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The brazen laver

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    The brazen laver.This laver, Cyril tells us, was the symbol of baptism. It was not the symbol of dipping. Aaron and his sons did not wash in this vessel. Would not a command for several persons to wash their hands and feet in the same vessel, be, at any time, incredible? Would it not be pre-eminently incredible, that after one had washed his feet in a vessel of water, another should be required to wash his hands in the same vessel for a religious purification? But we are not left to reject, by inference, this singular conception; we are most distinctly told that the water was to be taken out of the laverἐ ἀῦὕ闓wash with water out of it. But Dr. Carson would immerse the priests in the brazen sea, (p. 444,)Such things as they offered for burnt offering, they washed in them; but the sea was for the priests to wash in. Are not these immersions? Are not these different immersions even in the temple? That is to say, he would make the priests climb up over these twelve oxen, and then climb up five cubits higher, and plunge into twenty thousand gallons of water to wash! How many times a day this was done; or, how many this water purified before it became impure, and had to be drawn off, and supplied with twenty thousand gallons of fresh water, we are not told.

    An Inquiry into the Usage of and the Nature of Judaic Baptism
    Let God's word speak and everyman be silent