Why Jews will never accept Jesus

Jewjitzu

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The beast changes the moral laws, acceptance of homosexuality etc. as we are seeing today. The Sabbath is always the sabbath,a day of rest. That's why Sunday, the Lord's day was never called "The Sabbath" by the early Christians. Sunday, the Lord's day is foreshadowed through the "eighth day" mentioned in Leviticus. The first two feasts, Passover and first fruits have been fulfilled by Jesus through His death and resurrection. Tabernacles represents His second coming when He returns in Zechariah 14 where the feast is celebrated. Jesus' death and resurrection are observed as He instigated the New Covenant.
The church has changed all of this and added. All false teachings.
 

Jewjitzu

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The Sabbath is a foreshadow of the rest we have in Jesus. He came to justify us so we don't have to justify ourselves which no one has ever been able to do. That's why Moses broke the first set of commandments. If you break one commandment you've broken them all. The tenth commandment deals with the sins of the heart and thought life. Have you kept that one perfectly all your life? God is always looking at our motives and He knows every thought that comes into our minds. If we think a bad thought about someone that is sin. It's impossible to justify ourselves before God, that's why He covers us with Jesus' sacrifice. When we accept what God has done for us, those things that we do that are wrong are not held against us for our condemnation.
I don't worship holidays, I worship God.
Daniel 7:25 is describing the antichrist who is destroying the Christians. That's why he is called anti-christ. He is not the beast. The beast is the one world government that is forming now. The people that are behind this movement are satanists. Believe me, when they use the Muslims and the Jews to get rid of the Christians, then they will get rid of you too because they are against anyone who worships the one true God of Israel. They want people to ultimately come to the place where they are willing to worship the devil in order to survive.
Nope, the Sabbath is eternal and has nothing to do with Jesus.
 

Jewjitzu

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That's what they believed. Isaiah 42:1 is a pre-existant picture of God and the Messiah. They saw the Spirit that moved upon the water's in Genesis as Messiah's Spirit. I'll be presenting more evidence of ths later as I am digging into the Rabbinical writings.
Unfortunately, you misunderstand a lot and view things with your Christian goggles.

Let me know what you find.
 

Jewjitzu

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No, no one was ever justified by law keeping. Adam and Eve just had to keep one commandment and they blew it. That's why God covered them with the first sacrifice. That pattern is carried all the way through scripture to Jesus' sacrifice which is what the Old Testament is all about. I've said that you don't understand the New Covenant and you keep proving that. If you think you are justified by your own efforts, that is pride, which is a sin. You can't read Paul and say he taught unrighteousness, the moral standard he, Jesus and the other apostles taught is very high. The emphasis of the Christian life is dying to self and self sacrifice for others. It's easier to follow a list of do's and don't than to crucify oneself on a daily basis, turn the other cheek and forgive your enemies.
Then neither is Jesus or you justified by him keeping it for you.

You'll never find Jesus saying your justified by him. Look it up.
 

Jewjitzu

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Doesn't one of those laws say that if your teenager rebels you can kill him? You need to differentiate between what was necessary to keep God's people in line at that time and what is applicable now. I worship God everyday, rest in Jesus for my salvation because if you are not resting in Him you are not keeping the Sabbath which was designed to be a foreshadow of our salvation in Jesus. When you study God's admonishments to His people He tells them the things that they did that caused their captivity and they have to do with how they treated others and the poor.
Deciding what's in or out is dangerous, a slippery slope.

So, basically you don't keep the Sabbath and keep what ever you want like the beast does.
 

Jewjitzu

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It was on the news somewhere, I can't remember. They are not obeying what the Lord says they are supposed to do regarding the aliens in their land which I believe is one reason that the Lord will permit them to go into a second captivity (Zechariah 14:1,2).
The aliens referred to are those keeping the laws. Those are the aliens, strangers in the gates. The others choose to be outside. Read Isaiah 56:1-8.

Don't quote what you don't know. Do you support Palestinians blowing people up?
 

Jewjitzu

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I am evaluating your statements from you posts. You expressed a definite lack of understanding of Messianic prophecies and foreshadows, etc. I think this is common with professed Christians who abandon their salvation to convert to Judaism. It's a pattern.
The reverse is actually true.
 

