WHO IS THE HOLY SPIRIT (2)

Pipiripi

Active member
This is now after Pentecost, when Jesus is back in heaven and has received the full promise of the Holy Spirit from the Father, which Jesus HIMSELF in turn gives to the disciples. The Father didn't give Jesus 'another being', that is just ridiculous. No, God the Father, the source of all things (1Corinthians 8:6) gave Jesus HIS OWN divine Spirit, which is His very own life and power!

Matthew 10:20

"Those who were bowed before the throne would offer up their prayers and look to Jesus; then He would look to His Father, and appear to be pleading with Him. A light would come FROM THE FATHER TO THE SON AND FROM THE SON TO THE PPRAYING COMPANY. Then I saw an exceeding bright light come FROM THE FATHER TO THE SON, AND FROM THE SON IT WAVED OVER THE PEOPLE BEFORE THE THRONE ... Those who rose up with Jesus would send up their faith to Him in the holiest, and pray, 'My Father, GIVE US THY SPIRIT.' Then Jesus would BREATHE UPON THEM THE HOLY GHOST. In that breath was light, power, and much love, joy, and peace." (Earlier Writings, p. 54-55)

Acts 1:1-2. Acts 2:32-33. Titus 3:4-6. Galatians 4:6. 2 Corinthians 3:17. Philippians 1:19.

This is the same Spirit which guided the prophets in the Old Testament.

1 Peter 1:10-11

The Holy Spirit is the LIFE and POWER of Jesus Christ Himself, which He has received from God the Father.

"CHRIST declared that after his ascension, he would send to his church, as his crowning gift, the Comforter, who was to take his place. This Comforter is the Holy Spirit, - THE SOUL OF HIS LIFE, the efficacy of His church, the light and life of the world. WITH HIS SPIRIT CHRIST SENDS a reconciling influence and a power that takes away sin." (The Review and Herald, May 19, 1904 par. 1)

"The influence of the Holy Spirit IS THE LIFE OF CHRIST in the soul. We do not now see Christ and speak to Him, but HIS HOLY SPIRIT is just as near us in one place as another. It works in and through every one who receives Christ. Those who know the fruit of the Spirit,-'love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith." (Bible Echo, June 17, 1901 par. 6)

It is Christ who 'dwell in our hearts' (Ephesians 3:17). It is Christ who lives in us (Galatians 2:20). It is Christ in us, that 'Spirit' which gives us life (Romans 8:10-11). And as Paul confirmed in Galatians 4:6, God was to send the Spirit of HIS SON to us, not some other third being. Which is why Paul also said in 2Corinthians 3:17, that the LORD [Christ] is that Spirit.

This is so important friend. We need the Spirit of Christ, as the Holy Spirit, not 'another spirit being'.

Romans 8:9

The Holy Spirit that Christians have in them is NOT 'another third being'. We have the Spirit of God the Father, which is manifested through His Son, Jesus Christ.

We do not need a being who cannot sympathize with our infirmities. We do need a being who cannot understand what it's like to be tempted in this mortal, sinful flesh. We need a being who knows how to deliver us from sin and temptation. We need a being who gained the victory over sin and knows what it takes to live a perfect life in obedience to, and full dependance upon God the Father. We need JESUS CHRIST as our Comforter! And the Bible confirms that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ. He is the one who comes to us and helps us.

"It is not safe to catch the spirit of another. We want the Holy Spirit, which is Jesus Christ." (E.White, letter 66, April 10, 1894, par.17-18)

"The Saviour is our Comforter. This I have proved Him to be." (8 Manuscript Releases, p.49)

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rod.ney

Well-known member
This is now after Pentecost, when Jesus is back in heaven and has received the full promise of the Holy Spirit from the Father, which Jesus HIMSELF in turn gives to the disciples. The Father didn't give Jesus 'another being', that is just ridiculous. No, God the Father, the source of all things (1Corinthians 8:6) gave Jesus HIS OWN divine Spirit, which is His very own life and power!

