Works question

Sda teaching is if you break the 10 commandments you will go to hell.

You must repent and keep the commandments if you want to be saved.
 

Common Tater

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The proper view of works is that works do not save, but works evidence salvation.

What is the SDA view in a nutshell?
They especially mean the 4th Commandment. Attending church on Sunday will be the Mark of the Beast. Ultimately, your salvation is dependent upon the day that you go to church. Oh, and if you are going to pass the Investigative Judgement, you'd best have perfected your character.
 
The proper view of works is that works do not save, but works evidence salvation.

What is the SDA view in a nutshell?

According to SDA’s teachings under the instruction of SDA’s prophet Ellen White....

1. The work of the Investigative Judgement is to determine which ones of the above believers "are shown to be ENTITLED to its (the atonement of the Cross) BENEFITS.". "Names are accepted, names rejected". (GC p 489, 1939ed)

2. The Investigative Judgement bases judgement of the individual upon "those things which were written in the books, according to their works". (GC p 552, 1939ed)

3. In the Investigative Judgement, each individual "must be tested and found without spot or wrinkle or any such thing" (GC p 556, 1939ed) in order to qualify for the benefit of the Atonement of the Cross of Jesus Christ.
 

Simpletruther

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According to SDA’s teachings under the instruction of SDA’s prophet Ellen White....

1. The work of the Investigative Judgement is to determine which ones of the above believers "are shown to be ENTITLED to its (the atonement of the Cross) BENEFITS.". "Names are accepted, names rejected". (GC p 489, 1939ed)

2. The Investigative Judgement bases judgement of the individual upon "those things which were written in the books, according to their works". (GC p 552, 1939ed)

3. In the Investigative Judgement, each individual "must be tested and found without spot or wrinkle or any such thing" (GC p 556, 1939ed) in order to qualify for the benefit of the Atonement of the Cross of Jesus Christ.
Sounds pretty rank.
 

PeanutGallery

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According to SDA’s teachings under the instruction of SDA’s prophet Ellen White....

1. The work of the Investigative Judgement is to determine which ones of the above believers "are shown to be ENTITLED to its (the atonement of the Cross) BENEFITS.". "Names are accepted, names rejected". (GC p 489, 1939ed)

2. The Investigative Judgement bases judgement of the individual upon "those things which were written in the books, according to their works". (GC p 552, 1939ed)

3. In the Investigative Judgement, each individual "must be tested and found without spot or wrinkle or any such thing" (GC p 556, 1939ed) in order to qualify for the benefit of the Atonement of the Cross of Jesus Christ.
And those with spots are annihilated; short term suffering?
 

Common Tater

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And those with spots are annihilated; short term suffering?
I think that the IJ and its emphasis on works is one of the reasons Adventism supports annihilationism. It would be a bummer if you busted your hump all those years, trying to perfect your character and laboring to make sure your righteousness is up to snuff. only to find you didn't pass the IJ's muster and now you must suffer eternal punishment. Better if, after all that work, you caught some slack and just had to burn a while.
 

JonHawk

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The proper view of works is that works do not save, but works evidence salvation.
"The parable of the wedding garment opens before us a lesson of the highest consequence.​
To the church it is given "that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white," "not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing." Eph. 5:27. The fine linen, says the Scripture, "is the righteousness of saints." Rev. 19:8. It is the righteousness of Christ;​
Only the covering which Christ Himself has provided can make us meet to appear in God's presence.​
And hereby we know that He abideth in us, by the Spirit which He hath given us." This is the genuine evidence of conversion. Whatever our profession, it amounts to nothing unless Christ is revealed in works of righteousness. " [EGW, Christ's Object Lesson p. 309 - p. 314]​

You know that everyone who practices righteousness is born of Him. 1 John 2:29
For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith. 1 John 5:4-5
What is the SDA view in a nutshell?
A little from column A, a little from column B.

"Those who are teaching this doctrine today have much to say in regard to faith and the righteousness of Christ; but they pervert the truth, and make it serve the cause of error. They declare that we have only to believe on Jesus Christ, and that faith is all-sufficient: that the righteousness of Christ is to be the sinner's credentials; that this imputed righteousness fulfills the law for us, and that we are under no obligation to obey the law of God. This class claim that Christ came to save sinners, and that He has saved them. “I am saved,” they will repeat over and over again. But are they saved while transgressing the law of Jehovah? —No." EGW 101​
 
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JonHawk

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You know that He appeared to take away sins; John 3:5
What are Sunday works?
The Resurrection
On the first day of the week...
Was it not necessary for the Christ to suffer these things and to enter His glory? Luke 24:26

He has revealed himself, to take away sin. Heb 9:26
When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high; Heb 1:3
The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3:8
 
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MMDAN

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They especially mean the 4th Commandment. Attending church on Sunday will be the Mark of the Beast. Ultimately, your salvation is dependent upon the day that you go to church. Oh, and if you are going to pass the Investigative Judgement, you'd best have perfected your character.
SDA's seem to teach that we are saved through faith + obeying the 10 commandments (with a heavy emphasis on the 4th commandment). They also teach that the near the end of time the "mark of the best" of Revelation 14 will be placed upon those who worship on Sunday instead of Saturday.


The SDA gospel culminates in "salvation by grace plus law, faith plus works." (Galatians 1:6-9)
 

CrowCross

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SDA's seem to teach that we are saved through faith + obeying the 10 commandments (with a heavy emphasis on the 4th commandment). They also teach that the near the end of time the "mark of the best" of Revelation 14 will be placed upon those who worship on Sunday instead of Saturday.
I've also noticed some of the SDA deny the divinity of Christ.
 

JonHawk

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SDA's seem to teach that we are saved through faith + obeying the 10 commandments (with a heavy emphasis on the 4th commandment). They also teach that the near the end of time the "mark of the best" of Revelation 14 will be placed upon those who worship on Sunday instead of Saturday.
At the end of time, a conflict will arise between those who worship the beast and his image and those who are the true followers of God. What sets these two groups apart is that one group, the true loyal remnant, keeps Saturday as a holy day, and the other group, the fallen and apostate, keeps Sunday as a holy day:

"One class will advocate a gospel of human devisings and will worship the beast and his image... The other class, in marked contrast, will live by the true gospel and 'keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus' (Rev. 14:9,12)... those who reject God's memorial of creatorship--the Bible Sabbath--choosing to worship and honor Sunday...will receive the mark of the beast."2
The SDA gospel culminates in "salvation by grace plus law, faith plus works." (Galatians 1:6-9)
They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved....
But we ought always to thank God for you, brothers and sisters loved by the Lord, because God chose you as firstfruits to be saved through the sanctifying work of the Spirit and through belief in the truth. He called you to this through our gospel, that you might share in the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Thess 2:10-14
 

Common Tater

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I've also noticed some of the SDA deny the divinity of Christ.
Seventh-day Adventists claim to believe in the Trinity, however, you will find that the Adventist "trinity" is not the Trinity that Christians believe in. In Adventism, the Godhead is composed of three different beings united in purpose, not one Being that exists as three separate Persons. Adventism is tritheistic, not trinitarian.
 
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