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Proof that Jesus used figurative language at the last supper; 'This is my body'

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  • #76

    Originally posted by Conqueror View Post

    “Therefore if they say to you ....
    ‘Look, the Christ is in the inner rooms!’
    - tabernacles
    do not believe it.
    (Mat 24:26).

    Originally posted by Thekla View Post
    I do believe that at that time he could appear to people as a rock.


    Originally posted by Thekla View Post

    The Lutheran Cult believes the Bible. You don't, and you don't see a problem with that.
    Jesus, the pet rock of the Israelites. .

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    • #77
      Don't waste time with this kind of reply. I've quoted the Bible. Jesus is called the rock many times. Show me in the Bible where he isn't the rock. You don't believe in most of the scriptures. Your replies aren't scriptural, or if they are, they are out of context. You should study the scriptures before you make such garbage replies. Pet rock. Ask Jesus to forgive you for that kind of reply. Make an intelligent one.
      Mark 9:24 Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.

      “Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things,
      but more frequently than not struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God.” ― Martin Luther


      Muretus "Call no man worthless for whom Christ died!"

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Thekla View Post


        Jesus was the rock in the wilderness and when Moses struck it he was not allowed to enter Israel. Is this also a lie that you don't believe?

        Originally posted by Thekla View Post
        I do believe that at that time he could appear to people as a rock.
        Jesus, the pet rock of the Israelites. .
        Originally posted by Thekla View Post
        Don't waste time with this kind of reply. I've quoted the Bible. Jesus is called the rock many times.
        You have already explained
        that Jesus was a literal rock during the old covenant.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Conqueror View Post
          “Therefore if they say to you ....
          ‘Look, the Christ is in the inner rooms!’
          - tabernacles
          do not believe it.
          (Mat 24:26).


          Jesus promised after the last supper (John 13:31),
          that He would no longer use figurative language
          after the resurrection (John 16:25).





          For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup,
          you proclaim the Lord's death till He comes.
          (1 Co 11:26).

          'until He comes' cannot mean that He is present as the god-wafer.


          .


          Are you saying that Jesus always used figurative speech before this statement?
          2 Timothy 3
          16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Conqueror View Post

            “Therefore if they say to you ....
            ‘Look, the Christ is in the inner rooms!’
            - tabernacles
            do not believe it.
            (Mat 24:26).

            For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup,
            you proclaim the Lord's death till He comes.
            (1 Co 11:26).

            'until He comes' cannot mean that He is present as the god-waver.



            Originally posted by pvb View Post

            Are you saying that Jesus always used figurative speech before this statement?
            It isn't my opinion, but the binding apostolic word of God.

            Jesus promised after the last supper (John 13:31),
            that He would no longer use figurative language
            after the resurrection (John 16:25).


            But you are not willing to come to Me
            that you may have life
            (John 5:39-40).

            Been tricked by Frankie's literal waver-god.

            Few find the way.




            .

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Conqueror View Post






              It isn't my opinion, but the binding apostolic word of God.

              Jesus promised after the last supper (John 13:31),
              that He would no longer use figurative language
              after the resurrection (John 16:25).


              But you are not willing to come to Me
              that you may have life
              (John 5:39-40).

              Been tricked by Frankie's literal waver-god.

              Few find the way.




              .
              Did you answer my question?

              So you are saying Jesus only used figurative speech previously?
              2 Timothy 3
              16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Conqueror View Post

                It isn't my opinion, but the binding apostolic word of God.

                Jesus promised after the last supper (John 13:31),
                that He would no longer use figurative language
                after the resurrection (John 16:25).


                But you are not willing to come to Me
                that you may have life
                (John 5:39-40).

                Been tricked by Frankie's literal waver-god.

                Few find the way.
                Originally posted by pvb View Post

                Did you answer my question?

                So you are saying Jesus only used figurative speech previously?