Matthew 10:20

"Those who were bowed before the throne would offer up their prayers and look to Jesus; then He would look to His Father, and appear to be pleading with Him. A light would come FROM THE FATHER TO THE SON AND FROM THE SON TO THE PPRAYING COMPANY. Then I saw an exceeding bright light come FROM THE FATHER TO THE SON, AND FROM THE SON IT WAVED OVER THE PEOPLE BEFORE THE THRONE ... Those who rose up with Jesus would send up their faith to Him in the holiest, and pray, 'My Father, GIVE US THY SPIRIT.' Then Jesus would BREATHE UPON THEM THE HOLY GHOST. In that breath was light, power, and much love, joy, and peace." (Earlier Writings, p. 54-55)

Acts 1:1-2. Acts 2:32-33. Titus 3:4-6. Galatians 4:6. 2 Corinthians 3:17. Philippians 1:19.

This is the same Spirit which guided the prophets in the Old Testament.

1 Peter 1:10-11

The Holy Spirit is the LIFE and POWER of Jesus Christ Himself, which He has received from God the Father.

"CHRIST declared that after his ascension, he would send to his church, as his crowning gift, the Comforter, who was to take his place. This Comforter is the Holy Spirit, - THE SOUL OF HIS LIFE, the efficacy of His church, the light and life of the world. WITH HIS SPIRIT CHRIST SENDS a reconciling influence and a power that takes away sin." (The Review and Herald, May 19, 1904 par. 1)

"The influence of the Holy Spirit IS THE LIFE OF CHRIST in the soul. We do not now see Christ and speak to Him, but HIS HOLY SPIRIT is just as near us in one place as another. It works in and through every one who receives Christ. Those who know the fruit of the Spirit,-'love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith." (Bible Echo, June 17, 1901 par. 6)

It is Christ who 'dwell in our hearts' (Ephesians 3:17). It is Christ who lives in us (Galatians 2:20). It is Christ in us, that 'Spirit' which gives us life (Romans 8:10-11). And as Paul confirmed in Galatians 4:6, God was to send the Spirit of HIS SON to us, not some other third being. Which is why Paul also said in 2Corinthians 3:17, that the LORD [Christ] is that Spirit.

This is so important friend. We need the Spirit of Christ, as the Holy Spirit, not 'another spirit being'.

Romans 8:9

The Holy Spirit that Christians have in them is NOT 'another third being'. We have the Spirit of God the Father, which is manifested through His Son, Jesus Christ.

We do not need a being who cannot sympathize with our infirmities. We do need a being who cannot understand what it's like to be tempted in this mortal, sinful flesh. We need a being who knows how to deliver us from sin and temptation. We need a being who gained the victory over sin and knows what it takes to live a perfect life in obedience to, and full dependance upon God the Father. We need JESUS CHRIST as our Comforter! And the Bible confirms that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ. He is the one who comes to us and helps us.

"It is not safe to catch the spirit of another. We want the Holy Spirit, which is Jesus Christ." (E.White, letter 66, April 10, 1894, par.17-18)

"The Saviour is our Comforter. This I have proved Him to be." (8 Manuscript Releases, p.49)

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ONLY JW's say the Holy Spirit is just God's power and NOT a Divine Person! Acts 5:3-4 Proves that the Holy Spirit being lied to ( You can't lie to an Impersonal power ) is telling a lie to God ( the Holy Spirit )! All Three ( FSHS ) are Divine Persons of the GOD Head ( the TRINITY ), as all Three are Individually called God in John 1:1 ; Acts 5:3-4 ; and Heb.1:8 and the ONE GOD ( TRINITY ) in Gen.1:26 says this " US & OUR " concerning Himself! Thus that's EXACLY why we get Baptized in the NAME of the Father, Son, & Holy Spirit as per Matt.28:19! Case closed!
 

Pipiripi

Active member
ONLY JW's say the Holy Spirit is just God's power and NOT a Divine Person! Acts 5:3-4 Proves that the Holy Spirit being lied to ( You can't lie to an Impersonal power ) is telling a lie to God ( the Holy Spirit )! All Three ( FSHS ) are Divine Persons of the GOD Head ( the TRINITY ), as all Three are Individually called God in John 1:1 ; Acts 5:3-4 ; and Heb.1:8 and the ONE GOD ( TRINITY ) in Gen.1:26 says this " US & OUR " concerning Himself! Thus that's EXACLY why we get Baptized in the NAME of the Father, Son, & Holy Spirit as per Matt.28:19! Case closed!
Again, stop following man's teaching by taking verses here and there or take on verse and makes their own stories.

