Who came up with the idea that Mormons have to earn eternal life?

Psalm 74:22
Arise, O God, defend your cause;
remember how the foolish scoff at you all the day!

The mormon god is not the Biblical God,

Mormonism worships an unbiblical God

Joseph Smith was not a prophet of the Biblical God



Do you know what the law of non-contradiction is? If something is true, that which opposes it is false!

In Exodus 3:14, God, Himself is speaking and uses the Hebrew Imperfect grammar to describe Himself to Moses that what He is, He has always been, and the same is used in the Greek grammar to describe Jesus in John 1:1

Joseph Smith in the King Follett Discourse (given on General Conference) taught that God was once a man, just as we are, and that he became a God, and that you have to learn how to become gods

Right there, with that one sentence, Joseph Smith reveals that Mormons do not worship the God of Exodus 3:14, and that he, Joseph Smith was not a prophet of the Biblical God of Exodus 3:14!

The mormon definition and doctrine of god comes 3000 years after Moses wrote Exodus, from Joseph Smith in the King Follett discourse and is contradictory. (You want to claim that the KFD is not central to your doctrine? Your prophet stated this at General Conference, and it is core doctrine!)


Mormons who argue that their beliefs should be accepted as truth do so by rejecting true truth from the discussion, case in point!



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Ephesians 4:29
29 Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.

2 Corinthians 11:13-15
13 For such men (mormons) are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.
14 No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds.



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Proverbs 12:19
Truthful lips endure for ever,
but a lying tongue is but for a moment.

Still no answer or comment to the following post?


Do you hold the Aaronic Priesthood and the Melchizedek Priesthood?

Do you know what the qualifications are?

First of all it is not called the Aaronic Priesthood, it was called the Levitical Priesthood, and you had to be of the Tribe of Levi and a descendant of Aaron to be able to hold it, do you qualify, No!


How convenient that you didn't post more of Hebrews 7, so let me do it for you,

Hebrews 7:11-17
11 Now if perfection was through the Levitical priesthood (for on the basis of it the people received the Law), what further need was there for another priest to arise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be designated according to the order of Aaron?
12 For when the priesthood is changed, of necessity there takes place a change of law also.
13 For the one concerning whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no one has officiated at the altar.
14 For it is evident that our Lord was descended from Judah, a tribe with reference to which Moses spoke nothing concerning priests.
15 And this is clearer still, if another priest arises according to the likeness of Melchizedek,
16 who has become such not on the basis of a law of physical requirement, but according to the power of an indestructible life.
17 For it is attested of Him, "YOU ARE A PRIEST forever ACCORDING to the order of MELCHIZEDEK."


The Melchizedek Priesthood is speaking of Christ and the lineage of Judah


Are you of the lineage of Judah? No!



From a Biblical perspective, it is impossible for you to hold both priesthoods


So, don't quote the Bible to support your heresy!



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The Melchizedek Priesthood is speaking of Christ and the lineage of Judah. Are you of the lineage of Judah? No!

Hebrews 7:24 (NIV)
but because Jesus lives forever, he has a permanent priesthood.
Hebrews 724 (NASB)
but Jesus, on the other hand, because He continues forever, holds His priesthood permanently.
Hebrews 724 (RSV)
but he holds his priesthood permanently, because he continues for ever.

Hebrews 5:10
10 being called by God as a high priest after the order of Melchizedek,

τάξις (taxis)
GK: G5423

order,regular disposition,arrangement;order,series,succession,Luke 1:8; an order,distinctive class,as of priests,Hebrews 5:6,10;6:20;7:11 (2x),17;order,good order,1 Corinthians 14:40;orderliness,well-regulated conduct,Colossians 2:5

 
Hebrews 7:11
11 If then, perfection came through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there for another priest to appear, said to be in the order of Melchizedek and not in the order of Aaron?
 
Thankfully, we can search God's word for guidance so that we won't be deceived. Jesus can deliver us from this evil world.
If you did that, you would know that you are being deceived. Again, the issue here is our interpretation of what we read. Your interpretation requires ignoring key doctrinal passages. That should raise aa alarm, but no. Sadly, 'tis better to remain in darkness.
 