Jewjitzu

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Tovia Singer? Are you kidding me? The sex addict who has been involved in sex scandals and is probably one of the worst Bible scholars I have ever heard? You get your information from him? No wonder!!!
Do you have proof? I shall bless those that bless you...
 

Jewjitzu

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God said he wanted all people to be preists and kings and that is the authority he gives to followers of Jesus. The Holy Spirit gives insights into the word. Apparently you can't understand it unless the meaning is dictated to you by by the rabbis. Better hope they know what they are doing.
The spirit of holiness leads to Torah observance. You have a different spirit.
 

Jewjitzu

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The word for anointed in the Hebrew is the same word that is used for Messiah and that is why it is translated as Messiah in most Bibles. It is a Messianic prophecy that shows the Messiah is to come before the second temple is destroyed. This is confirmed by the other prophets. Crucified means being cut off, a person dies.
The word is just anointed, which is used at least 39 times in Tanakh, even in Daniel 9. Israel is also anointed.

Where is crucified used in Tanakh?
 

Jewjitzu

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Isaiah 9 verses 1-7 is a messianic prophecy. The Messiah would arise out of Galilee and his kingdom would not end verse 7. God's kingdom is people and that kingdom is expanding everyday as more and more people receive Jesus the Messiah.
The Messiah is cut of, killed as prophesied in Daniel 9:26. It has nothing to do with King Agrippa. I would never take anything Rashi said seriously. All the prophets point to the Messiah coming before the destruction of the second temple.
All of the prophets do not point towards Messiah coming before the destruction of the temple.

Seventy weeks are decreed for your people and your holy city to stop their transgression, to put an end to sin, to make atonement for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy, and to anoint the Most Holy Place.

In what way did Jesus stop sins? He didn't and didn't fulfill this at all.
 

rod.ney

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The gazillions of posts by you going back and forth with us, especially with Jewjitzu, are ample evidence of the contrary. I rest my case.
But you couldn't rest your case on my last post to you before this one, as you bowed out because you could NOT refute the scriptures that I posted that Proves Jesus Christ was the one that got cut off ( Crucified ) after the 69 sevens of Daniels 70 sevens in Dan.9:24-27!----------------------------------------
rod.ney said:
If it's just so funny, then why does the scripture in Revelation 11:2-3 call the 42 months ( 3.5 years ) " 1,260 days " , which is exactly 360 days in each of those years? Also in Rev.12:6 where God's people will be taken care of for 1,260 days ( the 3.5 year length of the Great Trib. mentioned in Matt.24:21 with the AOD as spoken of ( Matt.24:15 ) by the Prophet Daniel in Dan.9:27! Thus the scriptures do indeed use the Prophetic year of 360 days and the case is closed on your " it's so funny! So like I correctly told you the start date is Nissan of 444 BC by the decree issued to Nehemiah in chapter two, by King Artaxerxes and the math brings us to Nissan of 33 AD! Also there were in Fact Two Sabbaths ( rare ) in Nissan ( April of that week ) when Christ got Crucified ( Cut off )! Everything works out mathematically perfectly to the Tee when the CORRECT Decree in Nehemiah chapter Two ( 444 BC ) is used by King Artaxerxes! Nehemiah is the ONLY one that refers to rebuilding the city ( Jerusalem - as it so clearly states in Daniel 9:24-26 )! All the others ( Cyrus ) are ONLY about the Temple and NOT the City! --------------------------------

Daniel 9:24-26​

New International Version​

24 “Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place.
25 “Know and understand this: From the time the word ( Decree ) goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem ( Nehemiah chapter 2 - Not Cyrus - rebuild only the Temple ) until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. 26 After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.
 
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Open Heart

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But you couldn't rest your case on my last post to you before this one, as you bowed out because you could NOT refute the scriptures that I posted that Proves Jesus Christ was the one that got cut off ( Crucified ) after the 69 sevens of Daniels 70 sevens in Dan.9:24-27!
I simply didn't consider your post worth a reply. Sometimes the same stuff comes up over and over, and I get tired of it.
 

