Who Justifieth the Ungodly

ReverendRV

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Yes, it's a Damnable Heresy; Sola Fide!
@civic @TomFL Loving Sola Gratia so very much is not a bad thing; unless that love causes someone to reject Justification through Sola Fide...

The reverse is true; we can't love Sola Fide so much that the Gospel becomes God's only Grace; like Professor Flowers teaches...


IE extremes...
 
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TomFL

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@civic @TomFL Loving Sola Gratia so very much is not a bad thing; unless that love causes someone to reject Justification through Sola Fide...

The reverse is true; we can't love Sola Fide so much that the Gospel becomes God's only Grace; like Professor Flowers teaches...


IE extremes...
Uh you are misrepresenting Professor Flowers as he would state sending Christ was an act of grace, inspiring the apostles an act of grace, calling men to preach the gospel an act of grace, The conviction of the Holy Spirit an act of grace
 

ReverendRV

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Uh you are misrepresenting Professor Flowers as he would state sending Christ was an act of grace, inspiring the apostles an act of grace, calling men to preach the gospel an act of grace, The conviction of the Holy Spirit an act of grace
It would be great if you had a Link to support that...
 

brightfame52

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So Paul declares that the elect having been Justified by Christ blood, shall be delivered from the wrath to come..

2ndly, Paul teaches that by the righteous act of one [ Christ] Justification comes upon all men, that is, all men in Him at the time of His righteous act. observe Rom 5:18b

18Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

This reads in exact contrast with the results of the one who made offence [ Adam] resulting in Gods condemnation and Judgment. For each of the heads brought about a Divine Judicial verdict on all those whom they represented. By the righteousness or righteous act of Jesus Christ, meaning His death, the free gift of Justification of life came upon [ not was offered or made available] but came upon all men [ in Christ at the time , his seed, as Adam had a seed in him] unto Justification of life..

The Justification unto life by the right act of one, called down the free Gift of Justification of life..

Thats why Paul wrote earlier in Rom 3:24

24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

The redemption that is in Christ Jesus, again pointing to His redeeming blood and or death..

So we know Paul did not mean in Rom 5:1 that the elect are Justified by their act of believing or Faith, because it again contradicts Paul's overall teaching of this subject, and would make void the accomplishment of the redeeming death and blood of Jesus Christ. and that's what satan and his messengers desire to do, to take the crown from Jesus head, and place it upon the head of man..
 
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guest1

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So lets talk about it[post 17] unless you scared.
define faith.

no point in talking with you until you are willing and able to define the words that you use, until then talking with you is much like trying to understand someone speaking in tongues , a foreign language.

this must be what the tower a babel was like when God confused their languages. your posts are much like the T.O.B. - unknown tongue.

hope this helps !!!
 

brightfame52

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define faith.

no point in talking with you until you are willing and able to define the words that you use, until then talking with you is much like trying to understand someone speaking in tongues , a foreign language.

this must be what the tower a babel was like when God confused their languages. your posts are much like the T.O.B. - unknown tongue.

hope this helps !!!
Evasion. You scared !
 

ReverendRV

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define faith.

no point in talking with you until you are willing and able to define the words that you use, until then talking with you is much like trying to understand someone speaking in tongues , a foreign language.

this must be what the tower a babel was like when God confused their languages. your posts are much like the T.O.B. - unknown tongue.

hope this helps !!!
Faith is the substance of things Hoped for, and Evidence of things not seen...
 

ReverendRV

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Would you like to discuss the OP points ?
No, I know it's a waste of Time. I'm not spending extra energy with people who I know don't want to try, because I'm having Surgery tomorrow; two bones being taken out of a foot. I do support the efforts of those who really try; like Civic...

Even TomL tries harder than you...
 
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