Why is no one talking about Israel?

wiseones2cents

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Don't use credit cards, get an education and high paying job, or learn to farm.


right. That's why so many university graduates in the USA are educated, in heavy debt and cant find a good paying job. Check and mate!

Then move to a country that's more affordable if you don't like it.
I need money to move. We are not all born rich like Jews or have Jewish connections.

Most isms are started by Jews as it becomes their religion. Marx was a Jew in name only.

RIGHT! The Mensheviks was a Jewish political party of which the Bolsheviks evolved from.
Poverty has always been a part of Cuba and prostitutes are all over the world. Castro turned Cuba into a 3rd world country.
Wrong. I'd imagine they were much better off before the Jewish Mafia built casinos there, and now that they are economically sanctioned. THATS why they are a 3rd world country. They dont have access to the make belief fiat money being issued by western banks!

What did Socialism do for Venezuela?

Chavez seized foreign owned assets to feed the people. Thats why he was loved by the people, but hated by the Venezuelan upper class that benefitted from foreign Imperialism.
Sorry, I didn't value wiki as a source.

Verify it with any encyclopedia if you dare. :)
Nobody has to pay the price. Make your own stuff. Use your community. ;)
Yes, I will make my own homes. Wait! Material is 10X the actual cost and the government wont let me. Next sill idea!
I'm referring to recent years.

And Im referring to bailouts in general. In true capitalism, they would have collapsed causing the loss of tens of thousands of jobs.
I've already given them.

Bad examples as they are not able to operate freely thanks to western Sanctions.
There's only debt when you spend more than you take in. When social programs are in Integrated and everyone expects freebies is where the problem lies.


ROTFLOL!!! is that why 99.9% of countries are all in heavy debt? Go see how much of the debt is for social programs. Under 1%. try again.
See above.

Anyway, this topic has nothing to do with Israel. I'm done.
Im done too. Hope you learned something. :)
 

Jewjitzu

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right. That's why so many university graduates in the USA are educated, in heavy debt and cant find a good paying job. Check and mate!
Rotfl... no it's because they pursue useless degrees like gay studies, art, basket weaving, etc., at Harvard or other Ivy league schools. Not much of an ROI or demand for those technical degrees. ;)

I need money to move. We are not all born rich like Jews or have Jewish connections.
All Jews aren't born rich. Nor do all Jews have connections. Get another job or ask your socialist community for help. Rotfl 😂

Or get a better degree or trade.

RIGHT! The Mensheviks was a Jewish political party of which the Bolsheviks evolved from.
And?

Wrong. I'd imagine they were much better off before the Jewish Mafia built casinos there, and now that they are economically sanctioned. THATS why they are a 3rd world country. They dont have access to the make belief fiat money being issued by western banks!
Do you know anyone personally from Cuba? I do and they say Castro and socialism was the problem. Miami just loves Castro. ;)

Chavez seized foreign owned assets to feed the people. Thats why he was loved by the people, but hated by the Venezuelan upper class that benefitted from foreign Imperialism.
Rotfl... how much is he loved now?

Verify it with any encyclopedia if you dare. :)
No need to. The evidence is apparent.

Yes, I will make my own homes. Wait! Material is 10X the actual cost and the government wont let me. Next sill idea!
So socialism doesn't work. Why don't you put it into practice?

And Im referring to bailouts in general. In true capitalism, they would have collapsed causing the loss of tens of thousands of jobs.
Then let it calapse. It can't be any worse than what we've seen from socialism.

Bad examples as they are not able to operate freely thanks to western Sanctions.
Rotfl... but that shouldn't be a problem because they are their own social community, independent of governments, etc. ;) You're proving Socialism doesn't work.

ROTFLOL!!! is that why 99.9% of countries are all in heavy debt? Go see how much of the debt is for social programs. Under 1%. try again.
Sure. Look at all of the social programs that Europe, etc., have and their problems.

Im done too. Hope you learned something. :)
Nothing I didn't know before.
 
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wiseones2cents

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Your boy is getting pounded on the secular forum. Judaism is taking a beating. Come defend Him. Eventually I will come here. Do not use your scriptures to justify genocide and land theft!
 

Jewjitzu

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Your boy is getting pounded on the secular forum. Judaism is taking a beating. Come defend Him. Eventually I will come here. Do not use your scriptures to justify genocide and land theft!
Rotfl... the only thing taking a pounding is your no-name god naming Jesus after my God. ;)
 

wiseones2cents

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What does that make you? A heretic.
How you love trolling me. I guess the religious Jews would be considered heretics too since they believe things TOTALLY different than Christians.

