It must have appealed to you at some time.
I'm referring specifically to talking about hell.
I totally enjoy talking about Jesus, so.... there's lots of "appeal" there.
I realized this past Saturday afternoon that I spend so much time talking about Jesus that there's little else I find so enjoyable.
Unbelievers preach the foolishness of the cross? Ah, wording.
No. Brevity. You misunderstood what I stated.
The preaching of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing and the power of God to salvation for those who believe. 1 Corinthians 1:18.
Why would they think the phallic symbol the cross was foolish?
Well, only you and the WTS/JW crew are convinced it's a phallic symbol.
I suppose however I shouldn't be surprised.
It is written in Titus 1.
Tit 1:15-16 WEB 15 To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure; but both their mind and their conscience are defiled. 16 They profess that they know God, but by their deeds they deny him, being abominable, disobedient, and unfit for any good work.
So, if you actually think that the device in which God offered up his son as a sacrifice for sin was a sexual object, wow.... o....k....
I'd say that you have a defiled mind and conscience.
Well, maybe they don't have a reason. They certainly don't need one, but pagan mythology and crusades, inquisitions, would be a good place to start.
At this point, it seems pretty clear that they don't like truth, as Jesus defines it.
They're given plenty to have a reason.
They have spent years disdaining it.
But he leaves that to us. If the unbelievers would rather die than live forever in the Kingdom of God with you, that's their choice and it should be respected. Because it's between them and God. It's none of your business.
I never said it was my business. You know what's scary though..... YHVH says that he made it my business.
Apparently, he thinks it's important to warn people who are perishing about their state before him. You can read this in Ezekiel 33.
So..... my job is to simply present the gospel.
They're the ones who've decided that it's an argument to be won.
Astonishing how much people like arguing about being given a gift.
As Paul says in Romans 6.
Rom 6:23 WEB For the wages of sin is death,
but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
I don't know about you, but I actually like gifts. Since you've previously stated that you are opposed to birthdays and Christmas, I'm guessing that you don't like gifts at all.
Which makes sense since you don't actually believe in Jesus and think his teachings are pagan and his cross is a sexual symbol.
Nonsense. Hell is pagan nonsense.
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Well then! It sure is nice to see that you view the explicit teachings of Jesus as pagan.
Thank you for clarifying your position.
I'm guessing that means you think that Ezekiel 32, and Isaiah 66 were written by pagans too.
Which is rather curious because the Jewish bible actually shows both chapters.
Don't let my opinions deceive me?
Yep. You just got done calling Jesus a pagan. That's pretty impressive for a skeptic who's spent years studying the bible.
So... yes.... don't let your opinions deceive you, as you have so perfectly demonstrated above.
I'm not going to let your opinions deceive me.
also good.
The bible is pretty clear that Jesus is YHVH the Son.
He died on a Roman cross to pay for the sins of the human race to save us from eternal judgment due sin.
So, if you're having a problem with the gospel of Jesus, I'm thinking that it's not my opinions you're having a problem with.
Yes. Like Sodom. Which isn't still burning. It's figurative.
Sounds like an opinion.
Did you actually have evidence to back this up, or is that another one of those WTS/JW ideas you learned about, and apparently bought hook, line and sinker....
For believers. Not unbelievers.
So sin isn't killing anyone except for followers of Jesus?
Why then did YHVH tell Adam that he will die for eating the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil?
Are you saying that YHVH lied?
Genesis 2-3
And a higher power, not necessarily God. From
Wikipedia: "In current twelve-step program usage, a higher power can be anything at all that the member believes is adequate. Reported examples include
their twelve-step group, nature, consciousness, existential freedom, God, mathematics, science, and Buddha."
So, idolatry and false gods....
Reminds me of Deuteronomy 30:15.
The gods are demons.
Yeah, I see that all the time in Christians. It's a placebo.
Pity you're not actually doing it.
The placebo is yours.
Oh, but wait. I see you don't actually have any scriptures to back this up.
Same with everything above.
No scriptures for that, huh?
Absolutely.
How many would you like?
This could take a while.
Genesis 2:17, 3:19,
Each and every single human being who has been born since, has died. In doing a word search, I've found 533 instances of die, died. 362 instances of death, and variations thereof, 13 instances of dying,
I won't copy all of those.
There's Deuteronomy 30:19-20, Ezekiel 18:4, 30-32.
According to Romans 5:6-12, we read that Jesus died for us and that death entered the world through sin, and all died because all sinned.
Rom 5:6-12 WEB 6 For while we were yet weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For one will hardly die for a righteous man. Yet perhaps for a good person someone would even dare to die. 8 But God commends his own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we will be saved from God’s wrath through him. 10 For if while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we will be saved by his life. 11 Not only so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation. 12 Therefore, as sin entered into the world through one man, and death through sin, so death passed to all men because all sinned.
John 3:16-21 is equally powerful.
Joh 3:16-21 WEB 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only born Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 17 For God didn’t send his Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through him. 18 He who believes in him is not judged. He who doesn’t believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only born Son of God. 19 This is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light, for their works were evil. 20 For everyone who does evil hates the light and doesn’t come to the light, lest his works would be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his works may be revealed, that they have been done in God.”
I further see in Romans 6:23 an exceedingly important point.
Rom 6:23 WEB For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Then we have Ephesians 2:1
Eph 2:1 WEB You were made alive when you were dead in transgressions and sins,
It keeps going for quite a while.
So, if you actually think that I'm just posting my opinions, you're more than welcome to come and see for yourself.
Not literal. Symbolic for destruction.
What? No scripture to back this up?
Come on SR! If you're going to continue, have the self-respect of your beliefs to back them up to corroborate your claims.
After all, I am a Berean. Acts 17:11.
Who is "we"? Who was Jesus talking to?
Who do you think he was talking to?
I think he was talking to his followers.
Specifically to Mary, the sister of Lazarus.
Let me guess, you're not actually a follower of his, so you won't be among those who are brought into God's Kingdom?