Who did Jesus give Himself a ransom for ?

[Reformedguy]

Strawman , no one is saved apart from faith and repentance.

Or a ransom being paid. So if its paid for all then how come all are not saved?

 

[Reformedguy]

J3:16

Where did I mention ransom being used in my post?

Why pay the ransom then? Second time

 

[Kampioen]

So one is saved by following, by "accepting." Anything else to check off your to do list? Problem is nothing in biblical Gospel preaching tells us following and accepting saves us.

No. Just a to do list of one, ie humility. Then God does the saving, not us.

 

[Christian]

Or a ransom being paid. So if its paid for all then how come all are not saved?

Choice , one can reject it

you can buy me a car and pay for it and I can say no thanks .

 

[Reformedguy]

Choice , one can reject it

Choice , one can reject it

you can buy me a car and pay for it and I can say no thanks .

Why pay a ransom the captor does not want paid?

Why would I buy you a car you dont want??

 

[Theo1689]

Choice , one can reject it

you can buy me a car and pay for it and I can say no thanks .

Nope.
It's still in your name.

 

[Kampioen]

Why pay a ransom the captor does not want paid?

Why would I buy you a car you dont want??

Those things have happened.

 

[Reformedguy]

Those things have happened.

That does not answer the question. Why pay the ransom for a captive who prefers to remain captive?

 

[Christian]

Nope.
It's still in your name.

Fallacy alert 🚨

 

[LeeH]

That does not answer the question. Why pay the ransom for a captive who prefers to remain captive?

What wages does God pay you in for your sin?

 

[Reformedguy]

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What wages does God pay you in for your sin?

What wages does God pay you in for your sin?

Lee, answering a question with a question? Why you pay a ransom who prefers to remain captive?

 

[Reformedguy]

Fallacy alert 🚨

Ad hom ad hom! LOL

 

[Christian]

Lee, answering a question with a question? Why you pay a ransom who prefers to remain captive?

Ask the ransomed slave the question .

 

[Kampioen]

Nope.
It's still in your name.

It doesn't have to be a car. It could be a tractor. It can still be rejected.

 

[Reformedguy]

Ask the ransomed slave the question .

I'm asking you. Why pay a ransom for someone who prefers to remain captive?

 

[LeeH]

Lee, answering a question with a question? Why you pay a ransom who prefers to remain captive?

Lets establish what the ransom is that had to be paid and then we can both agree if it was all paid or just a bit.

What wages does God pay sinners in for their sin? Starts with D....

When you have figured the answer, ask now if it was paid in full and satisfied.

 

[Reformedguy]

Lets establish what the ransom is that had to be paid and then we can both agree if it was all paid or just a bit.



What wages does God pay sinners in for their sin? Starts with D....



When you have figured the answer, ask now if it was paid in full and satisfied.

Lets establish what the ransom is that had to be paid and then we can both agree if it was all paid or just a bit.

What wages does God pay sinners in for their sin? Starts with D....

When you have figured the answer, ask now if it was paid in full and satisfied.

No Lee. When my question is adressed I will gladly address yours. Your simply dodging/

Why would He pay a ransom for those who prefer to remain captive?

 

[LeeH]

No Lee. When my question is adressed I will gladly address yours. Your simply dodging/

Dodging? lol, I told you the ransom was paid, they refuse to leave their captivity, the bible is clear on that. They want to remain in sin. Is that not so?

Now I have answered your question, you may not like the answer, but that is my answer.

Now answer mine.

 

[Reformedguy]

Dodging? lol, I told you the ransom was paid, they refuse to leave their captivity, the bible is clear on that. They want to remain in sin. Is that not so?



Now I have answered your question, you may not like the answer, but that is my answer.



Now answer mine.

Dodging? lol, I told you the ransom was paid, they refuse to leave their captivity, the bible is clear on that. They want to remain in sin. Is that not so?

Now I have answered your question, you may not like the answer, but that is my answer.

Now answer mine.

I know what you told me. I need you to answer why Christ would pay a ransom for those who prefer to remain captive? Your dodging

 

[preacher4truth]

No. Just a to do list of one, ie humility. Then God does the saving, not us.

So one is saved by "following", and by "accepting," and now you add "humility?" So I must add that no one is saved by humility either.

Anything else to check off your to-do list? You've added two things since beginning our discourse.

The problem again is nothing in biblical Gospel preaching tells us following, accepting, or humility saves us.