerly in power as Man, and Angel, and in the glory of fire as at the bush, so also was manifested at the judgment executed on Sodom,” (Justin Martyr, Dialogue with Trypho, 128)

“For they who affirm that the Son is the Father, are proved neither to have become acquainted with the Father, nor to know that the Father of the universe has a Son; who also, being the first-begotten Word of God, is even God." (Justin Martyr, First Apology, 63)

“ the ascension into heaven in the flesh of the beloved Christ Jesus, our Lord, and His [future] manifestation from heaven in the glory of the Father ‘to gather all things in one,’ and to raise up anew all flesh of the whole human race, in order that to Christ Jesus, our Lord, and God, and Saviour, and King, according to the will of the invisible Father,” (Irenaeus, Against Heresies, 1.10.1)

This Word, then, the Christ, the cause of both our being at first (for He was in God) and of our well-being, this very Word has now appeared as man, He alone being both, both God and man—[...] for the Word, who “was with God,” and by whom all things were created, has appeared as our Teacher. The Word, who in the beginning bestowed on us life as Creator when He formed us, taught us to live well when He appeared as our Teacher; that as God He might afterwards conduct us to the life which never ends.” (Clement of Alexandria, Exhortation to the Heathen, 1)

“For God alone is without sin; and the only man without sin is Christ, since Christ is also God.” (Tertullian, Treatise on the Soul, Part 1, 41)

“The Logos alone of this God is from God himself; wherefore also the Logos is God, being thesubstance of God.” (Hippolytus, Refutation of All Heresies, 10.29)
 
I know it's correct because the Bible says the one and only true God is the Father (John 17:4, 1 Cor. 8:6, Ephesians 4, etc)

You need to learn the difference between:
"The Father is the only true God" (Scripture), and
"ONLY the Father is the true God" (NOT Scripture).

There is only one God. Monotheism.
The Father is that one true God.
The Son is that one true God.
They are not separate "gods".

Meanwhile, you continue to REJECT:

John 1:1 ... and the Word was God. [...] 14 And the Word became flesh [...]
John 8:58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
John 20:28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!
Acts 20:28 [...] to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood.
Rom. 9:5 [...] is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.
Phil. 2:5 [...] Christ Jesus, 6 who, though he was in the form of God, [...]
Col. 2:9 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,
Titus 2:13
[...] the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
Heb. 1:8 But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, [...]
2Pet. 1:1 [...] by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

and none of Jesus disciples believed Jesus is God.

I already corrected you on this, and apparently you simply ignored where you were refuted. So I will correct you yet AGAIN. Please try to PAY ATTENTION this time, as I don't like having to repeat myself.

John believed Jesus was God (John 1:1).
Thomas believed Jesus was God (John 20:28).
Luke believed Jesus was God (Acts 20:28).
Peter believed Jesus was God (2 Pet. 1:1).
The author of Hebrews believed Jesus was God (Heb. 1:8).
Paul believed Jesus was God (Rom. 9:5, Tit. 2:13, Phil. 2:5-6, Col. 2:9).
 
Well, it's described elsewhere:

John 1:1 ... and the Word was God. [...] 14 And the Word became flesh [...]
John 8:58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
John 20:28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!
Acts 20:28 [...] to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood.
Rom. 9:5 [...] is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.
Phil. 2:5 [...] Christ Jesus, 6 who, though he was in the form of God, [...]
Col. 2:9 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,
Titus 2:13
[...] the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
Heb. 1:8 But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, [...]
2Pet. 1:1 [...] by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:


I'm sorry you reject Scripture.
That's why you can NEVER be my teacher.



<sigh>
Why must you be so insulting?
I've read the entire Bible MANY times, in English, French, and Greek.
(And yes, that includes, "verse 5".)
So kindly get over yourself and stop being so insulting.



Yes, it's about humliity.
And Paul is describing Jesus' ULTIMATE humility, in condescending from the level of God to a lowly man, engaging in a humiliating death on the cross.


