Your explainations please

[Abounds]

@Saxon
I wonder what the vulgate says?
[1Pe 3:20 VUL] 20 qui increduli fuerant aliquando quando expectabat Dei patientia in diebus Noe cum fabricaretur arca in qua pauci id est octo animae salvae factae sunt per aquam

As DO ALL ORIGINAL TRANSLATIONS

 

[Abounds]

Bible in Basic English is one you will hate.

1 Peter 3:20 BBE — Who, in the days of Noah, went against God's orders; but God in his mercy kept back the punishment, while Noah got ready the ark, in which a small number, that is to say, eight persons, got salvation through water:


@Saxon Your translation game was a flop and as usual your post is simply opinion given your opinions on sin being washed off the earth "everyone died" "no one was saved" yeah 8 were, saved. Because of a Covenant with God. Must be fun not to read the Bible for what it says.

Have you ever read past Ephesians 1?

Ephesians 5:25-26 KJV — Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,


Oh my oh my.

 

[Kade Rystalmane]

I think I won. Thanks for playing.

He had to go find three translations that agreed with him to make his point. The real argument is in the Greek. The preposition dia:

primary preposition denoting the channel of an act; through (in very wide applications, local, causal, or occasional):—after, always, among, at, to avoid, because of (that), briefly, by, for (cause) … fore, from, in, by occasion of, of, by reason of, for sake, that, thereby, therefore, × though, through(-out), to, wherefore, with (-in).

The water was the channel for the saving, the causal force. It was dia the agency of water that they were saved.

 

[Saxon]

NIV
[1Pe 3:20 NIV] 20 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water,

NKJV
[1Pe 3:20 NKJV] 20 who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while [the] ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water.

CSB
[1Pe 3:20 CSB] 20 who in the past were disobedient, when God patiently waited in the days of Noah while the ark was being prepared. In it a few -- that is, eight people -- were saved through water.

NET
[1Pe 3:20 NET] 20 after they were disobedient long ago when God patiently waited in the days of Noah as an ark was being constructed. In the ark a few, that is eight souls, were delivered through water.

Fun Game

RSV
[1Pe 3:20 RSV] 20 who formerly did not obey, when God's patience waited in the days of Noah, during the building of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were saved through water.

ASV
[1Pe 3:20 ASV] 20 that aforetime were disobedient, when the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water:

YKT
[1Pe 3:20 YLT] 20 who sometime disbelieved, when once the long-suffering of God did wait, in days of Noah -- an ark being preparing -- in which few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water;

DBY
[1Pe 3:20 DBY] 20 heretofore disobedient, when the longsuffering of God waited in [the] days of Noah while the ark was preparing, into which few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water:

WEB
[1Pe 3:20 WEB] 20 Who formerly were disobedient, when once the long-suffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was preparing, in which few, that is, eight souls, were saved by water.

HNV
[1Pe 3:20 HNV] 20 who before were disobedient, when God waited patiently in the days of Noach, while the teivah was being built. In it, few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water.

and for fun

KJV
[1Pe 3:20 KJV] 20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

I think I won. Thanks for playing.

We are still saved by grace; not water.

Some acts of grace:

Matthew 26:28 for this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him

Hebrews 1:2 hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

Hebrews 1:3 who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

Hebrews 9:13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:

Hebrews 9:14 how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

1 Peter 1:18 forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;

1 Peter 1:19 but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

1 John 1:7 but if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Revelation 1:5 and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

Revelation 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

Revelation 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

Has the blood of Jesus been forgotten? It seems that way. There is not a hint that there is any other means of Grace involved with salvation by the grace of God.

Purchased with his own blood; now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him; how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works; the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin; washed us from our sins in his own blood; and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood; made them white in the blood of the Lamb; by himself purged our sins. With statements such as these, where is there room for water baptism? Why hold on to useless traditions of men that are in direct contradiction to the authority of Christ and scriptures??

 

[Saxon]

Bible in Basic English is one you will hate.

1 Peter 3:20 BBE — Who, in the days of Noah, went against God's orders; but God in his mercy kept back the punishment, while Noah got ready the ark, in which a small number, that is to say, eight persons, got salvation through water:

Still, the water saved no one. All that were in the water died. Those in the ark, the type of Christ, came safely through the water.

@Saxon Your translation game was a flop and as usual your post is simply opinion given your opinions on sin being washed off the earth "everyone died" "no one was saved" yeah 8 were, saved. Because of a Covenant with God. Must be fun not to read the Bible for what it says.