Did you know Melchizedek was Shem? LOL He was still alive during Abraham's life. Apparently so was Noah, Nahor, Serug, Reu, and Peleg.lol
 

Nic

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How you love trolling me. I guess the religious Jews would be considered heretics too since they believe things TOTALLY different than Christians.

Did you know Melchizedek was Shem? LOL He was still alive during Abraham's life. Apparently so was Noah, Nahor, Serug, Reu, and Peleg.lol
You don't even believe Christ was God.
 

Open Heart

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Not that this is all that important, but lets all get our terms straight.

A heretic is someone that is part of a particular religious group, but holds beliefs that are not considered Orthodox in that group. For example, if a person is a Christian, but holds the Arian belief that Jesus is not God, but is the first born of creation, they would be considered a Christian heretic.

An apostate is someone who was the member of one religious group, and left it when they converted to a new religion. For example, a person who is a religious Jew who becomes a Christian is considered an apostate by us.

An infidel is someone who is not part of whatever you ascribe to. So for example, to a Muslim, a Hindu would be an infidel.

A pagan is someone whose religion is not monotheistic, usually meaning they are polytheistic or animistic. So for example, someone who believes in Odin, Thor, and the rest of the Norse pantheon would be pagan.

A heathen is a derogatory word for anyone who does not agree with your religion. A Christian, for example, would consider an atheist to be heathen.
 

American Gothic

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A heretic is someone that is part of a particular religious group, but holds beliefs that are not considered Orthodox in that group. For example, if a person is a Christian, but holds the Arian belief that Jesus is not God, but is the first born of creation, they would be considered a Christian heretic.
not a Christian
not a Believer

An apostate is someone who was the member of one religious group, and left it when they converted to a new religion. For example, a person who is a religious Jew who becomes a Christian is considered an apostate by us.
maybe a Believer
maybe not

An infidel is someone who is not part of whatever you ascribe to. So for example, to a Muslim, a Hindu would be an infidel.
not Believers

A pagan is someone whose religion is not monotheistic, usually meaning they are polytheistic or animistic. So for example, someone who believes in Odin, Thor, and the rest of the Norse pantheon would be pagan.
not a Believer

A heathen is a derogatory word for anyone who does not agree with your religion. A Christian, for example, would consider an atheist to be heathen.
not a Believer
 

American Gothic

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Your comments above don't seem to be concerned with the meanings of the words.
these terms might be useful somewhat, but I don't view as the be all end all

some might say Mormons are Christians and believe in the Jewish Messiah, but I wouldn't
and
some might say Paul was an apostate to Judaism and the Law, but I wouldn't

many are Religious
few are Believers
 

Arch Stanton

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Not that this is all that important, but lets all get our terms straight.

A heretic is someone that is part of a particular religious group, but holds beliefs that are not considered Orthodox in that group. For example, if a person is a Christian, but holds the Arian belief that Jesus is not God, but is the first born of creation, they would be considered a Christian heretic.

An apostate is someone who was the member of one religious group, and left it when they converted to a new religion. For example, a person who is a religious Jew who becomes a Christian is considered an apostate by us.

An infidel is someone who is not part of whatever you ascribe to. So for example, to a Muslim, a Hindu would be an infidel.

A pagan is someone whose religion is not monotheistic, usually meaning they are polytheistic or animistic. So for example, someone who believes in Odin, Thor, and the rest of the Norse pantheon would be pagan.

A heathen is a derogatory word for anyone who does not agree with your religion. A Christian, for example, would consider an atheist to be heathen.
Were you previously a Catholic?

Thanks
 

Open Heart

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some might say Paul was an apostate to Judaism and the Law, but I wouldn't
That is because the term apostate is relative to the religion. A Jewish apostate to Hinduism in my religion is someone coming home to the true faith in Hinduism. As a former Christian who has become a Jew, I would be considered an apostate by Christians, but not by Jews.
 

American Gothic

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plenty might say
"I believe in Jesus" or "I've given my life to Christ"
whatever those mean
anyway, not the OP

IDF is doing pretty well, it seems
except to those that want Gaza to remain an Islamic terror base and problem for Israel
 

joline

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Israel is being judged right now. This is the Psalms 83 battle "wake up call" for the Jewish nation to turn back to God.

They were punished with exile several times now yes.
De 28:45 Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee:
Deut 29:26 For they went and served other gods, and worshipped them, gods whom they knew not, and whom he had not given unto them:
27 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against this land, to bring upon it all the curses that are written in this book:
28 And the LORD rooted them out of their land in anger, and in wrath, and in great indignation, and cast them into another land, as it is this day.

I think you might have it backwards here.

Deut 30:3 That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee.
7 And the LORD thy God will put all these curses upon thine enemies, and on them that hate thee, which persecuted thee.
 
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