Whose values?

They only have presuppositions as the base of their arguments. They will tell you Christians have the same.

Here is the problem, christians believe by faith.

Atheists do as well, they just loathe to admit it.

But that's not it either. Presuppositions as your basis for scientific theory on origins is a joke, scientifically.
I spell the Christian concept of Faith, the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen, with a capital F, to distinguish it from the colloquial word faith, which just means trust.

I do this because Christian’s will jump back and forth between the two meaning in debates because their worldview makes them naturally dishonest
 
It doesn't cause more harm depending on the sex of the partners
Monkeypox?

Sexual promiscuity is not exclusively heterosexual, but natural punishment for it is universal.

It just shows that sexual promiscuous behavior is condemned is scripture and in nature.

If someone tries to normalize sleeping with "whomever, whenever", it will be opposed equally whether gay or not.
 
There is male and female and some intersex.
the reality is that there are two sexes for it regardless of what combinations you or some others fancy. What you feel about things doesn't change reality.
I know. I'm not seeking to deny reality, you are. Gay men, lesbians, bisexuals and heterosexuals are all capable of having a satisfactory sex life. They are all capable of producing and tearing children. There's no biological argument against any variant of sex life.
 
Monkeypox?

Sexual promiscuity is not exclusively heterosexual, but natural punishment for it is universal.

It just shows that sexual promiscuous behavior is condemned is scripture and in nature.

If someone tries to normalize sleeping with "whomever, whenever", it will be opposed equally whether gay or not.
Rubbish. Contact with more people equals more opportunities to catch infectious diseases. This is not a moral argument for becoming a hermit.
 
Rubbish. Contact with more people equals more opportunities to catch infectious diseases. This is not a moral argument for becoming a hermit.
Balderdash!

You Brits are strange.

You are so desperate you agree with me but can't admit it out of spite.

Yes, increased contact increases your risk.

Or, you are unlucky the first time and have the drip that eats your brain.

This is not an "argument" whatsoever. It's truth.

It's also not religious whatsoever.
 
Balderdash!

You Brits are strange.

You are so desperate you agree with me but can't admit it out of spite.

Yes, increased contact increases your risk.

Or, you are unlucky the first time and have the drip that eats your brain.

This is not an "argument" whatsoever. It's truth.

It's also not religious whatsoever.
Nor is it a moral argument. Such and such a behaviour being risky, or unwise or irresponsible is not the same thing as it being wrong. Individuals are entitled to make their own decisions, and to suffer the results.
 
You dont know.

I'm not seeking to deny reality, you are.
What has that got to do with the two sexes with compatible anatomy that exist for it?
Gay men, lesbians, bisexuals and heterosexuals are all capable of having a satisfactory sex life.
People pleasuring themselves in ways contrary to the two sexes with compatible anatomy for it doesn't change the reality. Paedophiles can pleasure themselves just fine as they are concerned.
They are all capable of producing and tearing children.
The man/woman combination has the potential, not the sexual attractions you mentioned.
There's no biological argument against any variant of sex life.
There is, there are two sexes with compatible anatomy for it. You denying that doesnt change the reality
 
You dont know.

What has that got to do with the two sexes with compatible anatomy that exist for it?
People pleasuring themselves in ways contrary to the two sexes with compatible anatomy for it doesn't change the reality. Paedophiles can pleasure themselves just fine as they are concerned.
The man/woman combination has the potential, not the sexual attractions you mentioned.
There is, there are two sexes with compatible anatomy for it. You denying that doesnt change the reality
You would not recognise reality if it tapped you on the shoulder. Your catch phrase doesn't work. All anatomy is compatible.
 
Two sexes in the species Temujin, with compatible anatomy.
Compatible anatomy is a meaningless catchphrase. It signifies nothing. No-one suggests that there are not two sexes. No-one sane suggests that this means that homosexuality is impossible or illegitimate or immoral.
 
Two sexes in the species Temujin, with compatible anatomy.
Well this is certainly an interesting read.


It includes this.

"Many people never discover their condition unless they seek help for infertility, or discover it through some other brush with medicine. Last year, for example, surgeons reported that they had been operating on a hernia in a man, when they discovered that he had a womb. The man was 70, and had fathered four children."
 
Compatible anatomy is a meaningless catchphrase. It signifies nothing. No-one suggests that there are not two sexes. No-one sane suggests that this means that homosexuality is impossible or illegitimate or immoral.
Its a meaningful description. It is the reality you reject so you use the word catchphrase.
Morality would be a subjective view of the reality, its the reality you refuse to acknowledge
 
Its a meaningful description. It is the reality you reject so you use the word catchphrase.
Morality would be a subjective view of the reality, its the reality you refuse to acknowledge
Nope, it's a piece of verbal flotsam you are clinging to in a hostile sea of reality which is swamping your outdated, prejudicial, discriminatory, cruel and unsupportable views
 
Well this is certainly an interesting read.


It includes this.

"Many people never discover their condition unless they seek help for infertility, or discover it through some other brush with medicine. Last year, for example, surgeons reported that they had been operating on a hernia in a man, when they discovered that he had a womb. The man was 70, and had fathered four children."
This is not scientific consensus. This is just one article as opposed to what is stated by the hundreds of professionals in the links I have given. You arent interested in the consensus of opinion. There are plenty of 'rogue' articles on these sites.
It is also not actually correct. All that is mentioned is the binary anatomies, the binary chromosomes and the intersex conditions
 
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