Why Jews will never accept Jesus

Biblican

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I'm well aware that the word Mashiach means annointed and also refers to the messiah. I'm simply pointing out that in the passage you referred to, it refers to an annointed king, not the messiah.
It has to because there is no other Anointed One appearing in scripture after the destruction of the second temple. All you get is Antiochus and the antichrist up until the end Daniel 12:1. The passage does not say anointed king, it says Messiah.
 

Biblican

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If it's just so funny, then why does the scripture in Revelation 11:2-3 call the 42 months ( 3.5 years ) " 1,260 days " , which is exactly 360 days in each of those years? Also in Rev.12:6 where God's people will be taken care of for 1,260 days ( the 3.5 year length of the Great Trib. mentioned in Matt.24:21 with the AOD as spoken of ( Matt.24:15 ) by the Prophet Daniel in Dan.9:27! Thus the scriptures do indeed use the Prophetic year of 360 dats and the case is closed on your " it's so funny! So like I correctly told you the start date is Nissan of 444 BC by the decree issued to Nehemiah in chapter two, by King Artaxerxes and the math brings us to Nissan of 33 AD! Also there were in Fact Two Sabbaths ( rare ) in Nissan ( April of that week ) when Christ got Crucified ( Cut off )! Everything works out mathematically perfectly to the Tee!
Very good. There is another calculation from Cyrus' decree to begin the temple to Jesus' beginning His ministry in 26AD. They say that He ministered longer than three and a half years and I think that's true.
 

Biblican

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Because in a debate forum, the obligation is upon the person making the claim to provide the evidence for it. You expect us to accept things just at your word. Pretty arrogant, and lazy debating.
I'm not debating, that's sin (Romans 1:29, II Cor. 12:20). I am having a conversation.
 

Biblican

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Because in a debate forum, the obligation is upon the person making the claim to provide the evidence for it. You expect us to accept things just at your word. Pretty arrogant, and lazy debating.
I don't debate, it's sin. I converse. The unwillingness to do your own research to me is evidence again, that you did not have the background to make an educated decision to leave Jesus. You let one Internet guru strip you of the only hope you have to get your soul out of hell. He only picks those he feels he can win a debate with to debate. If his doctrines were a circus act they would be contortionists. His explanation of Isaiah 9:6 as referring to Hezekiah is ludicrous. It's talking about the one who arises out of Galilee in verse 1. Hezekiah was king of Judea in Jerusalem which is in the south. Galilee is in the north. It's talking about Jesus who began His ministry in Galilee.
 

Open Heart

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If it's just so funny, then why does the scripture in Revelation 11:2-3 call the 42 months ( 3.5 years ) " 1,260 days " , which is exactly 360 days in each of those years? Also in Rev.12:6 where God's people will be taken care of for 1,260 days ( the 3.5 year length of the Great Trib. mentioned in Matt.24:21 with the AOD as spoken of ( Matt.24:15 ) by the Prophet Daniel in Dan.9:27! Thus the scriptures do indeed use the Prophetic year of 360 dats and the case is closed on your " it's so funny! So like I correctly told you the start date is Nissan of 444 BC by the decree issued to Nehemiah in chapter two, by King Artaxerxes and the math brings us to Nissan of 33 AD! Also there were in Fact Two Sabbaths ( rare ) in Nissan ( April of that week ) when Christ got Crucified ( Cut off )! Everything works out mathematically perfectly to the Tee!
I'm gonna bow out Rod-ney. There are just certain types of debates that totally bore me to death, debates that I think are totally worthless. Among them are math debates. Till then, just remember what I said -- prophetic years are a concoction of Christians, they never did exist.
 

Open Heart

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I don't debate, it's sin. I converse. The unwillingness to do your own research to me is evidence again, that you did not have the background to make an educated decision to leave Jesus. You let one Internet guru strip you of the only hope you have to get your soul out of hell. He only picks those he feels he can win a debate with to debate. If his doctrines were a circus act they would be contortionists. His explanation of Isaiah 9:6 as referring to Hezekiah is ludicrous. It's talking about the one who arises out of Galilee in verse 1. Hezekiah was king of Judea in Jerusalem which is in the south. Galilee is in the north. It's talking about Jesus who began His ministry in Galilee.
Again, this is a debate site. Conversation also happen, but what you and I do, along with Rachel Redux, Harel13, and Jewjitzu, is called debate. Calling it a conversation doesn't change things.
 

rod.ney

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I'm gonna bow out Rod-ney. There are just certain types of debates that totally bore me to death, debates that I think are totally worthless. Among them are math debates. Till then, just remember what I said -- prophetic years are a concoction of Christians, they never did exist.
FYI I just proved from scripture that scripture uses a Prophetic year of 360 days! We go by Solar years of 365.25 days! And since scriptures will Never Lie, yes indeed the math works out PERFECTLY because even History tells us that Jesus got cut off ( Crucified in Nissan or April of 33 AD when there were not one, But Two Sabbaths in that week! Also I proved that ONLY Nehemiah chapter Two was in Fact the start date ( Nissan of 444 BC ) mentioned in Dan.9:24-26 because it POINT Blank said the Decree to be issued was to rebuild & restore the city ( JERUSALEM ) and Not just the Temple as all the other decrees were for! Dan. didn't even mention the Temple getting rebuilt in Dan.9:24-26! So the REAL reason you are leaving this debate is the FACT that you are unable to refute the Facts in those scriptures that I posted ( so you bow out because you can't refute it with scripture ) and they ( those posted scriptures ) do FULLY BACK up what I Correctly posted! 3.5 Years in Rev. chapter 11 = 1260 days or 360 days in a Prophetic or Biblical year! The Solar year is 365.25 days! Case closed!
 
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Biblican

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Many scholars believe Yeshua's ministry was just over one year.
Here's an article that gives a lot of the reasoning if you're interested.

That wouldn't be Biblical at all, as there are several Passovers mentioned. Also with the amount of traveling He did and the time it takes to get there a longer period would have to be considered. Also they did not have newspapers or media to spread the word, it was all word of mouth which would take some time for Him to accumulate the following He did.
 

Rachel Redux

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That wouldn't be Biblical at all, as there are several Passovers mentioned. Also with the amount of traveling He did and the time it takes to get there a longer period would have to be considered. Also they did not have newspapers or media to spread the word, it was all word of mouth which would take some time for Him to accumulate the following He did.
You must not have read the article but that's okay.
 

Biblican

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You must not have read the article but that's okay.
I did. I don't agree with it. He's got Jesus beginning His ministry on the Sabbath year, but He was in Nazareth when he read Isaiah 61:1,2. He had already done some ministry in Galilee prior to that, Luke 4:14, 15. Then you have to co-ordinate His trip to Jerusalem for the Passover John 2:13. He was in that region for awhile and returned to Galilee John 4:3. It was on His way back to Galilee when He stopped in Nazareth and was rejected. It was here He learned of John the Baptist's inprisonment, he had not been imprisoned yet while Jesus was in Judea, John 3:23. Matthew and Mark begin their accounts after John's imprisonment Matthew 4: 12, 13, Mark 1:14. Matthew has Him leaving Nazareth at that time. It might help to get a gospel harmony that coordinates the gospels and you can see the time frames better. I am working on one now.
 
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