Sin was not washed off the Earth. How long was it before the human race was back sinning their lives away? Not long.

8 in the ark; none in the water. Must be fun not to read the Bible for what it says.

Have you ever read past Ephesians 1?

I have.

Ephesians 5:25-26 KJV — Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word.

By the word.

John 15:3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

Oh my oh my.

What ever.

 

[Son Of Saxon]

Still, the water saved no one. All that were in the water died. Those in the ark, the type of Christ, came safely through the water.

Sin was not washed off the Earth. How long was it before the human race was back sinning their lives away? Not long.

When you were saved did you stop sinning. Not a tenable response as it negates the reality of our sinful nature solely to help your unwillingness to turn from your own non-contextual interpretation of baptism which you firmly hold against clear scripture..

8 in the ark; none in the water. Must be fun not to read the Bible for what it says.

Saved by and through the water. That's exactly what the bible says in any translation. So abounds is correct. The water Cleaned sin from the earth while maintaining one righteous man and his family in the ark. The water brings them up and away from the sin of the earth.

When we are Baptized God REMOVES THE SIN FROM US AND FORGIVES US AND GIVES US A NEW SPIRIT as Peter says. This is the WASHING of REGENERATION. as Paul says. Water cleanses us of sin so we can be saved in Christ, or rather we are saved in the body of christ the chuch... The Ark....

I have.

By the word.

Washing of Water...BY the word The Word and the water together....make a baptism.

John 15:3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

Yes, Jesus spoke directly as God and Man to his DISCIPLES and made them clean. This is before his resurrection before Baptism receives Gods work through his son to cleanse US of sin or the workings of the Holy Spirit. ALL things before Christ's Death and resurrection, are of the old Covenant. Context is important at all times.

What ever.

Yeah I bet.

 

[Son Of Saxon]

We are still saved by grace; not water.

We are SAVED BY Christ's death and Ressurection. The mode in which this salvation is received is through the water and the word. Baptism is a MEANS of Grace. A way in which God has granted us membership in the Body Of Christ. We are Buried and Resurrected in Christ's Death through Baptism. Just as Paul says.

Rom 6:4
4 Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life.
Col 2:12
12 having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.
Gal 3:27
27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.

We are baptized INTO Christ.

Got anymore pre-resurrection non-baptismal scripture to pretend means anything in this conversation?

Key things are Cotnext of the scripture, before and after the resurrection, what is being related? That's how you interpret the bible, that's how you learn about Baptism. You don't take a scripture by Paul in Ephesians, and try and forget all other scripture and tune every other towards the one scripture you like....while also forgetting everything else Paul says because you don't like that he says it.

Either only some of the bible is true, or you cant read. I am gonna go with the latter. lol

With Love Your Son

 

[Kade Rystalmane]

We are still saved by grace; not water.

A false dichotomy that shows a lack of understanding of both grace and water's role in NT immersion.

Has the blood of Jesus been forgotten? It seems that way. There is not a hint that there is any other means of Grace involved with salvation by the grace of God.

Then you aren't reading everything since I have repeatedly shown that the blood is contacted in the water (Romans 6; 1 John 5:6-8).

Purchased with his own blood; now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him; how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works; the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin; washed us from our sins in his own blood; and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood; made them white in the blood of the Lamb; by himself purged our sins. With statements such as these, where is there room for water baptism? Why hold on to useless traditions of men that are in direct contradiction to the authority of Christ and scriptures??

Again, false dichotomy. You are making it either/or because you guys are addicted to "alone". Its both, each in their proper place.

 

[Saxon]

A false dichotomy that shows a lack of understanding of both grace and water's role in NT immersion.

Show me from the Bible. Explain grace. And water's role in NT immersion.

Then you aren't reading everything since I have repeatedly shown that the blood is contacted in the water (Romans 6; 1 John 5:6-8).

Romans 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

John 5:6 When Jesus saw him lie, and knew that he had been now a long time in that case, he saith unto him, Wilt thou be made whole?
John 5:7 The impotent man answered him, Sir, I have no man, when the water is troubled, to put me into the pool: but while I am coming, another steppeth down before me.
John 5:8 Jesus saith unto him, Rise, take up thy bed, and walk.

There is no blood or water involved here. You are out of context and your gyro has toppled.

Again, false dichotomy. You are making it either/or because you guys are addicted to "alone". Its both, each in their proper place.

You need to explain what you are saying. You must be trying to speak in tongues; its all babble.

 

[Kade Rystalmane]

Show me from the Bible. Explain grace. And water's role in NT immersion.