Jewjitzu

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But you couldn't rest your case on my last post to you before this one, as you bowed out because you could NOT refute the scriptures that I posted that Proves Jesus Christ was the one that got cut off ( Crucified ) after the 69 sevens of Daniels 70 sevens in Dan.9:24-27!----------------------------------------
rod.ney said:
If it's just so funny, then why does the scripture in Revelation 11:2-3 call the 42 months ( 3.5 years ) " 1,260 days " , which is exactly 360 days in each of those years? Also in Rev.12:6 where God's people will be taken care of for 1,260 days ( the 3.5 year length of the Great Trib. mentioned in Matt.24:21 with the AOD as spoken of ( Matt.24:15 ) by the Prophet Daniel in Dan.9:27! Thus the scriptures do indeed use the Prophetic year of 360 days and the case is closed on your " it's so funny! So like I correctly told you the start date is Nissan of 444 BC by the decree issued to Nehemiah in chapter two, by King Artaxerxes and the math brings us to Nissan of 33 AD! Also there were in Fact Two Sabbaths ( rare ) in Nissan ( April of that week ) when Christ got Crucified ( Cut off )! Everything works out mathematically perfectly to the Tee when the CORRECT Decree in Nehemiah chapter Two ( 444 BC ) is used by King Artaxerxes! Nehemiah is the ONLY one that refers to rebuilding the city ( Jerusalem - as it so clearly states in Daniel 9:24-26 )! All the others ( Cyrus ) are ONLY about the Temple and NOT the City! --------------------------------

Daniel 9:24-26​

New International Version​

24 “Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place.
25 “Know and understand this: From the time the word ( Decree ) goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem ( Nehemiah chapter 2 - Not Cyrus - rebuild only the Temple ) until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. 26 After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.
Did sin come to an end with Jesus? No.

There are two anointed. One after 7 weeks, and one after another 62 weeks.

The 70 weeks are continuous and not broken up. Do you understand the significance of the 70 weeks?

There are always two Sabbaths during Passover as the Passover itself, and holidays for that matter, are called Sabbaths, besides the 7th day Sabbath to commemorate creation.

Of interest as well, is Daniel 7:25, with the beast changing the set times, laws, religion. Can you guess what the beast represents?
 

Biblican

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You need to supply a source. You did not. You did not bother to check any of those out. The most proper debate etiquette is to supply a succinct quote from a good source, and then cite the source.
I am not a debater I am a teacher. I don't debate it is sin. I supplied you with a link that provided references to the subject. If you can't do your own research.
 

Biblican

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The gazillions of posts by you going back and forth with us, especially with Jewjitzu, are ample evidence of the contrary. I rest my case.
What's the difference between a debate and having a conversation between people who don't agree with each other?
 

Biblican

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Ezekiel 36:26-27 says otherwise.
Check the timing and the context. The gathering is about God's people being brought back to the Holy land after the captivity. The prophecy is about the Holy Spirit being given then and that 's when Jesus came. The Spirit was poured out fulfilling Joel's prophecy in Acts 2.
 

Biblican

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Did sin come to an end with Jesus? No.

There are two anointed. One after 7 weeks, and one after another 62 weeks.

The 70 weeks are continuous and not broken up. Do you understand the significance of the 70 weeks?

There are always two Sabbaths during Passover as the Passover itself, and holidays for that matter, are called Sabbaths, besides the 7th day Sabbath to commemorate creation.

Of interest as well, is Daniel 7:25, with the beast changing the set times, laws, religion. Can you guess what the beast represents?
Yes, sin came to an end in the hearts of the individual believer's when Jesus came.
The is only one anointed, one Redeemer not two. The 70 weeks covers a period of over four hundred years and it correlates to the beginning of Jesus' ministry.
And the eighth day is also a Sabbath and a foreshadow of the other sabbath that was to come, the Lord's day on Sunday.
The beast represents the One world government that is forming now. Its body consists of a lion, a leopard and a bear. These animals were once symbolic of three previous world empires, now they represent the three world powers we have today, the U.S, China and Russia. These powers will all be operating as one under the control of the "heads" in Europe the ten kings. They a have already divided the world up into ten regions. We haven't even seen the beginning of their law changing yet. The antichrist leader Daniel 11, is the one who changes God's laws. There is also a scripture in the Old Testament that says the lion, leopard and bear are judgments against Israel and her sins.
 
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