The gentile way was an increasing Christology - Jesus becoming increasingly god-like, until he was believed to be part of the trinity.
I'm not a trinitarian.
I was thinking in a different sense. A person could be resurrected in their original body, injuries and all. This is how Luke and John portray it.
Or a person can be resurrected in a new body. This is what the Jews - the Pharisees anyway - believed.
Or both
My understanding of the resurrection is when the resurrection takes place (1 Thess 4:16-18, 1 Cor 15:50-52) will be all be changed. This includes both good and evil men. Paul goes into depth about the resurrection in. 1 Cor15.
Jesus' resurrection was a change in his natural body.
Also remember what Paul saw on the road to Damascus - a bright light, but Jesus in his original body.
Paul didn't see Jesus in his original material body but with his changed, resurrected spiritual body that never dies.
A little more speculative, but I think Jesus also alluded to this:
Mat 22:30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.
I think he means they will be resurrected in new spiritual bodies that will shine like stars, and physical concerns like sex and marriage will be irrelevant.
https://www.gotquestions.org/the-Way.html
I think we will be resurrected into spiritual bodies and those who are alive at the resurrection will have their natural bodies changed to spiritual bodies.
1 Cor 15:51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
When he says "sleep", he is obviously talking about death. He is saying to his fellow Christians, "We will not all die before the End Times arrive - the dead will be raised in new bodies, but we who are still alive with be transformed, so we too will have new bodies." He is counting himself among those who will be transformed from living to spiritual bodies; hence he though he would be alive at the time.
Those who are alive will have had their material bodies changed or transformed to spiritual bodies.
What is your point?
Paul was preaching the Jewish version to both Jew and gentile - that Jesus was the Jewish messiah, so had to be the seed of David, as you say.
Everyone preaches the "jewish version". I do not know of any believer (except gnostics like
@docphin5 who would claim that Jesus is not a Jew nor Jesus is not the Messiah (Christ).
He undoubtedly did tell Luke that, but over the next few decades beliefs changed, and the gentile version, with Jesus the product of a virgin birth, became popular - at least with gentile Christians - so Luke records that, with the genealogy qualified "as was supposed".
Your assertions continue to be unsupported and speculative.
The gospel of John is actually quite anti-Jewish in a them-and-us sense; the "Jews" are very much seen as a people opposed to Jesus and his followers, rather than a people that included them. Look up the word "jews" in an online Bible.
The "us vs them" were Christ followers vs the Jewish leaders not the Jewish people.
Paul believed everyone (the righteous, anyway) would be resurrected, and the resurrection process would be the same for all. Jesus was special, and singled out to be resurrected first, but what happened to Jesus would happened to everyone. Jesus was the prototype for the process, and Paul uses what happened to Jesus to determine what would happen to everyone else.
Yes
The later gentile view was quite different. To them, what happened to Jesus was unique to him. Jesus was divine, so different rules applied. His resurrection was a one off. The resurrection for the ordinary Christian would be quite different - I would guess you do not even call it resurrection, just going into the afterlife.
More speculation without support. Most believers who believe the Bible is inspired agree with Paul. I don't know what you are talking about when you speak of a later "gentile view".
The Apostle's Creed
I believe in God the Father, Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth:
And in Jesus Christ, his only begotten Son, our Lord:
Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary:
Suffered under Pontius Pilate; was crucified, dead and buried: He descended into hell:
The third day he rose again from the dead:
He ascended into heaven, and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty:
From thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead:
I believe in the Holy Ghost:
I believe in the holy catholic church: the communion of saints:
The forgiveness of sins:
The resurrection of the body:
And the life everlasting. Amen.
It appears that way because they diverged so much that the Jewish way looks like a totally different religion, the religion of the Ebionites. But what Paul believed was much closer to the beliefs of the Ebionites than to modern Christianity (and that is despite the Ebionites rejecting Paul as apostate!).
The Ebionites, from the link you gave me, are the Jews who's teaching Paul found to be incorrect and went to Jerusalem to meet with the leaders and apostles to discuss it. Acts 15.
Those two sentences contradict each other! The reality is that there were lots of conflicting views as different groups tried to understand Jesus in different ways, and each group was constantly dealing with what it considered heretics, i.e., the other groups. As well as adoptionism, others believed Jesus was subordinate to God and created later (Arianism) and still others that the father, son and holy spirit were different manifestations of god (Modalism).
The early church was frequently fighting different heresies that were trying to creep in. Many of the epistles were written in part to refute these heresies. The church leaders were in agreement and when they needed to work things out, they met together to discuss issues. Acts 15.
Jude wrote that there was a common faith.
Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
It is possible his attempts at insurrection got quietly forgotten by authors keen to sell the religion to gentiles, but I will accept that is speculation and there is no evidence to support it....
He was crucified for being the messiah, not for causing insurrection or riots against Roman rule. But it was all sedition against Rome.
The Jews were upset with the accusation that was written over Jesus' head.
Just to be clear, Jesus did not incite active sedition or an uprising against the Romans. There were not attempts at insurrection. Jesus was focused on dying for the sins of the world.
You're a chemist, correct? I find your speculations without some type of evidence uncharacteristic of someone who works in the sciences. Why is that?
