Who did Jesus give Himself a ransom for ?

Carbon

Carbon

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Kampioen said:
But they don't always follow through. You can buy everyone's ticket in full but it doesn't mean they all accept it.
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Well if they don’t follow through, it just proves they are not his sheep.

But to the sheep, those whose random has been paid. They will come.
Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life, and we have believed, and have come to know, that you are the Holy One of God.” John. 6.
 
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Slyzr

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Carbon said:
Amen bro!

it’s about Jesus, not man!
But some don’t see it that way.
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Nope ......

Then you got Jesus dying for no one can be.

WHO PAID FOR NO ONE TO EVER BE.

AND YOU BETTER NOT SAY JESUS.

Who paid the ransome?
 
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Kampioen

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armylngst said:
It doesn't mean that we aren't part of a machine and have libertarian thought. We don't believe that, because some of us understand logical arguments made that show that one can have Calvin, and not be robots. Yet, since everyone wishes to keep God crushed to the ground, one cannot allow those kinds of thoughts.
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Do we have any libertarian thought whatsoever? If not then our argument is God arguing with Himself.
 
Leatherneck0311

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Carbon said:
He died for his bride. The church. Those given him by the Father. The elect.
How’s that?
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And no one in that church was a sinner before they got saved ? Jesus died for those that humbled themself before God, acknowledged their sins against God, believed the conviction of the Holy Spirit, and placed their faith in Jesus. How’s that ?
 
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Kampioen

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Carbon said:
Well if they don’t follow through, it just proves they are not his sheep.

But to the sheep, those whose random has been paid. They will come.
Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life, and we have believed, and have come to know, that you are the Holy One of God.” John. 6.
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It doesn't prove that the nonsheep didn't have their ransom paid. People weren't automatically saved just because Christ died.
 
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Carbon

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Leatherneck0311 said:
And no one in that church was a sinner before they got saved ? Jesus died for those that humbled themself before God, acknowledged their sins against God, believed the conviction of the Holy Spirit, and placed their faith in Jesus. How’s that ?
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How’s that? Poor and unscriptural.
 
Carbon

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Carbon

Carbon

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Kampioen said:
It doesn't prove that the no sheep didn't have their ransom paid. People weren't automatically saved just because Christ died.
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Are you trying to tell me that Jesus’s sacrifice was a probable sacrifice? He was crucified in the hope that lost sinners would come to God and ask to be saved, then he could save them?
 
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Slyzr

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Carbon said:
Since I can’t say Jesus (but bought and sold? Really) Please give me a list of names that satisfies you.

thanks 🙂
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What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and foreight his soul.

At this point that is an extrapulation.

But IMO .... Jesus was not a soul salesman.

Who is buying and trading the souls of men? (probably not men)

Rev 18:13

Anyway ....... this is not going anywhere.
 
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