Why don't Mormons have the Spirit of Christ?

True, I don't know what christian mean by those terms, and still don't know much about the Chosen or Elect as christians preach it.
Begotten:
So what does monogenes mean? According to the Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature (BAGD, 3rd Edition), monogenes has two primary definitions. The first definition is "pertaining to being the only one of its kind within a specific relationship." This is its meaning in Hebrews 11:17 when the writer refers to Isaac as Abraham’s "only begotten son" (KJV). Abraham had more than one son, but Isaac was the only son he had by Sarah and the only son of the covenant. Therefore, it is the uniqueness of Isaac among the other sons that allows for the use of monogenes in that context.

The second definition is "pertaining to being the only one of its kind or class, unique in kind." This is the meaning that is implied in John 3:16 (see also John 1:14, 18; 3:18; 1 John 4:9). John was primarily concerned with demonstrating that Jesus is the Son of God (John 20:31), and he uses monogenes to highlight Jesus as uniquely God’s Son—sharing the same divine nature as God—as opposed to believers who are God’s sons and daughters by adoption (Ephesians 1:5). Jesus is God’s “one and only” Son.
You can read more about it here.

Firstborn:
The phrase "firstborn of all creation" proclaims Christ’s preeminence. As the eternal Son of God, He created the universe. He is the Ruler of creation!
You can read more about it here.

As a point of clarification, the term firstborn in relation to Jesus does not suggest that He is a created being. The Son of God has existed for all eternity along with the Father and the Holy Spirit. Jesus is fully God (John 1:1–3). He took on human flesh so that He could become our Savior serve as the Mediator between humankind and God (1 Timothy 2:5). When Scripture refers to Christ as the “firstborn,” the message is that Christ’s supremacy, sovereignty, and priority extend over all things and all other beings.
You can read more about it here.
 
Begotten:
So what does monogenes mean? According to the Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature (BAGD, 3rd Edition), monogenes has two primary definitions. The first definition is "pertaining to being the only one of its kind within a specific relationship." This is its meaning in Hebrews 11:17 when the writer refers to Isaac as Abraham’s "only begotten son" (KJV). Abraham had more than one son, but Isaac was the only son he had by Sarah and the only son of the covenant. Therefore, it is the uniqueness of Isaac among the other sons that allows for the use of monogenes in that context.

The second definition is "pertaining to being the only one of its kind or class, unique in kind." This is the meaning that is implied in John 3:16 (see also John 1:14, 18; 3:18; 1 John 4:9). John was primarily concerned with demonstrating that Jesus is the Son of God (John 20:31), and he uses monogenes to highlight Jesus as uniquely God’s Son—sharing the same divine nature as God—as opposed to believers who are God’s sons and daughters by adoption (Ephesians 1:5). Jesus is God’s “one and only” Son.
You can read more about it here.

Firstborn:
The phrase "firstborn of all creation" proclaims Christ’s preeminence. As the eternal Son of God, He created the universe. He is the Ruler of creation!
You can read more about it here.

As a point of clarification, the term firstborn in relation to Jesus does not suggest that He is a created being. The Son of God has existed for all eternity along with the Father and the Holy Spirit. Jesus is fully God (John 1:1–3). He took on human flesh so that He could become our Savior serve as the Mediator between humankind and God (1 Timothy 2:5). When Scripture refers to Christ as the “firstborn,” the message is that Christ’s supremacy, sovereignty, and priority extend over all things and all other beings.
You can read more about it here.
Now there are many who are sincerely concerned about religion, and who fall here into great perplexity. They are afraid that they may be proclaiming two Gods, and their fear drives them into doctrines which are false and wicked. Either they deny that the Son has a distinct nature of His own besides that of the Father, and make Him whom they call the Son to be God all but the name, or they deny the divinity of the Son, giving Him a separate existence of His own, and making His sphere of essence fall outside that of the Father, so that they are separable from each other.[2]
In trying to fight "Mormon heresy," they themselves promote the heresy of modalism, namely:

The Monarchians properly so-called (Modalists) exaggerated the oneness of the Father and the Son so as to make them but one Person; thus the distinctions in the Holy Trinity are energies or modes, not Persons: God the Father appears on earth as Son; hence it seemed to their opponents that Monarchians made the Father suffer and die. In the West they were called Patripassians, whereas in the East they are usually called Sabellians. The first to visit Rome was probably Praxeas, who went on to Carthage some time before 206-208; but he was apparently not in reality a heresiarch, and the arguments refuted by Tertullian somewhat later in his book "Adversus Praxean" are doubtless those of the Roman Monarchians (see PRAXEAS).[3]
Fairmormon
 
Really, where is that in our doctrine.... are you not a child of God? I would say you were.... here let me share our doctrine with you....

