Why Satan… Tomorrow?

Tercon

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Does God Want Satan To Do Evil Tomorrow?


CCP…​

To God and His children it matters not what Satan does, because it is only in and with unbelievers that Satan works his lies.

Where do you believe physicality comes from?
 

Synergy

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Does God Want Satan To Do Evil Tomorrow?


CCP…​
No. There is no evil nor desire of evil in God. God does not predetermine evil otherwise he would be the author of evil. Through free choice (meaning no coercion from God), Satan chose the evil path and is 100% responsible for his actions.

Does Calvinism say the same thing as I mentioned above?
 

Sketo

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No. There is no evil nor desire of evil in God. God does not predetermine evil otherwise he would be the author of evil. Through free choice (meaning no coercion from God), Satan chose the evil path and is 100% responsible for his actions.

Why doesn’t God stop Satan from doing evil tomorrow?

 

Synergy

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Why doesn’t God stop Satan from doing evil tomorrow?
No coercion in salvation. Nobody is pulled kicking and screaming into heaven.

Does Calvinism believe that God predetermines everything which includes evil?
 

Theo1689

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No. There is no evil nor desire of evil in God. God does not predetermine evil otherwise he would be the author of evil. Through free choice (meaning no coercion from God), Satan chose the evil path and is 100% responsible for his actions.

Does Calvinism say the same thing as I mentioned above?

This is overly simplistic, and appeals more to emotionalism than to Scripture.
So before you can ask, "Does Calvinism say the same thing?", we have to determine whether your assertions are BIBLICAL or not.

1) Scripture is clear that God predetermines evil:
(Gen. 50:20, - Joseph's brothers selling him into slavery;
Isa. 10:5-7, - God wielding Assyria against Israel;
Acts 4:27-28). - the murder of the innocent son of God.
So you would have to address those passages:

2) You would need to prove FROM SCRIPTURE that predetermining evil makes God "the author of evil";

3) You claim man acts through "free choice without coercion from God". You need to demonstrate that FROM SCRIPTURE.

4) You try to divorce Satan from God, even though the book of Job that Satan cannot do ANYTHING without God's approval.
 

Synergy

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This is overly simplistic, and appeals more to emotionalism than to Scripture.
So before you can ask, "Does Calvinism say the same thing?", we have to determine whether your assertions are BIBLICAL or not.

1) Scripture is clear that God predetermines evil:
(Gen. 50:20, - Joseph's brothers selling him into slavery;
Isa. 10:5-7, - God wielding Assyria against Israel;
Acts 4:27-28). - the murder of the innocent son of God.
So you would have to address those passages:

2) You would need to prove FROM SCRIPTURE that predetermining evil makes God "the author of evil";

3) You claim man acts through "free choice without coercion from God". You need to demonstrate that FROM SCRIPTURE.

4) You try to divorce Satan from God, even though the book of Job that Satan cannot do ANYTHING without God's approval.
I wrote: "No coercion in salvation. Nobody is pulled kicking and screaming into heaven" to Sketo.
 

Howie

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No coercion in salvation. Nobody is pulled kicking and screaming into heaven.

Does Calvinism believe that God predetermines everything which includes evil?
If evil has not been purposed and willed into the world by God, then evil has no purpose, it simply, "is."

Is evil pointless, or is there a point to it, a purpose for it?
 

Dizerner

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Evil has a purpose, to devalue God and contradict his will. If all things are God's will, nothing can contradict God's will.

It is offensive to us that God allows evil, because we don't readily see the reason why—now isn't it interesting how the thread question morphed from Does God to Why Does God.

Our natural sinful reaction is react in pride when the answer doesn't seem readily accessible, and assume there is no valid logical answer, just like an atheist often does.

The humble response is to admit, I don't have to know the answer to believe there is one—God has a greater good, a morally sufficient reason for allowing evil.

No, God does not want anyone to do evil, but he can still redeem many evils and use them for good.

Why does God allow evil?

For whatever greater good he has so deemed in the mystery of his counsels, something that values himself and his glory above creation's well being.
 

Our Lord's God

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If evil has not been purposed and willed into the world by God, then evil has no purpose, it simply, "is."


Is evil pointless, or is there a point to it, a purpose for it?

Is this the part where we are to believe Satan's evil, and yours, has a good purpose?

If all your evil sins have a good purpose, why repent? After all, God predestined you to do them, and then you did them according to His will exactly as He ordained, and your evil was for His good purposes, so why then would you need to repent for doing God's will which results in a good purpose? Your God requires you to repent for doing exactly as He wanted?
 

Howie

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Is this the part where we are to believe Satan's evil, and yours, has a good purpose?
And he dodges the question. No surprise there.

If all your evil sins have a good purpose, why repent? After all, God predestined you to do them, and then you did them according to His will exactly as He ordained, and your evil was for His good purposes, so why then would you need to repent for doing God's will which results in a good purpose? Your God requires you to repent for doing exactly as He wanted?
And he jumps to the an extreme, wrong conclusion as he neglects mentioning his sin and his evil, and "his god.".

There is only one God, fella. 😏
 
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