The Aaronic Priesthood
By Elder Boyd K. Packer
Of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles

The Levitical Priesthood

The Aaronic Priesthood is also called the Levitical Priesthood. The word Levitical comes from the name Levi, one of the twelve sons of Israel. Moses and Aaron, who were brothers, were Levites.
When the Aaronic Priesthood was given to Israel, Aaron and his sons received the presiding and administrative responsibility. The male members of all other Levite families were put in charge of the ceremonies of the tabernacle, including the Mosaic law of sacrifice.
The law of sacrifice had been observed since the days of Adam. It was symbolic of the redemption that would come with the sacrifice and the atonement of the Messiah. The Mosaic law of sacrifice was fulfilled with the crucifixion of Christ.
Anciently they looked forward to the atonement of Christ through the ceremony of the sacrifice. We look back to that same event through the ordinance of the sacrament.
Both sacrifice before, and the sacrament afterward, are centered in Christ, the shedding of His blood, and the atonement He made for our sins. Both then and now the authority to perform these ordinances belongs to the Aaronic Priesthood.
This is indeed a sacred responsibility and includes you in a brotherhood with those ancient servants of the Lord. It is no wonder that we feel so humble when we participate in the ordinances assigned to the Aaronic Priesthood.
Can you see that it is correct to call it the Aaronic or the Levitical Priesthood? It is a matter of designating duties; it is all one priesthood.
 

Hebrews 7:24 (NIV)
but because Jesus lives forever, he has a permanent priesthood.
Hebrews 724 (NASB)
but Jesus, on the other hand, because He continues forever, holds His priesthood permanently.
Hebrews 724 (RSV)
but he holds his priesthood permanently, because he continues for ever.

Hebrews 5:10
10 being called by God as a high priest after the order of Melchizedek,

τάξις (taxis)

GK: G5423

order,regular disposition,arrangement;order,series,succession,Luke 1:8; an order,distinctive class,as of priests,Hebrews 5:6,10;6:20;7:11 (2x),17;order,good order,1 Corinthians 14:40;orderliness,well-regulated conduct,Colossians 2:5



Hebrews 7:13-14, "
13 For the one concerning whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no one has officiated at the altar.
14 For it is evident that our Lord was descended from Judah, a tribe with reference to which Moses spoke nothing concerning priests.



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The Aaronic Priesthood
By Elder Boyd K. Packer
Of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles

The Levitical Priesthood

The Aaronic Priesthood is also called the Levitical Priesthood. The word Levitical comes from the name Levi, one of the twelve sons of Israel. Moses and Aaron, who were brothers, were Levites.
When the Aaronic Priesthood was given to Israel, Aaron and his sons received the presiding and administrative responsibility. The male members of all other Levite families were put in charge of the ceremonies of the tabernacle, including the Mosaic law of sacrifice.
The law of sacrifice had been observed since the days of Adam. It was symbolic of the redemption that would come with the sacrifice and the atonement of the Messiah. The Mosaic law of sacrifice was fulfilled with the crucifixion of Christ.
Anciently they looked forward to the atonement of Christ through the ceremony of the sacrifice. We look back to that same event through the ordinance of the sacrament.
Both sacrifice before, and the sacrament afterward, are centered in Christ, the shedding of His blood, and the atonement He made for our sins. Both then and now the authority to perform these ordinances belongs to the Aaronic Priesthood.
This is indeed a sacred responsibility and includes you in a brotherhood with those ancient servants of the Lord. It is no wonder that we feel so humble when we participate in the ordinances assigned to the Aaronic Priesthood.
Can you see that it is correct to call it the Aaronic or the Levitical Priesthood? It is a matter of designating duties; it is all one priesthood.


Throughout Biblical History it is only known as the Levitical Priesthood, and the word Aaronic cannot be found in the Biblical Scriptures

Then all of a sudden, God is going to restore the priesthood through Joseph Smith and change the name?

This is nothing but desperate mormon damage control

By the same false apostles who were conned by Mark Hoffman



Lie after lie after lie


The Bible warns of false prophets and false apostles and the mormons fit the description perfectly


The LDS Church Teaches Pagan Doctrines of Men! (Matthew 15:7-9)

Mormonism is not Biblical!

