Who is the boss?

Truther

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Come on Truther, both of us interpret John 6:38 as: not Jesus' human will but the Divine will owned by God the Father. Given everything else Scripture teaches, it was someone else's will while also being his own will.

God Bless
Oh no, the double will/1 entity doctrine rears it's ugly head.
 

Anthony

Member
Jesus' God was his boss and manifested to humans from inside him.


19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
The Boss is The Father of Israel and The Son represented Israel as the true spiritual Seed of The Father.

The Word of God must rightly be divided.

The Father and The Son depict everlasting Covenant relationship between YHWH and Israel. If anyone doesn't understand this then he/she is not part of Israel nor in covenant relationship with YHWH.
 

Anthony

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Right, the trinity makes no sense, nor oneness for that matter.

God never created 2 wills and 2 minds within His state of being.
Yes Christianity and their 'isms' don't make any sense but then neither do you being the part of that system.

Scriptures teach The One Who came as The Son in flesh is none other than YHWH of OT Who had visible form in contrast to YHWH Who is utter transcendent.
It's YHWH in visible form spoke as The Father as well as on behalf of The Father because Transcendent YHWH can't be seen, heard or approached by any creature.

So there was only One Speaker in OT and the same Speaker is also in NT. He revealed The Father to His Covenant people.

And again the scriptures don't teach about there being multiple Persons in God nor that The Father and The Son are two distinct Persons.

No one can ever pray directly to The Father nor can pray to The Holy Spirit. All prayers are only addressed to The Son of God Who is the only Mediator. He is the only link/bridge between creation and transcendence.

All these 'isms' of Christianity falls short of true understanding.

The Visible form YHWH was in and came as The only Spiritual Seed (Son of God) wasn't created and stamped as God. If you believe this - it's not based on scriptures. He didn't receive His body of flesh from Mary but rather used her womb for His supernatural birth as decreed by Him in OT. All the trash theologies that Christendom has taught will bring people to utter destruction.
 

Truther

Member
The Boss is The Father of Israel and The Son represented Israel as the true spiritual Seed of The Father.

The Word of God must rightly be divided.

The Father and The Son depict everlasting Covenant relationship between YHWH and Israel. If anyone doesn't understand this then he/she is not part of Israel nor in covenant relationship with YHWH.
The son represented Israel?

That is silly.

The son came to save them.
 

Truther

Member
Yes Christianity and their 'isms' don't make any sense but then neither do you being the part of that system.

Scriptures teach The One Who came as The Son in flesh is none other than YHWH of OT Who had visible form in contrast to YHWH Who is utter transcendent.
It's YHWH in visible form spoke as The Father as well as on behalf of The Father because Transcendent YHWH can't be seen, heard or approached by any creature.

So there was only One Speaker in OT and the same Speaker is also in NT. He revealed The Father to His Covenant people.

And again the scriptures don't teach about there being multiple Persons in God nor that The Father and The Son are two distinct Persons.

No one can ever pray directly to The Father nor can pray to The Holy Spirit. All prayers are only addressed to The Son of God Who is the only Mediator. He is the only link/bridge between creation and transcendence.

All these 'isms' of Christianity falls short of true understanding.

The Visible form YHWH was in and came as The only Spiritual Seed (Son of God) wasn't created and stamped as God. If you believe this - it's not based on scriptures. He didn't receive His body of flesh from Mary but rather used her womb for His supernatural birth as decreed by Him in OT. All the trash theologies that Christendom has taught will bring people to utter destruction.
I am part of the 1st century Christianity.

Who's part are you?
 

Truther

Member
To you because you are not listening.



Trinitarians don't teach or believe such. When are you going to start listening?


God Bless
You just said 1/3rd of God has 2 minds and 2 wills.

Now combine that with the other 2 minds and 2 wills you have 4 minds and 4 wills in the Godhead.

Yikes.
 

Truther

Member
Only you would refuse to listen as to assert such nonsense.

God Bless
I am the one that asks the questions that are taboo to your beliefs.

Someone around here has to do everyone's thinking.

Someday you will thank me for thinking about the little incarnationist cliche's for you, and scrutinizing them for you.
 

Anthony

Member
I am part of the 1st century Christianity.

Who's part are you?
You are misinformed as there was nothing like Christianity existing in the first century. YHWH dealt mainly with the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Israel as whole transitioned from flesh to spirit under new Covenant and spiritual kingdom under Christ was established. One can only be partakers of Christ being part of that Israel.
 

Anthony

Member
The son represented Israel?

That is silly.

The son came to save them.
He came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Heb 8:8-11 tells us New Covenant is made with the divided houses of Judah and Israel -united under one Israel with the Torah no longer on tablets of heartened hearts but in the hearts of flesh. That's spiritual kingdom of YHWH.

Silly is Christianity which has no idea of Who The Son of God is.

He is the true Israel- the only spiritual Son of God.

Exod 4:22: Hos 11:1; Mat 2:15; Rom 8:29 - many more.

Heb 8:8-11 tells us that the transitioned Israel will know their God under Christ.

It's Christ transitioned them from flesh to spirit.

That's why Christendom is lost in their unscriptural 'isms'
 

Truther

Member
You are misinformed as there was nothing like Christianity existing in the first century. YHWH dealt mainly with the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Israel as whole transitioned from flesh to spirit under new Covenant and spiritual kingdom under Christ was established. One can only be partakers of Christ being part of that Israel.
Actually, it has never been about ancient physical and national Israel, concerning us.

It is about future national Israel which has a promise/covenant to the fathers that is yet to be fulfilled....and we are only partially now, adopted into their future covenant.(Jer 31, etc)
 

Truther

Member
He came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Heb 8:8-11 tells us New Covenant is made with the divided houses of Judah and Israel -united under one Israel with the Torah no longer on tablets of heartened hearts but in the hearts of flesh. That's spiritual kingdom of YHWH.

Silly is Christianity which has no idea of Who The Son of God is.

He is the true Israel- the only spiritual Son of God.

Exod 4:22: Hos 11:1; Mat 2:15; Rom 8:29 - many more.

Heb 8:8-11 tells us that the transitioned Israel will know their God under Christ.

It's Christ transitioned them from flesh to spirit.

That's why Christendom is lost in their unscriptural 'isms'
We are adopted into national Israel's future covenant.

There is only 1 covenant to the fathers and it has not yet fully come to pass until Christ returns to save them from extinction.(Zech 14, etc)

It has only been revealed to the church in a partial way now, but when Christ returns to save every single one of them from the least to the greatest to fulfill His promise, our blinders(dark glasses) will fall off and the church's partial gifts will cease(be unnecessary).

This is exactly what the Bible teaches us about who we are and who they are.
 
Like how a living being has 2 minds and 2 wills, which staggers the imagination?

Who said anything about a living being having 2 minds and 2 wills? We have a person with two beings each of which have a mind and a will. See, you are so ignorant this entire discussion is nothing but a joke.

God Bless
 
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