Year for a day?

No, I believe that we still possess the fallen human nature. Our victory over sin is substantial through Christ, but not complete.
How are we to become righteous and holy if we still have a sin nature? Those in Romans 7:14-25 couldn't who tried to keep the law while having a sin nature. That is why they could not become righteous.

What do you believe "Jesus taking away our sin" means if not completely?
 
Greetings again CharismaticLady,
How are we to become righteous and holy if we still have a sin nature? Those in Romans 7:14-25 couldn't who tried to keep the law while having a sin nature. That is why they could not become righteous.
We overcome sin by faith, not by a present change in human nature.
What do you believe "Jesus taking away our sin" means if not completely?
A partial yet substantive victory now, but we do not become righteous because we do not sin any more. We are accounted righteous because of our affectionate belief of the true Gospel of the Kingdom and Name. Thus it is by means of forgiveness, not perfect obedience. When Jesus returns he will confirm that all our sins have been forgiven, and change our present sinful nature and grant us sinless immortality, and thus Jesus will take away all our sin and sin nature.

Kind regards
Trevor
 
We overcome sin by faith, not by a present change in human nature.

Trevor, you are not the author and finisher of your own faith.
A partial yet substantive victory now, but we do not become righteous because we do not sin any more. We are accounted righteous because of our affectionate belief of the true Gospel of the Kingdom and Name. Thus it is by means of forgiveness, not perfect obedience. When Jesus returns he will confirm that all our sins have been forgiven, and change our present sinful nature and grant us sinless immortality, and thus Jesus will take away all our sin and sin nature.

Jesus takes away our sin nature now. If you die, you will remain a willful sinner forever. Revelation 22:11. But you cannot stop sinning on your own; you need to be baptized in the Holy Spirit- ASK. Luke 11:9-13
 
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Greetings again CharismaticLady,

We overcome sin by faith, not by a present change in human nature.

A partial yet substantive victory now, but we do not become righteous because we do not sin any more. We are accounted righteous because of our affectionate belief of the true Gospel of the Kingdom and Name. Thus it is by means of forgiveness, not perfect obedience. When Jesus returns he will confirm that all our sins have been forgiven, and change our present sinful nature and grant us sinless immortality, and thus Jesus will take away all our sin and sin nature.

Kind regards
Trevor

Trevor, if you know the truth, the truth shall set you free. What does that mean? John 8:32-36 Free from what?

1 John 3:9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

Why can't thy sin if they still have their sin nature as you claim?
 
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Greetings again CharismaticLady,
Jesus takes away our sin nature now.
Philippians 3:20-21 (KJV): 20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: 21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

Kind regards
Trevor
 
Greetings again CharismaticLady,

Philippians 3:20-21 (KJV): 20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: 21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

Kind regards
Trevor

Hi Trevor:

Only our nature is changed now. It is called the "old man" and is our nature. It consists of our spirit and soul. The soul is where the law is written called our heart or conscience. The spirit is our invisible mind, and our reborn spirit is the mind of Christ. 1 Cor. 2:16. They are invisible and now immortal and are housed by our body. Our body has yet to die before it can also become immortal, which is what your post tells us. You have done what many have done and confused the body with the flesh - the flesh is the sin nature.

In Romans 8:8-10 we see Paul not wanting us to make the mistake of thinking the body also is born again now. He calls the sin nature in us, the flesh. It was our sin nature that produced sin and it is the sin Jesus takes out of our human nature, leaving free will, but the Spirit in us empowers us to stay free from sin.

8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. 10 And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
 
Greetings again CharismaticLady,,
Only our nature is changed now.
Romans 8:17–23 (KJV): 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. 18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. 19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. 20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, 21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. 23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

Kind regards
Trevor
 
------The Wedding----
at the wedding there will be
the Father and Mother, Christ and the "Best Men" = friends of the Bridegroom

John 3:29
He that hath the bride is the bridegroom:
but the friend of the bridegroom,
which standeth and heareth him,
rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice:
this my joy therefore is fulfilled
.

then there will be

The Bride and all her Bridesmaids = the Daughters of Jerusalem
(Song of Solomon)

and the "The Guest" at the Wedding

Icy;
Christ does not marry his best men nor all the bridesmaids
and ""ONLY the Bride"" goes into the Bridal Chamber
and no one else ; no not one

another little hint recorded there

And Isaac went out to meditate in the field at the eventide:
and he lifted up his eyes, and saw,
and, behold, the camels were coming.

64 And Rebekah lifted up her eyes,
and when she saw Isaac, she lighted off the camel.

65 For she had said unto the servant,
What man is this that walketh in the field to meet us?
(Who is this man coming to meet us)
And the servant had said,
It is my master:
therefore she took a vail, and covered herself.

Gen.24:67
And Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah's tent,
and took Rebekah, and she became his wife;

And Isaac went out to meditate in the field at the eventide:
and he lifted up his eyes, and saw,
and, behold, the camels were coming.​

and here comes the Bride and her Bridesmaids
And Rebekah arose, and her damsels,
and they rode upon the camels,
and followed the man:
and the servant took Rebekah,
and went his way.​


riding on Dem Camels
any idea what day that was ?????

what would become - Pentecost
at the wedding

the father and mother and son and bride..
how pretty


seriously
.. i prefer to read your posts than all the ‘theologians…’
actually
 
He doesnt use all that arguing
academic way of talking (to us)
(which is everywhere on the forums…
as if many are drunk on koolaid…)

and neither do you @Buzzard

so so nice
 
Greetings again CharismaticLady,,

Romans 8:17–23 (KJV): 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. 18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. 19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. 20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, 21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. 23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

Kind regards
Trevor

What? I already explained this.

We are a triune being, Trevor. SPIRIT, SOUL, AND BODY. If born-again then our spirit and soul have been redeemed. They are our NATURE. But the BODY must wait until it dies and is resurrected, like our spirit and soul did when becoming born again.

New birth: SPIRIT AND SOUL Romans 6:6-7. (becoming a Christian)
Second coming resurrection: BODY 1 Corinthians 15:42
 
Greetings again CharismaticLady,
We are a triune being, Trevor. SPIRIT, SOUL, AND BODY.
We are ONE being. The soul and spirit do not contain a separate entity. and when we die we return to the dust awaiting the resurrection Genesis 3:19, 2 Timothy 4:1,6,7,8. At least your contact with the SDAs should have taught you that there are no immortal souls. You should have held on to your early SDA teaching in this area,

Kind regards
Trevor
 
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