The List



  1. Joseph Smith was and still is a false prophet (Deuteronomy 13 & 18)
  2. Joseph Smith taught the Biblical God was a man prior to becoming God (King Follett Discourse; see #1; Lorenzo Snow, see Exodus 3:14)
  3. Joseph Smith taught, promoted, and practice pagan cult prostitution (37 wives from 1841-1843) (polygamy)
  4. Joseph Smith plagiarized the King James Bible in translating from the gold plates (see #1, the gold plates were supposed to be older than 1611)
  5. Joseph Smith taught the Book of Mormon was the most correct Book of any book on Earth (see #1, see #4)
  6. The Book of Mormon has no archaeological or historical support
  7. The Book of Mormon geography does not correlate to the known real world
  8. Book of Mormon accounts concerning Hill Cumorah are fictional (see #1 and #5)
  9. No “Book of Mormon” people, cities, or lands have been located in the New World.
  10. No “Book of Mormon” names have been found in any New World inscriptions.
  11. No genuine inscriptions have been found in either Hebrew or Egyptian in the New World.
  12. No ancient copies of “Book of Mormon” scriptures have been found anywhere (see #6)
  13. No evidence of pre-Columbian wheat has been found anywhere in the Americas.
  14. No use of domestic animals among the ancient American peoples has ever been documented. B. H. Roberts, (noted LDS historian), stated that, “before the time of Columbus and the Spaniards, no tribe had any animal able to carry a man.”
  15. No use of iron ore or steel has ever been documented among the Native American peoples. No documented evidence of the battle at hill Cumorah has been found, especially no Chariots. (see #8)
  16. The Mormon Temple and its ceremonies have absolutely no correlation with the O.T. Jewish Temple (see Masonry)
  17. Mormonism teaches Satan is God’s Son, a brother to Jesus
  18. Mormonism teaches Jesus was born from natural human sexual relations between God the Father and Mary (Brigham Young and Bruce McConkie)
  19. The Mormon Prophet and Mormon Apostles are false prophets and apostles (Exposed by Mark Hoffman and the Salamander Letter)
  20. Mormonism changed the Garden of Eden from the location in relation to the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in Genesis 2:14, to Missouri in the United States
  21. Baptism and keeping all of God’s laws and commandments perfectly is essential for exaltation (vows are taken at Baptism, Sacrament, Temple Endowment Ceremony, confirmed by Ezra Benson and Spencer Kimball)
  22. Eternal Security is being sealed in the Mormon Temple
And the list could go on and on and on!



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If you did that, you would know that you are being deceived. Again, the issue here is our interpretation of what we read. Your interpretation requires ignoring key doctrinal passages. That should raise aa alarm, but no. Sadly, 'tis better to remain in darkness.


Key doctrinal passages?

Here is one for you

2 Chronicles 23:19 He stationed the gatekeepers of the house of the LORD, so that no one would enter who was in any way unclean.


And satan is the source of lies, rebellion against God, and lawlessness


And he is in your temple

Your temple is not Biblical in any way! It is unclean! It is a cult!




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Hebrews 7:11
11 If then, perfection came through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there for another priest to appear, said to be in the order of Melchizedek and not in the order of Aaron?

mormon interpretation and teaching on the priesthoods is all messed up

Just like mormon interpretation and teaching that god had satan for a son

And that satan is your elder brother


that is cult teaching, nothing Biblical about it



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Mormon interpretation and teaching on the priesthoods is all messed up.
“We sometimes overly associate the power of the priesthood with men in the Church. The priesthood is the power and authority of God given for the salvation and blessing of all—men,women, and children.
A man may open the drapes so the warm sunlight comes into the room,but the man does not own the sun or the light or the warmth it brings. The blessings of the priesthood are infinitely greater than the one who is asked to administer the gift.”
“All of the ordinances invite us to increase our faith in Jesus Christ and to make and keep covenants with God. As we keep these sacred covenants,we receive priesthood power and blessings.” [Power in the Priesthood By Elder Neil L. Andersen Of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles]
Just like Mormon interpretation and teaching that God had satan for a son.​
John 1:14
14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

μονογενής (monogenēs)
Strong: G3439
GK: G3666
only-begotten,only-born, Luke 7:12; 8:42;9:38;Hebrew 11:17;only-begotten in respect of peculiar generation,unique,John 1:14,18;3:16,18;1 John 4:9
And that satan is your elder brother.
The reference to Jesus as the “first-born”—and hence the justification for our calling him our “Elder Brother”—cannot refer to any relationship that he established in his earth life,since as to the flesh he is not our “Elder Brother,” any more than he is the “first-born” in the flesh. There were many born as to the flesh,before he was, and older brothers to us in the flesh than he. The relationship of “Elder Brother” cannot have reference to that estate where all were self-existent,uncreated and unbegotten,eternal intelligences,for that estate admits of no such relation as “elder” or “younger.” For as to the succession in time—the fact on which “younger” or “elder” depends—the intelligences are equal,that is, equal as to their eternity. Therefore, since the relationship of “Elder Brother” was not established by any possible fact in that estate where all were self-existing intelligences,it must have been established in the spirit life where Jesus,with reference to the hosts of intelligences designed to our earth,was the “first-born spirit,” and by that fact became our “Elder Brother,” the “first-born of every creature,” “the beginning of the creations of God,” as pertaining to our order of existence. [B. H. Roberts,The Truth, the Way,the Life:An Elementary Treatise on Theology,ed. John W. Welch,2d ed. (Provo,Utah: BYU Studies,1996),250.]
 
