Theo1689
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What if I told you I could bring verses from the Bible?
I would point out that if you had any, you would have presented them already.
What if I told you I could bring verses from the Bible?
It wasn't really the topic of the thread, but eh, may as well give it a shot.I would point out that if you had any, you would have presented them already.
You are on your way to Hell because you have no propitiation for your sins and no High Priest to offer the once for all time sacrifice.Thanks, but I'm not looking for how to prevent it. I plan on being an Orthodox Jew until my dying breath. What are your thoughts on the actual question in my OP?
I can manage without a high priest.You are on your way to Hell because you have no propitiation for your sins and no High Priest to offer the once for all time sacrifice.
It wasn't really the topic of the thread, but eh, may as well give it a shot.
A few examples:
Numbers 17:11-12:
"Then Moses said to Aaron, “Take the fire pan, and put on it fire from the altar. Add incense and take it quickly to the community and make expiation for them. For wrath has gone forth from the LORD: the plague has begun!” Aaron took it, as Moses had ordered, and ran to the midst of the congregation, where the plague had begun among the people. He put on the incense and made expiation for the people."
Hoshea 14:3-4:
"Return, O Israel, to the LORD your God, for you have fallen because of your sin. Take words with you and return to the LORD. Say to Him: “Forgive all guilt and accept what is good; instead of bulls we will pay [The offering of] our lips."
Samuel 2:12:13:
"David said to Nathan, “I stand guilty before the LORD!” And Nathan replied to David, “The LORD has remitted your sin; you shall not die."
Hey now, speak for yourself.You are not.I am not
Actually, "orthodox" is not my faith. Judaism is.If not you will remain in your dead orthodox faith.
It does not save. Only Jesus the Great Shepherd of the elect sheep saves.Read Ezk34.I can manage without a high priest.
See the second and third examples here:
Hey now, speak for yourself.
Actually, "orthodox" is not my faith. Judaism is.
Then others are in control of your faith understanding, that G-D judges ???*Shrug* I made this thread so that you could tell me, and more importantly, what is the reason that I will receive this hell. If you have no idea, then we can leave it at that.
What doesn't save?It does not save.
I don't see what this has to do with anything.Read Ezk34.
Well, I certainly never needed Christians to know that God judges, so no, that can't be it.Then others are in control of your faith understanding, that G-D judges ???
Well, I certainly never needed Christians to know that God judges, so no, that can't be it.
This is merely a thread to better understand why multiple Christian members of this site believe I will be going to hell.
I know you do not see it Harel13.What doesn't save?
I don't see what this has to do with anything.
I never said that. I said I don't have uniform respect for Christians. It's a case-by-case basis.Since you have said you have no respect for Christians
It interests me. Is that wrong? Could be.why do you care
Certainly no one has to, though evidently not everyone agrees with you on this point. If no one had replied to this thread, I would have left the matter alone.why should anyone entertain you on this subject?
So what you're saying is that the reason I will be going to hell is because I do not understand Eze. 34 the way you want me to understand it? Is that it?I let you know.If you ignore it, these will be why you go to hell.
Could you? Theoretically it might be possible. I am not the Divine Judge. It would be up to Him to decide.Harel, if we lived before the cross and I asked you could I go to heaven if I worshipped molech, instead of the God of Deut.6:4...what would you tell me?
I never said that. I said I don't have uniform respect for Christians. It's a case-by-case basis.
It interests me. Is that wrong? Could be.
Certainly no one has to, though evidently not everyone agrees with you on this point.
If no one had replied to this thread, I would have left the matter alone.
Doubt away, then.Yet you were mighty quick to disrespect me by saying I think you're ignorant so I'm doubting your case by case basis and seeing it's simply more of a uniform disrespect
I don't know who this "we" is. You don't know me. I made a point about what I think about Christians. You have no idea what I think about every single subject in the world and every sort of person in the world. I don't know why you think it is unreasonable that a person, myself in this case, might jump the gun and answer too quickly and too sarcastically sometimes, considering this person is only human, and moreover the general experience on this site has been that many of the members here consider that person to be ignorant of reality as Christians typically see it.but we know that isn't the case.
As I said, I don't care if someone says I'm going to hell. I have an occasional interest in Christianity and am aware that various denominations have various views, and thought it would be interesting to see if there was a spectrum-wide agreement on this particular subject or not.I'm curious as to why you actually care if someone thinks you're going to hell
Wait, so everyone who has replied to my question so far is not a Christian? Or is this "Christian" per the CARM definition, which excludes "cults"?Christians do. Keep in mind, not everyone posting on this board or even in this thread is a Christian.
I answered that. I don't care. I'm merely interested. Again, is that wrong? Is it impossible to conceive that a person would merely be interested in a certain subject? Here's another real example about myself: I enjoy drawing dragons. They excite my imagination, though I know they're not real. I don't care that they aren't real, I still like drawing them.Which brings me back to why do you actually care?
The reason you will go.to.hell is you are not sinless.So what you're saying is that the reason I will be going to hell is because I do not understand Eze. 34 the way you want me to understand it? Is that it?
Could you? Theoretically it might be possible. I am not the Divine Judge. It would be up to Him to decide.
Why will some sinners end up in Hell?For those who don't know, I'm an Orthodox Jew (you can check it out on my profile). Many a member here has informed me over the last two years that I will be going to hell. It has occurred to me that as Christians do not agree on many matters (as they say, "two Christians, thirty-thousand opinions"), perhaps they also do not agree on why exactly I will be going to hell.
So please, lay it on me: Do Christians who believe this agree on the exact reasoning? And if not, what arguments does one denomination have over the views of other denominations?
Have a good weekend, by the way.
For those who don't know, I'm an Orthodox Jew (you can check it out on my profile). Many a member here has informed me over the last two years that I will be going to hell. It has occurred to me that as Christians do not agree on many matters (as they say, "two Christians, thirty-thousand opinions"), perhaps they also do not agree on why exactly I will be going to hell.
So please, lay it on me: Do Christians who believe this agree on the exact reasoning? And if not, what arguments does one denomination have over the views of other denominations?
Have a good weekend, by the way.
Doubt away, then.
I don't know who this "we" is. You don't know me.
I made a point about what I think about Christians.
You have no idea what I think about every single subject in the world and every sort of person in the world.
I don't know why you think it is unreasonable that a person, myself in this case, might jump the gun and answer too quickly and too sarcastically sometimes, considering this person is only human, and moreover the general experience on this site has been that many of the members here consider that person to be ignorant of reality as Christians typically see it.
If this is truly unreasonable in your view, say so.
As I said, I don't care if someone says I'm going to hell.
Wait, so everyone who has replied to my question so far is not a Christian?
Or is this "Christian" per the CARM definition, which excludes "cults"?
I answered that. I don't care.
Identical to the argument of atheists.
Both OT and NT, if you believe them, describe the unending punishment of God against sinners.
Which would mean that you don't ascribe to JESUS being the promised messiah.For those who don't know, I'm an Orthodox Jew
As a rejector of Jesus as your SIN OFFERING, then hell is your destination.Many a member here has informed me over the last two years that I will be going to hell.
The 'ol "Theology" game.It has occurred to me that as Christians do not agree on many matters
Nah, there are more theological "theories" than Carter has liver pills.Christians who believe this agree on the exact reasoning?