That is simply false.
Where do you get "outward appearance" from the CONTEXT?



Yes, and it's irrelevant to the fact that Paul identified Jesus as God in verse 6.



Well, of course.
But that doesn't make verse 6 disappear.
Sorry.



That's NOT what it says.



Wrong again.
The phrase, "our great God and Saviour is describing "Jesus Christ".
Jesus Christ is "our great God".
And Jesus Christ is "Saviour".

This is called a Granville Sharp construct. In the Greek language, when there are two singular nouns, connected by "kai" ("and"), and in the same case, and not proper names, if only the first one has the article, then both nouns are referring to the same person. We see this all throughout the New Testament:

Rom. 15:6the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
1Cor. 15:24to [the] God [and] Father after destroying …
2Cor. 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord …
2Cor. 11:31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, …
Gal. 1:4 … according to the will of our God and Father,
Eph. 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord …
Eph. 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all …
Eph. 5:5 … kingdom of [the] Christ and God.
Eph. 5:20to [the] God [and] Father in the name …
Phil. 2:25 … Epaphroditus my brother and fellow worker and fellow soldier, …
Phil. 4:20 To our God and Father be glory forever and ever. Amen.
Col. 4:7 … He is a beloved brother and faithful minister and fellow servant in the Lord.
1Th. 1:3 remembering before our God and Father
1Th. 3:11 Now may our God and Father himself, …
1Th. 3:13 … in holiness before our God and Father, …
2Th. 1:12 …the grace of our God and Lord Jesus Christ.
1Tim. 5:21 In the presence of [the] God and Christ Jesus …
1Tim. 6:15 … and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords,
2Tim. 4:1 … in the presence of [the] God and Christ Jesus, …
Titus 2:13 … the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
Heb. 3:1 … consider Jesus, the apostle and high priest
Heb. 12:2 looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter of our faith, …
James 1:27 … undefiled before [the] God [and] Father is this: …
James 3:9 With it we bless our Lord and Father, …
James 4:12 There is only one lawgiver and judge,
1Pet. 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord …
1Pet. 2:25 … returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.
2Pet. 1:1 … the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:
2Pet. 1:11 … kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
2Pet. 2:20 … the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus …
2Pet. 3:2 …the commandment of the Lord and Savior
2Pet. 3:18 … knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Jude 4 … and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
Rev. 1:6 … priests to his God and Father, to him be glory …
Rev. 1:9 I, John, your brother and partner in the tribulation …

JW's and other deniers of Christ's deity will accept this construct in almost EVERY instance, except for the constructs which prove Christ's deity (Tit. 2:13, 2 Pet. 1:1). This proves that your rejection of these verses is based on your rejection of theology, not on the Greek construct itself.

And what's INCREDIBLY interesting is the constructs we find in 2 Pet. 1:

2Pet. 1:1 ... τοῦ θεοῦ ἡμῶν καὶ σωτῆρος Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ·
......................the ...God. of-us and saviour.... Jesus Christ
2Pet. 1:11 ... τοῦ κυρίου ἡμῶν καὶ σωτῆρος Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ.
......................the ..Lord... of-us and saviour.... Jesus Christ

The phrases in these two verses are IDENTICAL, except for the change from "theou" ("god") to "kuriou" ("lord"). And the latter is instantly accepted (Christ being "Lord and Saviour", yet the former is rejected (Christ being "God and Saviour". This PROVES doctrinal bias on your part.



All you've done is prove that you don't care about God's truth in the Bible, and you instead reject passages right and left, and invent your own false theology with all of your worthless rationalizations.

What you’re doing is called verse padding. It’s your attempt to overload the discussion with information to cause a distraction and muddy the waters. I’m not reading all of that.

Seems as if you have God becoming sin and dying. Why do you insist on assigning sin to God rather than Jesus, the sinless sacrificial lamb?
 
You need to learn the difference between:
"The Father is the only true God" (Scripture), and
"ONLY the Father is the true God" (NOT Scripture).