Romans 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

John 5:6 When Jesus saw him lie, and knew that he had been now a long time in that case, he saith unto him, Wilt thou be made whole?
John 5:7 The impotent man answered him, Sir, I have no man, when the water is troubled, to put me into the pool: but while I am coming, another steppeth down before me.
John 5:8 Jesus saith unto him, Rise, take up thy bed, and walk.

There is no blood or water involved here. You are out of context and your gyro has toppled.

Romans 6 (1-18)
1 John 5:6-8

That was a semi-colon, not a colon and a bad return. My apologies.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

But, as you say, this is your thinking. Where does the Bible say this?

Actually, it's there. Romans 6 is a good one. Also, John 3:16 is one verse. However, just a little bit earlier in the chapter, Jesus said that for one to be reborn, they have to be reborn of water and spirit. 1 Peter 3:21 explicitly says that baptism saves. Eph. 5:26 says that we are saved by the washing of water by the Word. Etc.

So then explain away Eph 2:8,9. You'll have to for your "doctrine" to stand don'cha know.

 

[Son Of Saxon]

Grace
Grace is the free favor of God (The Grace of the Father) towards sinners. This Grace forms the basis of the whole work of redemption.

Eph 1:6-7 6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. 7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

How does This Grace work with NT immersion?

Rom 6:1-18 1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? 3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also [in the likeness] of [his] resurrection: 6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with [him], that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. 7 For he that is dead is freed from sin. 8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: 9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. 10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. 11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. 12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. 13 Neither yield ye your members [as] instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members [as] instruments of righteousness unto God. 14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. 15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. 16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? 17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. 18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

This ENTIRE part of Romans is about A form of Doctrine that was DELIVERED to us. That Doctrine is Baptism

Seems this is completely in line with Eph 2:8-9. He is explaining God's Grace, and how we are saved, he is involving Christ's resurrection which is what Faith is anchored to.

Eph 2:8-9 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Something I wonder if you guys know or not...but Romans and Ephesians are written by Paul. Romans comes first and was actually written before Ephesians not just in NT order of appearance.

Shall we see if Paul is consistent about this passage in Romans?

Col 2:12 12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with [him] through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

This also ALBEIT has possibly been written through a scribe is again Paul. AND AGAIN.... Notice its consistency with your greatly misunderstood but equally clung too Eph 2:8-9. He even Steps on your "ItS A wORk" non-sense and makes it clear it's All Gods. But I bet you think Faith is something YOU have yourself and have applied it YOURSELF to God Grace. Show me where that is in the bible please.... @Bob Carabbio @Saxon

 

[Son Of Saxon]

Mar 10:38-40 38 But Jesus said unto them, Ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that I drink of? and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? 39 And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized: 40 But to sit on my right hand and on my left hand is not mine to give; but [it shall be given to them] for whom it is prepared.

What baptism Did Jesus Have?

Mat 3:16-17 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

We also become Sons who are pleasing to God with Baptism. @Saxon and @Bob Carabbio
And why Did Jesus do this?
Mat 3:15 15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer [it to be so] now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.

Don't forget. I have many more Coinciding scriptures with Baptism. So many you both happily ignore, to cling to a verse that thus describes baptism. Here is a sample. The context of them is also always intriguing....but ill leave that to you to look into.
Heb 10:22 22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

Eze 36:25 25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

 

[Son Of Saxon]

Sorry, I just had a chance to read over. It was split because of the characters... I didn't mention that, and I meant to colour code righteousness throughout. Because of what's Christ says to John before his Baptism.

instruments of righteousness unto God.
servants of righteousness.
Jesus Fulfills all righteousness with his water baptism and so do we. Paul says we yield ourselves to be instruments of righteousness, and that we obey God as servants of righteousness. Paul ties that all in with Grace.and being Under it...which is the new covenant

 

[Kade Rystalmane]

Show me from the Bible. Explain grace.

This is what God's saving Grace is according to scripture (lots of scripture in fact).

And water's role in NT immersion.

It is what we are buried in. The Holy Spirit is who we are buried by. If you just studied the concept of water throughout the scriptures, really studied what the Bible taught about water and its importance, you would see for yourself. I will provide some guidance.

