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    For a lutherite to give a clear concise answer to a lost sinner who asks what must I do to be saved ?
    No conviction,No conversion
    John 16:8
    And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

  • #2
    Originally posted by Bigboy View Post
    For a lutherite to give a clear concise answer to a lost sinner who asks what must I do to be saved ?
    Only if they're Born again themselves. Many Lutherans are.

    There are in my experience even saved Baptists. I was led to the Lord by one (with the conviction of the Holy Spirit as the prime mover)!!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bigboy View Post
      For a lutherite to give a clear concise answer to a lost sinner who asks what must I do to be saved ?
      lol.......

      Why don't you respond to the lutherans in the first place before you start spamming the forums with EDITED threads?
      Last edited by Mod10; 11-30-18, 02:23 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Bigboy View Post
        For a lutherite to give a clear concise answer to a lost sinner who asks what must I do to be saved ?
        Not a great fan of hypotheticals, but do we get to be in prison praying and singing hymns and then there is an earthquake that opens the doors and looses our bonds? And d OK es the guard who has been listening to us all night and who now fears for his life then ask us, what must I do to be saved?

        That may seem tongue in cheek, but the point is that there was a lot of preparation of the questioner prior to his question. What is the preparation of the questioner in your hypothetical and how much does the Christian know of that preparation?
        Test all things and praise God from whom all blessings flow!

        Peace,
        BJ -Bear
        VDMA (1 Peter 1:25)
        WELS

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

          Only if they're Born again themselves. Many Lutherans are.

          There are in my experience even saved Baptists. I was led to the Lord by one (with the conviction of the Holy Spirit as the prime mover)!!
          And most Baptists are our dear brothers and sisters in Christ.
          "I am tired of being treated like a mushroom--they keep me in the dark and feed me manure!" (reasons why a Mormon was leaving the LDS church)
          "What people don't realize is how much religion costs. They think faith is a big electric blanket, when of course, it is the cross."--Flannery O'Connor
          "I am a Missouri Synod Lutheran--NOT REFORMED/CALVINIST. PLEASE learn the difference."
          "The truth may hurt for a little while, but a lie hurts forever."--anonymous
          "If Jesus isn't THE WAY, then there is nothing else."--Bob

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BJ BEAR View Post

            Not a great fan of hypotheticals, but do we get to be in prison praying and singing hymns and then there is an earthquake that opens the doors and looses our bonds? And d OK es the guard who has been listening to us all night and who now fears for his life then ask us, what must I do to be saved?

            That may seem tongue in cheek, but the point is that there was a lot of preparation of the questioner prior to his question. What is the preparation of the questioner in your hypothetical and how much does the Christian know of that preparation?
            Jesus once offered this as a response to that very question.
            Mark 10:17-21
            17 And as he was setting out on his journey, a man ran up and knelt before him and asked him, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” 18 And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.19 You know the commandments: ‘Do not murder, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and mother.’”20 And he said to him, “Teacher, all these I have kept from my youth.” 21 And Jesus, looking at him, loved him, and said to him, “You lack one thing: go, sell all that you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
            I think it's of interest to note Jesus let the law and gospel work without Jesus saying something like,
            'Now wait a minute don't go away sad, I was halfway kidding, let me clear it up a bit and tell you what I meant to say was just confess your past sins and you'll be set to inherit eternal life.'
            Last edited by Nic; 11-30-18, 04:07 PM.
            1Co 1:30 And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption,
            1Co 1:31 so that, as it is written, "Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bonnie View Post

              And most Baptists are our dear brothers and sisters in Christ.
              Yes, but there seems to be an air about baptists when it comes to being locked into what may be well deemed as Baptist absolutes. It's as if a legal wrangling is always going on just beneath the surface, that is so persistent, it doesn't take much for it to break the surface in conversations.
              I like baptists as much as any other genuine believer, but I get a bit amused when I see this stuff so prevalent. Oh course every group most likely has some variation on this theme. Some charismatic types are guilty of using their ideas of tongues, prophecy and prayer language as what I regard as hyper-mystical or spookiness (official theological jargon ) to them when I visit with them. Some of these go so far as to condemn other professing Christians who are not Azusa Street new teaching adherents. But that's enough for examples.

              Nic
              Last edited by Nic; 11-30-18, 04:15 PM.
              1Co 1:30 And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption,
              1Co 1:31 so that, as it is written, "Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Nic View Post

                Jesus once offered this as a response to that very question.
                Mark 10:17-21
                17 And as he was setting out on his journey, a man ran up and knelt before him and asked him, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” 18 And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.19 You know the commandments: ‘Do not murder, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and mother.’”20 And he said to him, “Teacher, all these I have kept from my youth.” 21 And Jesus, looking at him, loved him, and said to him, “You lack one thing: go, sell all that you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
                I think it's of interest to note Jesus let the law and gospel work without Jesus saying something like,
                'Now wait a minute don't go away sad, I was halfway kidding, let me clear it up a bit and tell you what I meant to say was just confess your past sins and you'll be set to inherit eternal life.'
                Great post, Nic!
                Test all things and praise God from whom all blessings flow!

                Peace,
                BJ -Bear
                VDMA (1 Peter 1:25)
                WELS

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bigboy View Post
                  For a lutherite to give a clear concise answer to a lost sinner who asks what must I do to be saved ?
                  So far the lutherites have NO answer.
                  No conviction,No conversion
                  John 16:8
                  And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bigboy View Post

                    So far the lutherites have NO answer.
                    Bigboy,
                    Jesus provided an answer yet he too failed your pop quiz. If Jesus failed we are all in good company, no?

                    p.s.
                    I was going to answer your last question of me, but I can't find it in the midst of the recent thread activity. Maybe you can help me find it?

                    Nic
                    1Co 1:30 And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption,
                    1Co 1:31 so that, as it is written, "Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Nic View Post

                      Yes, but there seems to be an air about baptists when it comes to being locked into what may be well deemed as Baptist absolutes.

                      Nic
                      It's one of the most amazing things I've seen. To declare some justified by faith then judge them in minutiae. I know not all the radical reformed are this way but they all seem to have specific rules on the proper application of something that the say only gets you wet.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bigboy View Post

                        So far the lutherites have NO answer.
                        yah we have. We've answered your questions time and time again. But since legalism is your true motive you tend to stick your fingers in your ears and yell LALALALALALA until you get the desired answer. It's why you never respond to our arguments.

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                        • #13
                          This is the kind of stuff that happens when the gospel ceases to be objective true good news to and for all men.

                          It also looks like another demonstration of the error of trying to make an inviolable doctrine or command out of an example depicted in Scripture. What else can it be called when the presentation of the Lord's answer is considered to not be an answer?

                          Like the Lord we care more about the person than emulating a legalistically stacked game of out of context Bible trivia.
                          Test all things and praise God from whom all blessings flow!

                          Peace,
                          BJ -Bear
                          VDMA (1 Peter 1:25)
                          WELS

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bigboy View Post
                            For a lutherite to give a clear concise answer to a lost sinner who asks what must I do to be saved ?
                            The answer is Repent and be baptized.
                            Mark 9:24 Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.

                            “Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things,
                            but more frequently than not struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God.” ― Martin Luther


                            Muretus "Call no man worthless for whom Christ died!"

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Thekla View Post

                              The answer is Repent and be baptized.
                              The theif on the cross repented........but no baptism.........so your answer is wrong.

                              No conviction,No conversion
                              John 16:8
                              And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

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