There is only one God. Monotheism.
The Father is that one true God.
The Son is that one true God.
They are not separate "gods".

Meanwhile, you continue to REJECT:

John 1:1 ... and the Word was God. [...] 14 And the Word became flesh [...]
John 8:58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
John 20:28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!
Acts 20:28 [...] to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood.
Rom. 9:5 [...] is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.
Phil. 2:5 [...] Christ Jesus, 6 who, though he was in the form of God, [...]
Col. 2:9 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,
Titus 2:13
[...] the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
Heb. 1:8 But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, [...]
2Pet. 1:1 [...] by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:



I already corrected you on this, and apparently you simply ignored where you were refuted. So I will correct you yet AGAIN. Please try to PAY ATTENTION this time, as I don't like having to repeat myself.

John believed Jesus was God (John 1:1).
Thomas believed Jesus was God (John 20:28).
Luke believed Jesus was God (Acts 20:28).
Peter believed Jesus was God (2 Pet. 1:1).
The author of Hebrews believed Jesus was God (Heb. 1:8).
Paul believed Jesus was God (Rom. 9:5, Tit. 2:13, Phil. 2:5-6, Col. 2:9).

Do you know what the word logos means?
 
What you’re doing is called verse padding. It’s your attempt to overload the discussion with information to cause a distraction and muddy the waters. I’m not reading all of that.

Yes, I figured you would willingly remain wallowing in your ignorance.
Just don't expect people to blindly believe your garbage when you choose to wallow in ignorance.

Seems as if you have God becoming sin and dying.

It's what Scripture teaches.
I'm sorry that you reject Scripture.

Why do you insist on assigning sin to God rather than Jesus, the sinless sacrificial lamb?

Because Scripture is clear and explicit that Jesus is God.
You choose to willingly ignore all the passages which so testify.
Your loss.
 
Yes, I figured you would willingly remain wallowing in your ignorance.
Just don't expect people to blindly believe your garbage when you choose to wallow in ignorance.



It's what Scripture teaches.
I'm sorry that you reject Scripture.



Because Scripture is clear and explicit that Jesus is God.
You choose to willingly ignore all the passages which so testify.
Your loss.

So you believe God died? Who resurrected Jesus then? This should be good.
 
Of course I do.
Unlike you, I can actually read Koine Greek.

Good. Then you know it refers to something said; by implication, a topic, also reasoning or motive; by extension, a computation; specially, the Divine Expression. Logos is not translated as son or Jesus or Messiah, etc.

So Jesus is something said or divine expression? So when something was said [by God] then Jesus was created? John 1:14
 
Christ died. God raised Him up.

So God didn’t die and God didn’t bear our sins. I agree. So a human body bore our sins.

1 Peter 2
24He Himself bore our sins
in His body on the tree,

so that we might die to sin
and live to righteousness.
“By His stripes you are healed.”
 
So God didn’t die and God didn’t bear our sins. I agree. So a human body bore our sins.

1 Peter 2
24He Himself bore our sins
in His body on the tree,

so that we might die to sin
and live to righteousness.
“By His stripes you are healed.”
The Word was God and the Word became flesh
 
So you believe God died? Who resurrected Jesus then? This should be good.

Do you really think mockery is a fruit of the Spirit?
You are VERY confused.
Even if you don't agree with a particular theology, you should at LEAST try to adequately understand it. As long as you refuse to understand what we believe, you will never be able to "disprove" what we believe, as you are largely wasting our time by arguing worthless straw-man.

The first thing is you seem to be conflating the Father and the Son.
The Father is not the Son.
The Son is not the Father.
So the Father rasied Jesus from the dead.

The second thing you don't understand is that "dead" does not mean "no longer exists". Jesus did many things while He was in the grave.

Now, if you want to learn to be a true Christian, you need to demonstrate the fruits of the Spirit of God. And mockery is not a fruit of the Spirit.
 
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