Your Name (2016)

LifeIn

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I mentioned this movie in another forum, but this is a more appropriate place to post it. Has anyone seen it and what did you think of it?
 

e v e

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in reality dreams happen for the soul in the other world...

and what happens there can be related to real things.
 

LifeIn

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in reality dreams happen for the soul in the other world...

and what happens there can be related to real things.
That's sort of what happens in the movie too. The dreams are actually body swapping experiences with a real person who happens to be separated by 3 years, which the characters gradually realize. The guy from 3 years in the future tries to save the people of a town from being destroyed by a comet that will strike that town later that evening. That's just a minor spoiler for Kimi no Na wa. (Your Name).
 

e v e

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I used to watch anime in the 90s... but I don't anymore. There was the ghost in the shell: innocence which was well done, and there was Studio Ghibli...all their children's stuff.

Steamboy wasn't bad though because it showed the harm of the industrial revolution and capital.
 

LifeIn

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I used to watch anime in the 90s... but I don't anymore. There was the ghost in the shell: innocence which was well done, and there was Studio Ghibli...all their children's stuff.
I never watched any anime until I was in my 60's, so when I viewed the Ghibli films, I saw them from an adult perspective. I suspect that is quite a different experience from seeing them as a youth. The film "Grave of the Fireflies" is not for kids at all. "Kiki's Delivery Service" has something to say about the disillusionment of working a job - a common adult problem. In "Only Yesterday", a 27 year old adult reminisces about her childhood, but is definitely from the perspective of an adult coming to terms with her past.

Since you posted about "Back to the Future", I will mention that "Your Name" is also about changing the past, but with much higher stakes than making the dad more assertive and putting Biff in his place.
 
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e v e

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I never watched any anime until I was in my 60's, so when I viewed the Ghibli films, I saw them from an adult perspective. I suspect that is quite a different experience from seeing them as a youth. The film "Grave of the Fireflies" is not for kids at all. "Kiki's Delivery Service" has something to say about the disillusionment of working a job - a common adult problem. In "Only Yesterday", a 27 year old adult reminisces about her childhood, but is definitely from the perspective of an adult coming to terms with her past.

Since you posted about "Back to the Future", I will mention that "Your Name" is also about changing the past, but with much higher stakes than making the dad more assertive and putting Biff in his place.
do you think it’s possible?
 

LifeIn

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do you think it’s possible?
It's called suspension of disbelief. We do it when we watch Back to the Future, and we do it when we watch Your Name. In reality, no. But that does not detract from the enjoyment of those movies.
 

e v e

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It's called suspension of disbelief. We do it when we watch Back to the Future, and we do it when we watch Your Name. In reality, no. But that does not detract from the enjoyment of those movies.
I think it has possibility… in relation to what God will do in restoring eden.

the second law of this matrix prevents it seemingly… necessary in a domed/enclosed system. energy dissipates in a linear fashion here, something carnap discussed as the amount of energy needed to reverse a process given entropy.…. But God’s not bound by that system.

anyway. i think i can find your movie suggestion or will try to.
 
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e v e

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I never watched any anime until I was in my 60's, so when I viewed the Ghibli films, I saw them from an adult perspective. I suspect that is quite a different experience from seeing them as a youth. The film "Grave of the Fireflies" is not for kids at all. "Kiki's Delivery Service" has something to say about the disillusionment of working a job - a common adult problem. In "Only Yesterday", a 27 year old adult reminisces about her childhood, but is definitely from the perspective of an adult coming to terms with her past.

Since you posted about "Back to the Future", I will mention that "Your Name" is also about changing the past, but with much higher stakes than making the dad more assertive and putting Biff in his place.
Never heard of grave of the fireflies.

There is a lovely one I will have to post later as I forgot the title. It’s a more soft garden like animation.
 

e v e

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It's called suspension of disbelief. We do it when we watch Back to the Future, and we do it when we watch Your Name. In reality, no. But that does not detract from the enjoyment of those movies.
aristotle goes on about it in his text on poetics. : )

But what to do if not Greek (in mindset) and not inclined to agree with him?
 

LifeIn

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I think it has possibility… in relation to what God will do in restoring eden.

the second law of this matrix prevents it seemingly… necessary in a domed/enclosed system. energy dissipates in a linear fashion here, something carnap discussed as the amount of energy needed to reverse a process given an entropy.…. But God’s not bound by that system.

anyway. i think i can find your movie suggestion or will try to.
Good. I hope you like it. As for God and the past, to God there is no past, present, or future, since He is outside of time and sees it all at once. If God changed the past, we would never know, because to our memory, it would be the way things always were. Therefore awareness of the change would not be possible for us.

Never heard of grave of the fireflies.
Grave of the Fireflies is the story of an orphaned brother and a little sister during the final stages of World War II in Japan as it was being bombed. Both children die from neglect and starvation. It is real downer, but beautiful in a melancholy way. It is one film that I'm glad I watched it once, but I have no desire to watch it again, unlike many of the other Ghibli films.
 
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LifeIn

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Here are some spoilers for "Your Name" that don't really spoil the enjoyment of the movie:

The story involves a boy living in Tokyo and girl living in a remote village in the countryside who, when they go to sleep, start dreaming that they are living each other's life. But they both think it is just a dream, until the reactions of the people around gradually makes them realize they are actually swapping bodies several times a week at random. The two finally realize the reality of what is going on 30 minutes into the film. They start leaving notes for each other on their phones and set up rules ("no touching, no baths", etc.) so they can work through this strange thing that is happening. There is brief montage of ways in which they mess up (or fix up, depending on your point of view) each other's lives. Now we are at 45 minutes into the film, when suddenly the body switching stops. Because of the way dreams work, they never really connected in real life. The boy does not even know where in the countryside the girl lives. But now he in invested in her, having lived some of her life, and he goes on a quest to find her in real life. He is an architecture student and very good at drawing, and he remembers the look of the town and the lake. So he draws these pictures from memory, does some research on line, and then travels by rail to Hida, the most likely area, based on the mountains he saw in the distance. Two of his friends join him on the search. Although they think he is a bit crazy, they are concerned for him because of his recent erratic behavior. After showing his pictures to various people of the area and not having any luck, the boy is about to give up and return home when a waitress at a restaurant recognizes the drawing of the lake. Her husband (who runs the restaurant) was born and raised in that town. It is at that time when it is revealed that the town was destroyed by a fragment of a comet -- three years ago. (It is the comet we see at the opening of the film.) Hundreds of people died, including the girl he is looking for. They go to the site of what remains and witness the aftermath of the destruction of the town, Itomori. But the boy is not ready to giveup. OK, that's as far as I can go without really spoiling the movie for you. Let's just say there are several more twists and reveals ahead.
 
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