Read John 1:1-16.

The Bible interprets itself my friend. Satan love when people pluck verses here and there out of the story, and makes their own stories like all the other teachings that are not in the Bible like the Trinity doctrine and secret rapture and many more. One wrong beliefs makes all the other things that you see wrong.

Did the apostles have worship the Holy Spirit? Did Jesus has pray to the Holy Spirit? Did God the Father has spoken to your god holy spirit?
Show me in the Bible the same way how you takes verses here and there the way your wrong teachers has teach you.
I will read the word written in the Bible "God Holy Spirit"
And if you cannot find it, is time to wake up. Because Paul has wrote something for the sleepers in Christ. Galatians 1:1-10.
 

rod.ney

Well-known member
Again, stop following man's teaching by taking verses here and there or take on verse and makes their own stories.

Read John 1:1-16.

The Bible interprets itself my friend. Satan love when people pluck verses here and there out of the story, and makes their own stories like all the other teachings that are not in the Bible like the Trinity doctrine and secret rapture and many more. One wrong beliefs makes all the other things that you see wrong.

Did the apostles have worship the Holy Spirit? Did Jesus has pray to the Holy Spirit? Did God the Father has spoken to your god holy spirit?
Show me in the Bible the same way how you takes verses here and there the way your wrong teachers has teach you.
I will read the word written in the Bible "God Holy Spirit"
And if you cannot find it, is time to wake up. Because Paul has wrote something for the sleepers in Christ. Galatians 1:1-10.
Posting verses of scripture ( GOD's say so ) on the SAME Topic ( Who is called God for this Topic ) is following GOD's teachings in the Bible and NOT man's teachings! Your say so CONTRADICTS GOD's say so in Acts 5:3-4 when you say ( Man's word - Twisting as per 2 Peter 3:16 ) that the Holy Spirit is NOT called God ( the 3rd Divine Person - not a nonpersonal power that GOD uses )! The Holy Spirit was Lied to in Acts 5:3! FYI you can't Lie to a nonpersonal force or power ( like a battery or engine in your car etc. )! The Holy Spirit is in FACT the 3rd Divine Person of the GOD Head ( TRINITY - FSHS as listed in Matt.28:19 ) and He was Lied to and called God in Acts 5:3-4! Case closed on your Twisting of those scriptures! I pray to the TRINITY ( FSHS ) in Jesus's name because He is ( God-Man as per John 1:1+14 ) the BRIDGE ( Mediator - 1 Tim.2:5 ) between GOD and Man as scripture tells us, since He is the ONLY ONE who is both fully God ( as the former WORD in John 1:1 ) and fully human as a man ( the Flesh the Word became in John 1:14 )! Thus it's time for you ( NOT Me ) to wake up and STOP contradicting GOD's say so in His scriptures that I post to rebuke your say so ( Man's word that the Holy Spirit is not one of the 3 Divine persons of the GOD Head ) as per 2 Tim.3:16! How about the Son ( Jesus Christ ) - you will Never find this quote " God the Son " in the Bible, BUT God the Father calls that Son ( Jesus Christ ) " O God " in Hebrews 1:8 after ALL His created angels WORSIP Him in verse 6! Jesus Himself in John 8:58 claimed to be the Great " I AM " ( God ) of Exodus 3:14, who spoke to Moses in a burning bush! That was to prove to those nonbelievers ( like you ) that He pre-existed as God the WORD in John 1:1 and BECAME Flesh ( God-Man ) as Jesus Christ in John 1:14! Thus that is EXACTLY why He told those nonbelievers that He personally knew Abraham BEFORE Abraham was born! So wake up and Believe GOD's say so in those posted scriptures! ALL scriptures on the SAME Topic will NEVER contradict one another!! Case closed!
 

