Why can't God speak for himself?

Whateverman

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Face to face conversations with Jesus will resume when he returns.
You don't have the authority to declare this. You can say it all you want, but Jesus is the one w3ho gets to decide when and where and with whom he'll have face to face conversations with. Not you (and not even the bible, which never says what you just said).

It is unreasonable for you to demand to have them now.
Nope. And again, you don't have the authority to declare it so. Only God/Jesus does, and you're not him.

You're just like me: a fallible human with limited knowledge and faulty perceptions. Someone like us can think we're right until it's shown that we're wrong - so it'd be best to stop trying to speak for the perfect creator of everything.
 

J regia

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This sentence does not make any sense to me. God can heal anyone.
What evidence do you have that cancers of unbelievers are cured by a god?
The salvation that Jesus offers is free. Face to face conversations with Jesus will resume when he returns. It is unreasonable for you to demand to have them now.
That's the god's choice if it doesn't want to have a chat and share a beer with me.
Why would Abraham repent for having a sexual relationship with his sister? He definitely regretted his relationship with Hagar.
That's because biblical morality, including the ten commandments etc, is just man-made. Which is why it wasn't morally wrong for Abraham to have a sexual relationship with his sister Sarah and commit adultery with Hagar, or for Lot to sexually assault his daughters, or for Abraham to butcher and cook his son, or for Cain-an to kill his brother Abel or for Noah's father to murder a young man (Gen 4) since the ten commandments etc didn't apply to them.
Your interpretation of John 3:13 is off. Check out the NLT translation. That might help clear things up.
Doesn't change the fact that the KJV clearly says that Moses & Noah & Abraham & David etc never went to heaven (John 3:13) even though David was his god's begotten son (Psalm 2:7), since they didn't repent and didn't believe in Jesus and weren't born again.
 
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Algernon

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Your interpretation of John 3:13 is off. Check out the NLT translation. That might help clear things up.
The NLT is a paraphrase of the Greek rather than a translation proper. And a poor one at that. It takes a lot of liberties with what the Greek actually says. The NASB is much truer to to the Greek. Often less so as revisions come out. Regardless, John 3:13 is awkwardly phrased in the Greek making it awkward to both translate and interpret. Of course this is true of John 3 in general.
 
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