Key doctrinal passages? Here is one for you

2 Chronicles 23:19 He stationed the gatekeepers of the house of the LORD, so that no one would enter who was in any way unclean.

And satan is the source of lies,rebellion against God,and lawlessness. And he is in your temple. Your temple is not Biblical in any way! It is unclean! It is a cult!​
Matthew 15:10-11,16-17,19-20
10 And he called the people to him and said to them, “Hear and understand: 11 it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person,but what comes out of the mouth;this defiles a person.” 16 And he said,“Are you also still without understanding? 17 Do you not see that whatever goes into the mouth passes into the stomach and is expelled? 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person. But to eat with unwashed hands does not defile anyone.”
 
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Throughout Biblical History it is only known as the Levitical Priesthood, and the word Aaronic cannot be found in the Biblical Scriptures. Then all of a sudden, God is going to restore the priesthood through Joseph Smith and change the name? This is nothing but desperate mormon damage control. By the same false apostles who were conned by Mark Hoffman. Lie after lie after lie. The Bible warns of false prophets and false apostles and the mormons fit the description perfectly

The LDS Church Teaches Pagan Doctrines of Men! (Matthew 15:7-9) Mormonism is not Biblical!

The List

  1. Joseph Smith was and still is a false prophet (Deuteronomy 13 & 18)
  2. Joseph Smith taught the Biblical God was a man prior to becoming God (King Follett Discourse; see #1; Lorenzo Snow, see Exodus 3:14)
  3. Joseph Smith taught, promoted, and practice pagan cult prostitution (37 wives from 1841-1843) (polygamy)
  4. Joseph Smith plagiarized the King James Bible in translating from the gold plates (see #1, the gold plates were supposed to be older than 1611)
  5. Joseph Smith taught the Book of Mormon was the most correct Book of any book on Earth (see #1, see #4)
  6. The Book of Mormon has no archaeological or historical support
  7. The Book of Mormon geography does not correlate to the known real world
  8. Book of Mormon accounts concerning Hill Cumorah are fictional (see #1 and #5)
  9. No “Book of Mormon” people, cities, or lands have been located in the New World.
  10. No “Book of Mormon” names have been found in any New World inscriptions.
  11. No genuine inscriptions have been found in either Hebrew or Egyptian in the New World.
  12. No ancient copies of “Book of Mormon” scriptures have been found anywhere (see #6)
  13. No evidence of pre-Columbian wheat has been found anywhere in the Americas.
  14. No use of domestic animals among the ancient American peoples has ever been documented. B. H. Roberts, (noted LDS historian), stated that, “before the time of Columbus and the Spaniards, no tribe had any animal able to carry a man.”
  15. No use of iron ore or steel has ever been documented among the Native American peoples. No documented evidence of the battle at hill Cumorah has been found, especially no Chariots. (see #8)
  16. The Mormon Temple and its ceremonies have absolutely no correlation with the O.T. Jewish Temple (see Masonry)
  17. Mormonism teaches Satan is God’s Son, a brother to Jesus
  18. Mormonism teaches Jesus was born from natural human sexual relations between God the Father and Mary (Brigham Young and Bruce McConkie)
  19. The Mormon Prophet and Mormon Apostles are false prophets and apostles (Exposed by Mark Hoffman and the Salamander Letter)
  20. Mormonism changed the Garden of Eden from the location in relation to the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in Genesis 2:14, to Missouri in the United States
  21. Baptism and keeping all of God’s laws and commandments perfectly is essential for exaltation (vows are taken at Baptism, Sacrament, Temple Endowment Ceremony, confirmed by Ezra Benson and Spencer Kimball)
  22. Eternal Security is being sealed in the Mormon Temple
And the list could go on and on and on!
Proverbs 26:1-12
Like snow in summer or rain in harvest,
so honor is not fitting for a fool.
2 Like a sparrow in its flitting, like a swallow in its flying,
an undeserved curse goes nowhere.
3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the donkey,
and a rod for the back of fools.
4 Do not answer fools according to their folly,
lest you be a fool yourself.
5 Answer fools according to their folly,
lest they be wise in their own eyes.
6 It is like cutting off one’s foot and drinking down violence,
to send a message by a fool.
The legs of a lame person hang limp;
so does a proverb in the mouth of a fool.
8 It is like binding a stone in a sling
to give honor to a fool.
9 Like a thornbush brandished by the hand of a drunkard
is a proverb in the mouth of a fool.
10 Like an archer who wounds everybody
is one who hires a passing fool or drunkard.
11 Like a dog that returns to its vomit
is a fool who reverts to his folly.
12 Do you see people wise in their own eyes?
There is more hope for fools than for them.
 