Genesis 1:2 - water was present before even light.
Genesis 6-9; 1 Pet. 3:20-21 - water destroyed the wicked world of sin and saved Noah and his family from that same sin
Ex. 14 - water immersed the nation of Israel who went down into the water as slaves and came up free from bondage, a new nation; while the sin (represented in the Egyptian army that pursued) was destroyed by the water - the same as the Flood did.
Genesis 1:20; John 4:14; Rev. 21:6 - water is life
Gen. 18:4; Ex. 29:4; Lev. 8:6; 2 Kings 5; Ezek. 16:4, 9; John 5:4; Eph. 5:26; Heb. 10:22 - water is cleansing
Num. 8:17; 19:21; Matt. 8:32; Eph. 5:26 - water is purifying and separates from corruption and filth
John 2 - water is turned to wine, wine represents blood, thus Jesus' first miracle shows a connection between water and blood and marriage (His marriage to the church which is His bride).
John 3 - water is required for rebirth into the kingdom of Heaven
John 19:34; 1 John 5:6-8 - water and blood are again tied together
Acts 8:36-39 - the eunuch saw the necessity of water immersion
Every conversion account in the NT includes water immersion; not every account concerns immersion IN the Holy Spirit (where the Holy Spirit is the element to be immersed in such as we see in Acts 2 and 10).

Romans 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

Keep reading:

3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

John 5:6 When Jesus saw him lie, and knew that he had been now a long time in that case, he saith unto him, Wilt thou be made whole?
John 5:7 The impotent man answered him, Sir, I have no man, when the water is troubled, to put me into the pool: but while I am coming, another steppeth down before me.
John 5:8 Jesus saith unto him, Rise, take up thy bed, and walk.

There is no blood or water involved here. You are out of context and your gyro has toppled.

Or you misread what I typed. Here is the passage I referenced:

1 John 5:6-8
6This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

There is both water and blood tied inextricably together here. They, along with the spirit agree in one, just as John recorded in John 3:3-5.

You need to explain what you are saying. You must be trying to speak in tongues; its all babble.

I hope this has been clearer.

 

[Abounds]

With Love Your Son

The Apple jumped off the tree and landed in a wheatfield.?

 

[Abounds]

@Kade Rystalmane No ones going to get them to reject their self-made theories not even clear scripture! Or else we wouldn't be having to teach them how to read the Bible.

 

[Kade Rystalmane]

@Kade Rystalmane No ones going to get them to reject their self-made theories not even clear scripture! Or else we wouldn't be having to teach them how to read the Bible.

Perhaps, but as long as they are asking or wanting me to show them, I'm okay to answer.

 

[Nic]

He who believes and eats a steak shall be saved. Equally accurate.

It would be fair use and right if Christ opted for steak as an earthly element for the forgiveness of sins because of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ who had ALL AUTHORITY. However in the old testament it was coal for a singular sacrament for one. It was water with baptism, bread and wine - body and blood with the Lord's Supper. All of these tied to the forgiveness of sins because of God and his authority. This same authority spoke creation into existence. What's easier to say, pick up thy mat and walk or your sins are forgiven? Let there be light..., be baptised for the forgiveness of sins sealed with the authority of the godhead. Well that's my take, be well!

Nic🙂

 

[Saxon]

It would be fair use and right if Christ opted for steak as an earthly element for the forgiveness of sins because of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ who had ALL AUTHORITY. However in the old testament it was coal for a singular sacrament for one. It was water with baptism, bread and wine - body and blood with the Lord's Supper. All of these tied to the forgiveness of sins because of God and his authority. This same authority spoke creation into existence. What's easier to say, pick up thy mat and walk or your sins are forgiven? Let there be light..., be baptised for the forgiveness of sins sealed with the authority of the godhead. Well that's my take, be well!

Nic🙂

For by a virtue coming from God, the unmerited divine assistance given to humans for their regeneration or sanctification are you saved through faith and that not of yourselves it is voluntarily transferred by one person to another without compensation not of performance of moral or religious acts lest any man should boast.

We both know that it isn't steak. What you are not willing to know, as scripture says, is that God does the saving by grace and that it is through faith. That is the only way. To clarify the statement he also stated that it is NOT of yourselves, YOU had nothing to do with it as far as the act of salvation goes, he did it all. It was Christ that was and is the sacrifice that payed for your sins, NOT water baptism. It was his blood that was spilled and offered. It was blood, not water, that washed away your sins. To further clarify that anything that man does to gain salvation is totally useless, he states that it is a gift, not a reward for anything we have tried to do. There is no action that you participate in, by force or voluntarily, that will cause God to save you. God is NEVER obligated to save you even if you repent, confess, be baptised or any other thing that you can dream up. The only thing that saves anyone is GRACE, the grace of God.


Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Ephesians 2:9 not of works, lest any man should boast.

1 John 1:7 but if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Revelation 1:5 and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,