We've been through this OS. The NT admits Jesus was limited.Your God is too small. My God is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent. There is nothing impossible for Him.
I wasn't talking about Jesus. I said your God [singular] is too small. And while Jesus was limited, while in the flesh, He was able to heal the sick, raise the dead, walk on water, feed 9000 people with only few a fish and loaves of bread.We've been through this OS. The NT admits Jesus was limited.
Your gods are capable of imperfection, sin, corruption, etc., since they're capable of everything. Good job.
How is that supposed to be an argument? Many men lived before Abraham. Actually, Enoch was before Abraham also and there is no record of him dying. So according to your understanding, Enoch must also be God.John 8:58
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
You are not making any sense. You just affirmed that Your God Jesus was limited...If Jesus was limited, he cannot be the almighty God.I wasn't talking about Jesus. I said your God [singular] is too small. And while Jesus was limited, while in the flesh, He was able to heal the sick, raise the dead, walk on water, feed 9000 people with only few a fish and loaves of bread.
I know what was meant as scripture says.How is that supposed to be an argument? Many men lived before Abraham. Actually, Enoch was before Abraham also and there is no record of him dying. So according to your understanding, Enoch must also be God.
There are logical contradictions which have nothing to do with the limitations of your mind.If my mind is limited, how can I be sure I know what is logically impossible?
You can get a logic book, set up truth tables and figure things out.I can't.
He chose to be! Read your Bible and quit all this nonsensical stuff that proves ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Just meaningless bloviation. Why don't you do some real Bible study.You are not making any sense. You just affirmed that Your God Jesus was limited...If Jesus was limited, he cannot be the almighty God.
My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
I was. You prove my point. He also bows to my God.I wasn't talking about Jesus.
Actually my God isn't confined to the physical so that attribute belongs to your gods.I said your God [singular] is too small.
Rotfl... My God created everything, including Jesus. And Jesus bows to my God.And while Jesus was limited, while in the flesh, He was able to heal the sick, raise the dead, walk on water, feed 9000 people with only few a fish and loaves of bread.
You don't even understand your OT scriptures. YHWH is revealed as a Man in several scriptures:A man with knees and a tongue. Got it!
Well, Jesus definitely doesn't fit this description.
Tanakh is in 3 parts.
This is purely misuse of scriptures like God is not a man that He should... And Yet YHWH in the form of Man. You can make anything of scriptures according to your fancies. That's why we must always look for harmony of scriptures.Funny, God's nature is all-knowing, ever-living, perfect, etc. Jesus is none of these.
Seeing that you brought up purification of sins, Numbers 19 discusses this for being defiled for contact with the dead.
Prove from the scriptures that the titles of the Father and The Son existed before the beginning of creation.God is our Father...
Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
God sent Jesus to be the saviour of the world
1 John 4:14
And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
The Deity of The Son can't be apart from The Father. If God is The Father, The Son is the true Israel, the Firstborn Son.
If The Son is God then He is The Ordinal Last ( Father being The Ordinal First) - The Alpha and The Omega which God is.
Ok, show me where what you wrote is written in the scripture... Don't take from the scripture and put it in your own words, then tell me it is from the scripture...quote me the scripture saying those things.
And yet God has no form and told us to teach that to our children, Deut 4:9,12,15,35, at the revelation at Sinai, as He gave the commandments.This is purely misuse of scriptures like God is not a man that He should... And Yet YHWH in the form of Man.
Physical gods are ridiculed.You can make anything of scriptures according to your fancies.
Yes, you must.That's why we must always look for harmony of scriptures.
He is?You don't even understand your OT scriptures. YHWH is revealed as a Man in several scriptures:
It doesn't mention God has the form of a man anywhere in Tanakh. As to the verse above, the voice of God was heard traveling, not that God was walking.Gen 3:8 And they heard the voice of יהוה Elohim walking about in the garden in the cool of the day, and Aḏam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of יהוה Elohim among the trees of the garden.
How can Invisible God walk in the Garden and Adam hide prom His presence if He weren't in the form of Man?
How can your gods not be created if they themselves have physical form? Which of your godhead is the model for the woman?
No, the likeness for man's physical form came from the earth. God was speaking to the earth, wind, water, etc., as these are creative forces and elements of nature that act as angels, Psalm 104:3-4.The plural 'US' and 'OUR' is to show that Elohym is in two dimensions where He is invisible as well as having the form of a Man
Man/angels are called God as well, as His representative, Psalm 8:5, Exodus 7:1, Exodus 21:6,22:8-9, etc.
Because God is likened to one,
Yep, a vision, not reality.
Nothing is mentioned of Melchizedek.YHWH appeared to Isaiah as The Priest after the order of Malkitsedeq with His robe filling the temple.
There's no issue looking at the ark directly.Usually, Levitical High Priest would fill the Most Holy Place with the smoke of the incense so as to not look at the Ark of the covenant directly inorder that he might not die.
No mention of Jesus being offered on the heavenly altar.Here in Isaiah 6, it's the train of His robe filling the Temple - showing that we (as Isaiah) can enter the Most Holy Place having cleansed from the live coal of the Altar (with Yeshua Messiah being already offered on the altar).
Yep. His heavenly glory is likened to that of men on earth, not that He is a man. Solomon sat on YHWH's throne, 1 Chronicles 29:23.He is now The High Priest after the order of Malkitsedeq. He is YHWH Himself as a Man. This is prophetic scripture even mentioned in NT
Ezk 1:26 And above the expanse over their heads was the likeness of a throne, in appearance like a sapphire stone. And on the likeness of the throne was a likeness as the appearance of a man high above it.
So, your gods are like the Mormon gods. That's sad.27 And from the appearance of His waist and upward I saw what looked like glowing metal with the appearance of fire all around within it. And from the appearance of His waist and downward I saw what looked like fire, and brightness all around.
28 As the appearance of a rainbow in a cloud on a rainy day, so was the appearance of the brightness all around it. This was the appearance of the likeness of the esteem of יהוה. And when I saw it, I fell on my face, and I heard a voice of One speaking.
Since you don't believe in the NT, I guarantee you that you are not in a position to understand the truth and be saved by our only Saviour Yeshua HaMashyach.
28 ‘For in him (God) we live, and move, and have our being.’ As some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also his offspring.’
29 Being then the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold, or silver, or stone, engraved by human art and design.
If we are God's offspring, then we outwardly look like Him. But this is not the end but we must be conformed to His spiritual nature that's in Yeshua HaMashyach.
See how YHWH became our Savior:
5 Have this in your mind, which was also in Messiah Yeshua,
6 who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God a thing to be grasped,
7 but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men.
YHWH in the form of a Man (immortal) took on mortality like Adam was in order to be their Savior.
That's how transcendent God (invisible, unapproachable) sent His Son (in mortal flesh because Israel was after the flesh in unending sacrificial system).
In glory to come, Yeshua will be the fullness of the Deity Bodily in all eternity. One cannot demand to see transcendent God which would be rejection of the will of Transcendent God in Yeshua for He is His Permanent face those glorified saints will see and worship Him.