I am a teacher. Teach is on the top of my list. Persuade is on the bottom. If I believe truth, and teach you to observe, to think and discern...you, too, will believe, because Truth is persuasive of itself, and without help.
If I feel I have to "persuade" you that something is true, it probably isn't. I leave my deposit to be examined and evaluated.
Um, you should revisit a dictionary as to what "persuade" means.
If I teach a child that 1 plus 1 is equal to 2, then I persuade him to that fact. Persuade does not indicate some sort of trickery. It is "reasoning or argument" (Oxford, btw). Bottom line: if you teach, you persuade. It's what you do.
Naah...Jesus didn't spew nonsense to produce overwhelming impotence.
Or you can't budge from your presuppositions.
That's what folks who go with "ubiquitous interpretations" do.
You mean the ones who know Greek far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far better than you? It's funny how I had a multiple email conversation with the man over one verse in scripture, was allowed to reproduce this phrase, and from this phrase you denigrate and disparage the man.
Please, Pete, tell me the deep reasons why -- and don't leave out any detail -- he used the term "ubiquitous understanding." Tell me about the long conversation that you were not privy to. Tell me all the details as to why this had to be the conclusion.
Or you can just throw mud some more. Because you obviously understand Greek translation -- across the board, not just looking at biblehub and blueletterbible -- far, far better than men who do not use biblehub, men who understand Greek so well that they can speak it, read it, write it, transliterate it, translate it, and even screw it up sometimes -- but they screw it up in a way that still has more intelligence about Greek than you or I possess.
This comment from you is downright ignorant.
The student will wind up exactly as impotent as the teacher, and you have ubiquitous impotence as a fruit.
Oh the world is so blessed to have you writing on public forums.
Agreed. I fell off a roof, shattered my ankle (pilon fracture). I was to be on crutches for months. He pronounced my healing. I was on my crutches for months. He wasn't Jesus, and I didn't have that kind of faith. I would fault him for not saying...and I'll always fault me for not having enough "tree"...but not for lack of growth. I'm older now, and still believing for the fulfillment...as every one of those in Hebrews 12 died believing. I understand that "The night came...No man can work." And I know that night is far spent. The church will arise and surpass that of Acts 2 in manifestation. Jesus said we'd do his works, and left the limitations to that promise up to us to artificially enforce. I do not enforce limitations, but they are ubiquitously enforced and have been for centuries. MacArthur suggests that enforcement of these limitations is "good exegesis."
And if you fractured a bone tomorrow you would still be on crutches for months.
My wedding...Not "dry up and go away." I usually only pray for "a dome of high pressure over us." The rain struck all around us, the newspapers published maps of the lightning strikes, we had our garden reception, and then the rain commenced when we went in to the formal dining room to continue. I really do not care what you call it...we called it "time for thanksgiving." My atheist brother/best man, stationed in Germany and the only member of my family who could come to Sweden to the wedding, watched the clouds part, go around the churchyard, and join themselves together on the other side of the church, and said, "If you ever wanted a sign..." That was a miracle whatever you want to call the phenomenal weather. (And who cares what anyone calls it. It's ridiculous not to be grateful for the unforgettable event that we still discuss from time to time on CARM!)
I currently have a hole in my roof. The roofers will be here the week of November 15th to fix my roof. That's how busy we are here because of bad storms that this desert does not usually get (but we do get them cyclically, so climate change advocates can kiss my...) My office began to take in water, so I had to stand guard with a ShopVac to suck up any water that came in.
This led me to watch Radar apps on my computer to see if we were going to get rain so I could prepare. More than once I saw a major storm form in the mountains, come down toward my house and literally split in the middle and go around me.
- I didn't pray
- After my wife's death, I told God he could only sit on the other side of the room if he visited
- I yell at God constantly
- I blame God constantly
And you'll tell me he loves me anyway, so he split the storm anyway. Except that he didn't split the storm the other 12 times and my room is in ruins. And why does he have to split the storm, knowing what he knows, he could have just had the storm not show up in the first place.
It's never "of a", but always "as a"...it must grow or it isn't,
Matt 17:20 --
AMP - size of a mustard seed
KJV/NKJV - as a grain of mustard seed <--
NASB - size of a mustard seed
NET - size of a mustard seed
NIV - faith as small as a mustard seed <--
NRSV - size of a mustard seed
Ok, we have to throw out half the bible translations (ok, Ted, all of them). So Pete's criteria says that the NIV is the most accurate. (My words, his mouth.)
It's little things like this that make it funny that you are trying to school me on language and language translation. Even I can see the fallacy in your methods.
and so I can show you in the parable of the four fields where it gets "used up" from too much sunlight...and persecution and events of this world.
So you don't have faith. Since God measures out faith, this would mean that God is in charge of whether you have faith or not. So you couldn't produce a miracle on cue if you wanted -- it's up to God.
And if you can't, then when God measured your faith he made sure it was smaller than a mustard seed. Because IF your faith was but the size "as a" (for you) mustard seed nothing would be impossible. But obviously some things are not accomplished, so God is playing with us and laughing at us .... and your argument goes up in smoke
Seeds that are not well-husbanded will dry up and fade.
I don't recall seeing husbandry lessons with the mustard seed. Just IF you had faith the size of a mustard seed, THEN....
So now there is some translational stuff that doesn't fall in the "ubiquitous understanding" of the mustard seed that says that we had to.... No, Jesus said what he said clearly. IF....THEN.
Did you see the apple seed parable the Lord showed me? Seed on the pulpit: Housekeeping mistakes it for dust and goes to get the vacuum. Grounds mistakes it for compost and goes to fetch the bin. Stewardship sees it...and declares, "Oh look! An orchard." And moves to buy the whole field. He has a lifetime of service ahead for that seed.
This is also false...We are not always wrong.
Where did I say we are "always wrong?" I don't recall saying that ever. I don't see it here.
And at times we could be.
I said something closer to this. Only I left out "could" and said we are. At times. But that nobody -- no group -- is right. We are all wrong.
I had a lifetime ambition to translate St. Exupéry's Le Petit Prince. Every English translation was an assault on my sensibilities...terrible. Until, to my dismay, in 2014 a new translation came out that captured St. Ex's heart even better than I could...I was amazed,
You should get a picture in your head of Dr. Wallace and repeat the bolded phrase above until you can apologize for what you did to his words, and thus to him.
and told my classes to buy that version when we read the French. They could watch how the two languages differ, and what it takes to capture the depth of his whimsy.
No...Too true. You're correct...we're as wrong as we are unwilling to obey.
We are wrong, mostly. We were built that way. We are sinners, not because we sin, but because we were built that way. If this were not true -- if we are sinners because we sin -- then show me one human who is not also God that is sinless.
It is important to believe God. It is equally to know what to believe...and why.
It's important to believe in God. He's got the details. We should simply let the Spirit teach us and we should learn. Should. Until he lies and kills our wives. Then you simply don't want to play the game any longer (except that you mysteriously find yourself on forums defending the truth of his Word - funny about that).