Latter-day Saints see all people as children of God in a full and complete sense; they consider every person divine in origin, nature, and potential. Each has an eternal core and is “a beloved spirit son or daughter of heavenly parents.”1 Each possesses seeds of divinity and must choose whether to live in harmony or tension with that divinity. Through the Atonement of Jesus Christ, all people may “progress toward perfection and ultimately realize their divine destiny.”2 Just as a child can develop the attributes of his or her parents over time, the divine nature that humans inherit can be developed to become like their Heavenly Father’s.

Now they who enter into the terrestrial kingdom, and they who enter into the telestial kingdom will not be sons of God in the sense in which this term is used here. Of course we are all the children of God, every soul on the earth; we are His offspring, but in the great kingdom that shall be established in exaltation, all who receive exaltation will become sons of God, joint heirs with Jesus Christ and entitled to all the privileges and all the blessings of the Fathers kingdom. What a wonderful privilege that is! This blessing will not come to the inhabitants of the telestial and the terrestrial worlds. (Joseph Fielding Smith, Conference Report, April 1942, p. 28; emphasis added)
  • We are taught that we are the offspring of God, yet only those who obey will be called the sons of God and the children of God. (Doctrines of Salvation, sel. Bruce R. McConkie [1954-56] 3:250; emphasis added)
We should remember, as Latter-day Saints, that outside of the celestial kingdom, there is no family organization. That organization is reserved for those who are willing to abide in every covenant and every obligation which we are called upon to receive while we sojourn here in this mortal life. (Joseph Fielding Smith, Conference Report, Oct. 1948)


More evidence that the Mormon "heavenly father" doesn't consider every offspring his child:
When everything gets finished, we will all be one family--every member of the Church a member of one family, the family of God. And we will all be subject to our first progenitor, Adam, Michael, the archangel, who has been appointed and given authority under Jesus Christ to stand at the head and preside over all his posterity. We are one family. (Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, Vol. 2:173-74)

  • And after that he came men also were saved by faith in his name; and by faith, they become the sons of God. . . . Wherefore, my beloved brethren, pray unto the Father with all the energy of heart, that ye may be filled with this love, which he hath bestowed upon all who are true followers of his Son, Jesus Christ; that ye may become the sons of God; that when he shall appear we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is; that we may have this hope; that we may be purified even as he is pure. (Moroni 7:26,48)
  • But verily, verily, I say unto you, that as many as receive me, to them will I give power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on my name. (D&C 11:30)
  • Who so loved the world that he gave his own life, that as many as would believe might become the sons of God. Wherefore you are my son; (D&C 34:3)
 
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“All who accept God’s plan for his children on earth and who live it are the children of Abraham. Those who reject the[Mormon]gospel, whether children in the flesh, or others, forfeit the promises made to Abraham and are not children of Abraham” (John A. Widtsoe, Evidences and Reconciliations, 400).
 
all who receive exaltation will become sons of God
That is not a limiting statement.
More evidence that the Mormon "heavenly father" doesn't consider every offspring his child
That's the argument of our critics, not ours. As I've said many times and what appears to be the narrative of Ps 82. There, we have gods who can fall discussed. It appears from the scriptures that we can fall from grace. It is not a matter of gaining grace. Christ has solved that problem. Choose to follow the dictates of the world and personal list then we can lose our inheritance. We may still be related by DNA but simply being genetically related does not automatically grant an inheritance.

We are all the offspring of God. That much is is biblically factual. The idea of joining the heavenly family through adoption through Jesus Christ is also biblically factual. Joining that family is not accomplished through physical birth, it comes through spiritual birth and those who are not born of water and the spirit cannot be part of the heavenly family without receiving Christ. That is also Biblically factual. That is our theology.
 
John 3:18 Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

That is a reference to a personal choice--and is different from the condemnation which automatically befell all mankind because of the Fall. All men are Redeemed from the condemnation of the Fall--due to the Atonement of Jesus Christ:

Romans 5:18--King James Version
18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

Again--where do we find anyone being judged or condemned--due to the Fall--in the NT--following the Atonement? All men are now judged in accordance with their own works--not Adam's:

Matthew 16:27--King James Version
27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

As for baby's it still is somewhat of a mystery.

It might be a mystery to those who don't understand God's Atonement--but it isn't a mystery to the Biblical writers:

Galatians 4:1-2---King James Version
1 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.

Again--anyone who even supposes that God sends infants to hell--is in the gall of bitterness, and denies the grace of God.
 
Mormonism is polytheistic and devilish.

Luciferian: Of or relating to Lucifer; satanic; devilish.

