ReverendRV
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That sounds like something Christian would say...Maybe the idea that God has two wills, has put them into two minds what to believe. lol.
Be a better Poster...
That sounds like something Christian would say...Maybe the idea that God has two wills, has put them into two minds what to believe. lol.
As we all know, Calvinism is accused of making God the author of/responsible for/culpable for sin.God knew what they would do, no question.
We all slip up, nothing to worry about, I have done it. We are all passionate about what we believe, are we not?
He certainly ALLOWED IT. Isa 53.So can you confirm God murdered his son, yes or no?
Right so cookedgoose is wrong, thank you, for your honesty.
You just pointed out cooked goose was wrong and I was right, so why explain to me, shouldn't you explain that to cookedgoose?
I didn't, no, I can't read every post, there are so many and I am busy today, flipping here and there.
Well we are agreed then he did not murder him, that was the choice of those that did it, God foreknew that would happen, yes.
God does not do evil, only good, because God is good and only God is good, Jesus said so.
God doesn't save sinners according to Calvinists,
he only saves the elect,
sinners would cover everyone, would it not?
sinners would cover everyone, would it not?
That poster has been here for years and has participated in such discussons himself.It goes both ways...
That one guy started a Thread about our play fighting here; he's been Lurking...
Sad...
Yes he allowed it. Nobody has denied that. Why would they?He certainly ALLOWED IT. Isa 53.
Yes, Cookedgoose definately did not say that correctly and wishes to "edit" the statement slightly.
You do not appear to understand that God's commands are for US to obey, not HIM. He is not commanding himself to repent, nor is he commanding himself to cause all of us to repent.So obey Gods commands, it's a sin not to, agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed.
So God breaks his own commandment if he doesn't want everyone to repent. This is calvinsim over rulling Gods word, you can clearly see a clear bible truth being disregarded for calvinism here. When God gives a commandment he wants you to obey, period. God does not have a split personality disorder, he is not a God of confusion. 1 Corinthians 14:33.
It would only be a ****ing contest to argue over his Membership, his on-and-off activity; and his statement that he checked the Board out to only find so-to-speak bickering. So he said an early Merry Christmas; and left...That poster has been here for years and has participated in such discussons himself.
God knew what they would do, no question.
Yes, He's the executor of the will, He's not a beneficiary. He owns outright everything in the will including the beneficiaries.You do not appear to understand that God's commands are for US to obey, not HIM. He is not commanding himself to repent, nor is he commanding himself to cause all of us to repent.
Gods intent is always for good, agreed. We must always look at God and see a glass half full, rather then one half empty, the scriptures are written in a way, where we can choose to perceive God in either light and for me Calvinism, when you listen to what is said, i can't help but see how Calvinism appears to see God in that half empty light, ie, the negative. Good always works for good and even though there is much evil God will try and turn it to good, he is working for good all the time, we must never forget that.As we all know, Calvinism is accused of making God the author of/responsible for/culpable for sin.
We all know that.
But culpability requires intent, and God has infallible foreknowledge.
So we have a difficult problem here.
Except it shouldn't be difficult for this reason.
Gen 50/20 But as for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good, in order to bring it about as it is to this day, to save many people alive.
We've quoted Genesis 50/20 many times, and we usually stop at "God meant it for good", which is partially incorrect on our part.
God's intent was not only "for good", it was for a different outcome ALTOGETHER, which I've never picked up on before.
Many people will be saved, but it's my belief God would like to save all, because that would be a good thing if no one went to hell, wouldn't it? Which gives God the greatest glory saving some, or everyone? So I struggle to see why God would only want to save some and not try and save all.It was "to bring it about as it is to this day, to save many people"
Why would ANYBODY do (or not do) ANYTHING???? Islamics claim that Isa (Jesus) NEVER WAS CRUCIFIED AT ALL (some other poor slob was made to "look like him", and murdered in His place). You can't make this garbage up!!!!Why would they?
Well, in a sense, God is also a beneficiary, because all things are for his glory and pleasure.Yes, He's the executor of the will, He's not a beneficiary. He owns outright everything in the will including the beneficiaries.
I thought that too. Recall the name.That poster has been here for years and has participated in such discussons himself.
Because all people NEED to repent.Why does God call people to repentence?
Yes; however, in that context, the "so" means "in this way", not "so much".The Bible says that God SO Loves the World;...
And perhaps you do not appear to understand that God never sets himself up as a hypocrite one who says something is good and just and yet he goes another direction.You do not appear to understand that God's commands are for US to obey, not HIM.
Devil's Advocate...Yes; however, in that context, the "so" means "in this way", not "so much".
What are you talking about?And perhaps you do not appear to understand that God never sets himself up as a hypocrite one who says something is good and just and yet he goes another direction.
He even stated when it comes to God and LOVE we're to be imitators of him and his character. Eph 5:1 If his character is so foreign to what he's commanded how could that even in the slightest way be possible? Clearly it couldn't be. You wouldn't know what that character is it'd be double minded all over the place. In other words no stability. Confusion.
God is not the author of such.