I'm still going to challenge you and you can ignore it all you want. Was her forgiveness of sins based upon Christ Blood or something else?
Everything comes from God. The very soul of men comes from God. Surely you can't believe every soul is saved because such came from God?
Every good and perfect comes from above. It rains on the just and unjust alike.
In like manner, Faith can exist without application. Faith in action is a different "thing".
The women in the Luke 7 took action that resulted her forgiveness of sin. I believe what Jesus said.
Illogical and false, how can you know "Faith can exist" or occur "without" a believing mind to exist in and with? There is no faith without a believing mind, in what way and place can faith exist and occur outside of or without a believing mind?
Actually I believe that she believed what Jesus believed and that was what caused her to take the action she took.
Devils believe and tremble.
Heb 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.
There are plenty of people in this world that believe God, yet they refuse to express faith in seeking Him.
I never said otherwise.
You misunderstand faith. Saving faith says... "I want this".... "This is for me".... "I believe God will do exactly what He said He will do".... FOR ME!
Devils don't believe what Christ and believers believe in and about God.
Faith is the belief that believer's have in and about the truth and reality of God.
Sure they do. They have no sacrifice to claim. Jesus didn't die for them.
You can believe whatever you want about God. True or not.
What matters is you believe God will do what He said He will do for you. That is "taking Him at His Word". There have been plenty of things I've changed in getting to know Him more. When I expressed faith that God will do what HE said he would do, FOR ME.....I was born again.
If devils believed the same thing that Christ and believers believed in and about God, then they would be believers too silly.
Strawman. You are the one with the illogical and false belief. And the above is a demonstration of that false belief you have about God.
What matters to God is that we believe as He does and the believer gets to know and experience His truth and reality.
When Jesus told her, your sins are forgiven, was it based on His shed blood ? Simple yes or NoMaybe this will help....
The Blood of Jesus Christ will eradicate sin. It is more than just a "covering". It is more than just "cleansing".
However, that fact does not establish the foundation wherein all people benefit.
You're making a Universalist argument and don't even realize it.
When Jesus told her, your sins are forgiven, was it based on His shed blood ? Simple yes or No
No. They wouldn't. Jesus didn't take upon Himself the form of angels to die in their place.
Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
Heb 2:16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
Heb 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
Heb 2:18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.
His Eternal priesthood was to man. Not angels.
You're ignoring the fact that your beliefs have changed through your experience. Much of it false about God. We ALL have a sinful past.
If this were true, then God would never fellowship with any of us. Our fellowship is in the Son. Not in our own weaknesses/strengths.
So do you intend here that God forgives Sin apart from His Justice being Satisfied by the Person and Work of the Lord Jesus Christ ? Was this women sin forgiven because they were imputed to Christ as her Surety and Substitute ? Yea or NayNo it was based upon His Person as God. Only God can forgive sin. Calvary was future. Luke 7 He had not died for sin.
Was the women sins forgiven based upon the fact she was one of His Sheep that He was going to lay down His Life for as Her Surety ? Yes or No friendAnswers are seldom as simple as "yes or no". My children still think they can get what they want by forcing such a simple answer out of me. If they don't want to listen, it usually involves a "no"....
So are you saying God didnt forgive sins based upon Christs blood and righteousness before He actually died on the cross ? Yes or No so its clearNo it was based upon His Person as God. Only God can forgive sin. Calvary was future. Luke 7 He had not died for sin.