Pipiripi

Active member
Posting verses of scripture ( GOD's say so ) on the SAME Topic ( Who is called God for this Topic ) is following GOD's teachings in the Bible and NOT man's teachings! Your say so CONTRADICTS GOD's say so in Acts 5:3-4 when you say ( Man's word - Twisting as per 2 Peter 3:16 ) that the Holy Spirit is NOT called God ( the 3rd Divine Person - not a nonpersonal power that GOD uses )! The Holy Spirit was Lied to in Acts 5:3! FYI you can't Lie to a nonpersonal force or power ( like a battery or engine in your car etc. )! The Holy Spirit is in FACT the 3rd Divine Person of the GOD Head ( TRINITY - FSHS as listed in Matt.28:19 ) and He was Lied to and called God in Acts 5:3-4! Case closed on your Twisting of those scriptures! I pray to the TRINITY ( FSHS ) in Jesus's name because He is ( God-Man as per John 1:1+14 ) the BRIDGE ( Mediator - 1 Tim.2:5 ) between GOD and Man as scripture tells us, since He is the ONLY ONE who is both fully God ( as the former WORD in John 1:1 ) and fully human as a man ( the Flesh the Word became in John 1:14 )! Thus it's time for you ( NOT Me ) to wake up and STOP contradicting GOD's say so in His scriptures that I post to rebuke your say so ( Man's word that the Holy Spirit is not one of the 3 Divine persons of the GOD Head ) as per 2 Tim.3:16! How about the Son ( Jesus Christ ) - you will Never find this quote " God the Son " in the Bible, BUT God the Father calls that Son ( Jesus Christ ) " O God " in Hebrews 1:8 after ALL His created angels WORSIP Him in verse 6! Jesus Himself in John 8:58 claimed to be the Great " I AM " ( God ) of Exodus 3:14, who spoke to Moses in a burning bush! That was to prove to those nonbelievers ( like you ) that He pre-existed as God the WORD in John 1:1 and BECAME Flesh ( God-Man ) as Jesus Christ in John 1:14! Thus that is EXACTLY why He told those nonbelievers that He personally knew Abraham BEFORE Abraham was born! So wake up and Believe GOD's say so in those posted scriptures! ALL scriptures on the SAME Topic will NEVER contradict one another!! Case closed!
Go read all my threads i hope that you can get all of our true BIBLICAL teachings.
 

rod.ney

Well-known member
Go read all my threads i hope that you can get all of our true BIBLICAL teachings.
I read them and FYI, none of them contradict the scriptures that I posted! Thus this still stands -------------
rod.ney said:
Posting verses of scripture ( GOD's say so ) on the SAME Topic ( Who is called God for this Topic ) is following GOD's teachings in the Bible and NOT man's teachings! Your say so CONTRADICTS GOD's say so in Acts 5:3-4 when you say ( Man's word - Twisting as per 2 Peter 3:16 ) that the Holy Spirit is NOT called God ( the 3rd Divine Person - not a nonpersonal power that GOD uses )! The Holy Spirit was Lied to in Acts 5:3! FYI you can't Lie to a nonpersonal force or power ( like a battery or engine in your car etc. )! The Holy Spirit is in FACT the 3rd Divine Person of the GOD Head ( TRINITY - FSHS as listed in Matt.28:19 ) and He was Lied to and called God in Acts 5:3-4! Case closed on your Twisting of those scriptures! I pray to the TRINITY ( FSHS ) in Jesus's name because He is ( God-Man as per John 1:1+14 ) the BRIDGE ( Mediator - 1 Tim.2:5 ) between GOD and Man as scripture tells us, since He is the ONLY ONE who is both fully God ( as the former WORD in John 1:1 ) and fully human as a man ( the Flesh the Word became in John 1:14 )! Thus it's time for you ( NOT Me ) to wake up and STOP contradicting GOD's say so in His scriptures that I post to rebuke your say so ( Man's word that the Holy Spirit is not one of the 3 Divine persons of the GOD Head ) as per 2 Tim.3:16! How about the Son ( Jesus Christ ) - you will Never find this quote " God the Son " in the Bible, BUT God the Father calls that Son ( Jesus Christ ) " O God " in Hebrews 1:8 after ALL His created angels WORSIP Him in verse 6! Jesus Himself in John 8:58 claimed to be the Great " I AM " ( God ) of Exodus 3:14, who spoke to Moses in a burning bush! That was to prove to those nonbelievers ( like you ) that He pre-existed as God the WORD in John 1:1 and BECAME Flesh ( God-Man ) as Jesus Christ in John 1:14! Thus that is EXACTLY why He told those nonbelievers that He personally knew Abraham BEFORE Abraham was born! So wake up and Believe GOD's say so in those posted scriptures! ALL scriptures on the SAME Topic will NEVER contradict one another!! Case closed!
 
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