wof and 1 Thessalonians 2:3-4

Tallen

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For our exhortation was not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile: but as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts.
1 Thessalonians 2:3‭-‬4 KJV
 

BlessedAnomaly

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So, in English:
(jk)

1 Thes 2:3-4 (NET)
For the appeal we make does not come from error or impurity or with deceit, 4 but just as we have been approved by God to be entrusted with the gospel, so we declare it, not to please people but God, who examines our hearts.

"Our request does not come....in deceit." But what if it did? Would you expect a deceitful man to tell the truth?
"We have been approved by God" So Joseph Smith says God approved him only to look into the hat and read the seer stones. A pattern here.
"not to please people but God, who examines our hearts." A veiled threat. The people will follow in fear.

I mean it's Paul. He got struck by lightning (a light from heaven) and fell to the ground. All around saw this. Jesus spoke to him and told him to go into the city. NOBODY heard this. So that would be dismissed in court. He goes into town and tells Ananias his vision. Ananias, the leader of the newly formed Word of Faith movement after the Pentecost event, sees an opportunity for himself. This is great stuff: we could raise thousands of denarius. We never hear from Ananias again (we hear OF him in chapter 22, from Paul nonetheless), although he does share the name of the Ananias (ch 5) who was struck dead by the Holy Spirit and a High Priest (ch 23,24) who came against Paul like a ton of bricks -- so the parallels are striking.

(jk)
 

Slyzr

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For our exhortation was not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile: but as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts.
1 Thessalonians 2:3‭-‬4 KJV

That was circa 2000 years ago.

When are we allowed to live?
 

Slyzr

Well-known member
So, in English:
(jk)

1 Thes 2:3-4 (NET)
For the appeal we make does not come from error or impurity or with deceit, 4 but just as we have been approved by God to be entrusted with the gospel, so we declare it, not to please people but God, who examines our hearts.

"Our request does not come....in deceit." But what if it did? Would you expect a deceitful man to tell the truth?
"We have been approved by God" So Joseph Smith says God approved him only to look into the hat and read the seer stones. A pattern here.
"not to please people but God, who examines our hearts." A veiled threat. The people will follow in fear.

I mean it's Paul. He got struck by lightning (a light from heaven) and fell to the ground. All around saw this. Jesus spoke to him and told him to go into the city. NOBODY heard this. So that would be dismissed in court. He goes into town and tells Ananias his vision. Ananias, the leader of the newly formed Word of Faith movement after the Pentecost event, sees an opportunity for himself. This is great stuff: we could raise thousands of denarius. We never hear from Ananias again (we hear OF him in chapter 22, from Paul nonetheless), although he does share the name of the Ananias (ch 5) who was struck dead by the Holy Spirit and a High Priest (ch 23,24) who came against Paul like a ton of bricks -- so the parallels are striking.

(jk)

Yup ...... bolded above ....

seems like the same thing to me .....

It's like a faith salesman ......
.
What do you have mr. faith salesman.

sure .....

we got all kinds of faith ..... faith for mattering ..... faith for not mattering.

What kind do you want?

faith for living ....

Do you have that .....


Not really our faith is for us living.
 
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