Hebrews 7:13-14, "
13 For the one concerning whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe,from which no one has officiated at the altar.
14 For it is evident that our Lord was descended from Judah, a tribe with reference to which Moses spoke nothing concerning priests.
Hebrews 7:14-17
14 For it is evident that our Lord was descended from Judah, and in connection with that tribe Moses said nothing about priests.
15 It is even more obvious when another priest arises, resembling Melchizedek, 16 one who has become a priest, not through a legal requirement concerning physical descent but through the power of an indestructible life. 17 For it is attested of him,
“You are a priest forever,
according to the order of Melchizedek.”
 
1 Corinthians 8:4-6
Hence, as to the eating of food offered to idols, we know that “no idol in the world really exists” and that “there is no God but one.” 5 Indeed, even though there may be so-called gods in heaven or on earth—as in fact there are many gods and many lords— 6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.

Exodus 15:11
11
Who is like you, O Lord, among the gods?
Who is like you, majestic in holiness,
awesome in splendor, doing wonders?

Psalm 86:8
8
There is none like you among the gods, O Lord, nor are there any works like yours.
 
Genesis 2:24
24 Therefore a man leaves his father and his mother and clings to his wife,and they become one flesh.
Isaiah 65:23
23 They shall not labor in vain,nor bring forth for trouble;for they are the seed of the blessed of the Lord,and their offspring with them.
Matthew 16:19
19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in Heaven,and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in Heaven.”
Matthew 19:4-6
4 He answered,“Have you not read that the one who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ 5 and said,‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife,and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together,let no one separate.”
1 Corinthians 11:11
11 Nevertheless,neither is the man without the woman,nor the woman without the man,in the Lord.
1 Peter 3:7
7 Likewise,ye husbands,dwell with your wives with understanding,giving honor unto the wife as unto the weaker vessel,and as being heirs together of the grace of life,that your prayers be not hindered.



 
Hebrews 7:15
And it is even more obvious that if, according to the likeness (homoiotēta| ὁμοιότητα | acc sg fem) of Melchizedek,another priest arises,

 
Numbers 16:2-3
2 two hundred fifty Israelite men, leaders of the congregation, chosen from the assembly, well-known men, and they confronted Moses. 3 They assembled against Moses and against Aaron and said to them, “You have gone too far! All the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the Lord is among them. So why then do you exalt yourselves above the assembly of the Lord?”

Numbers 16:16-17
16
And Moses said to Korah, “As for you and all your congregation, be present tomorrow before the Lord, you and they and Aaron, 17 and let each one of you take his censer and put incense on it and each one of you present his censer before the Lord, two hundred fifty censers, you also, and Aaron, each his censer.”

Numbers 16:28-30
28
And Moses said, “This is how you shall know that the Lord has sent me to do all these works; it has not been of my own accord: 29 If these people die a natural death or if a natural fate comes on them, then the Lord has not sent me. 30 But if the Lord creates something new and the ground opens its mouth and swallows them up, with all that belongs to them, and they go down alive into Sheol, then you shall know that these men have despised the Lord.”

Numbers 16:35
35
And fire came out from the Lord and consumed the two hundred fifty men offering the incense.

Isaiah 66:20-21
20
They shall bring all your kindred from all the nations as an offering to the Lord, on horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and on mules, and on dromedaries, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, says the Lord, just as the Israelites bring a grain offering in a clean vessel to the house of the Lord. 21 And I will also take some of them as priests and as Levites, says the Lord.
andand as Levites, says the Lord. as Levites, says the Lo
 
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