Janice--for one who claims there aren't any acts of obedience to Jesus Christ, in inheriting eternal life--does not mean those who reject that claim are "devilish":

Hebrews 5:9---King James Version
9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

So--is this an example of "polytheistic"?

John 10:34-35---King James Version
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
 
That is a reference to a personal choice--and is different from the condemnation which automatically befell all mankind because of the Fall. All men are Redeemed from the condemnation of the Fall--due to the Atonement of Jesus Christ:
There is no biblical teaching on this concept.

All there is is verses that are twisted to conform to that narrative.

My personal belief, babies are saved...though containing a fallen nature have not sinned yet.
 
Hebrews 5:9---King James Version
9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
Problem being for the works based mormons...they don't obey Him. Which means according to their salvation message they don't have eternal life.
 
Problem being for the works based mormons...they don't obey Him
We may not obey your interpretations about what that means, but you all are not God. The closest thing we have in common is the Bible and it sure looks like we do a much better job of obeying it's teachings that you all do.

Can you explain for us what it means to "obey Him"?
 
Sure there is, as in Adam all die, everyone will die, even Jesus. No one gets to the resurrection without dying. Some may not taste death, but everyone must pass out of mortality.
The topic was..."All men are Redeemed from the condemnation of the Fall--due to the Atonement of Jesus Christ:"

There is no biblical teaching on this concept.
 
We may not obey your interpretations about what that means, but you all are not God. The closest thing we have in common is the Bible and it sure looks like we do a much better job of obeying it's teachings that you all do.

Can you explain for us what it means to "obey Him"?
Obey means just that...obey.

As to the mormons doing a much better job...if you say so. Especially if you don't like chocolate and coffee and think you should run around a temple in white robes.

Thing is....as I've pointed out before...MOTIVATION...The mormon thinks they can obtain Gods mercy by doing good, performing rituals...obeying. That is to obey to save their own butts. The true Christian will obey to glorify Jesus. When will you see and acknowledge the difference? The mormons are selfish in their motivation.
 
The topic was..."All men are Redeemed from the condemnation of the Fall--due to the Atonement of Jesus Christ:"

There is no biblical teaching on this concept.
My response was to "condemnation which automatically befell all mankind because of the Fall."

The Bible teaches that.

It also teaches in the same verse, that all mankind is redeemed from the fall the same as all mankind. 1 Cor 15:22 "For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive".
 
Now they who enter into the terrestrial kingdom, and they who enter into the telestial kingdom will not be sons of God in the sense in which this term is used here. Of course we are all the children of God, every soul on the earth; we are His offspring, but in the great kingdom that shall be established in exaltation, all who receive exaltation will become sons of God, joint heirs with Jesus Christ and entitled to all the privileges and all the blessings of the Fathers kingdom. What a wonderful privilege that is! This blessing will not come to the inhabitants of the telestial and the terrestrial worlds. (Joseph Fielding Smith, Conference Report, April 1942, p. 28; emphasis added)
  • We are taught that we are the offspring of God, yet only those who obey will be called the sons of God and the children of God. (Doctrines of Salvation, sel. Bruce R. McConkie [1954-56] 3:250; emphasis added)
We should remember, as Latter-day Saints, that outside of the celestial kingdom, there is no family organization. That organization is reserved for those who are willing to abide in every covenant and every obligation which we are called upon to receive while we sojourn here in this mortal life. (Joseph Fielding Smith, Conference Report, Oct. 1948)


More evidence that the Mormon "heavenly father" doesn't consider every offspring his child:
When everything gets finished, we will all be one family--every member of the Church a member of one family, the family of God. And we will all be subject to our first progenitor, Adam, Michael, the archangel, who has been appointed and given authority under Jesus Christ to stand at the head and preside over all his posterity. We are one family. (Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, Vol. 2:173-74)

  • And after that he came men also were saved by faith in his name; and by faith, they become the sons of God. . . . Wherefore, my beloved brethren, pray unto the Father with all the energy of heart, that ye may be filled with this love, which he hath bestowed upon all who are true followers of his Son, Jesus Christ; that ye may become the sons of God; that when he shall appear we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is; that we may have this hope; that we may be purified even as he is pure. (Moroni 7:26,48)
  • But verily, verily, I say unto you, that as many as receive me, to them will I give power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on my name. (D&C 11:30)
  • Who so loved the world that he gave his own life, that as many as would believe might become the sons of God. Wherefore you are my son; (D&C 34:3)
Here it is again, Janice.



Of course we are all the children of God, every soul on the earth; we are His offspring, but in the great kingdom that shall be established in exaltation, all who receive exaltation will become sons of God, joint heirs with Jesus Christ and entitled to all the privileges and all the blessings of the Fathers kingdom.

 
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