                “Therefore if they say to you ....
                ‘Look, the Christ is in the inner rooms!’
                - tabernacles
                do not believe it.
                (Mat 24:26).

                A literal interpretation produces a gazillion of false Christs
                in those tabernacles before the second coming.

                Your call to turn to Jesus to receive life (John 5:40)
                or keep on believing in the deception of men.


                .
                Last edited by Conqueror; 02-16-19, 12:06 AM.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Thekla View Post

                  The Lutheran Cult believes the Bible. You don't, and you don't see a problem with that.
                  Conqueror doesn't believe the Bible, roughly a third of the New Testament he openly rejects.

                  The connotation of a cult is a pseudo-Christian group created by a conman. Lutherans don't deserve to be called a cult. But, I know you weren't being serious. I believe Conqueror to be a member of a cult created by someone who rejects the authority of a significant portion of the Bible to prove to his followers that every group but his is in error, that only his followers have the truth.

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                  • #84

                    Originally posted by Thekla View Post


                    The Lutheran Cult believes the Bible. You don't, and you don't see a problem with that.
                    Originally posted by Ruk View Post

                    The connotation of a cult is a pseudo-Christian group created by a conman. Lutherans don't deserve to be called a cult.
                    I am wrongly accused here as usual.



                    Originally posted by Ruk View Post

                    I believe Conqueror to be a member of a cult created by someone who rejects the authority of a significant portion of the Bible to prove to his followers that every group but his is in error, that only his followers have the truth.
                    More unfounded slander from one,
                    who doesn't belong to the household of God.

                    I abide in Christ by not going
                    BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN (1 Cor 4:6)

                    the household of God, having been built
                    on the foundation of the apostles and prophets
                    (Eph 2:20).


                    .




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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Washedluminary View Post
                      BJ BEAR & Bonnie I believe you are using - Matthew 18:20 “For where two or three are gathered in my name, I am in their midst” out of context. This verse is in the context of Church discipline and also refers to Deuteronomy 19:15 "One witness shall not rise against a man concerning any iniquity or any sin that he commits; by the mouth of two or three witnesses the matter shall be established.". Just saying.
                      Welcome to the boards. The use of that passage was to demonstrate an exception to the universal statement being asserted.
                      Test all things and praise God from whom all blessings flow!

                      Peace,
                      BJ -Bear
                      VDMA (1 Peter 1:25)
                      WELS

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                      • #86

                        Originally posted by Washedluminary View Post

                        BJ BEAR & Bonnie I believe you are using - Matthew 18:20 “For where two or three are gathered in my name, I am in their midst” out of context. This verse is in the context of Church discipline and also refers to Deuteronomy 19:15 "One witness shall not rise against a man concerning any iniquity or any sin that he commits; by the mouth of two or three witnesses the matter shall be established.". Just saying.

                        Originally posted by BJ BEAR View Post

                        Welcome to the boards. The use of that passage was to demonstrate an exception to the universal statement being asserted.
                        Please provide the required witnesses for those exceptions to the word of God?

                        that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
                        (Mt 18:16, Deut. 17:6; 19:15; John 8:17; 2 Cor. 13:1).


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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Conqueror View Post





                          Please provide the required witnesses for those exceptions to the word of God?

                          that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
                          (Mt 18:16, Deut. 17:6; 19:15; John 8:17; 2 Cor. 13:1).


                          .
                          The references you're asking for regarding the exceptions to a misinterpretation of the word of God are throughout the repetitive threads which you have started on this topic, for example, the recent poster cited Matt 18.


                          Test all things and praise God from whom all blessings flow!

                          Peace,
                          BJ -Bear
                          VDMA (1 Peter 1:25)
                          WELS

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by BJ BEAR View Post

                            Welcome to the boards. The use of that passage was to demonstrate an exception to the universal statement being asserted.

                            Please provide the required witnesses for those exceptions to the word of God?

                            that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
                            (Mt 18:16, Deut. 17:6; 19:15; John 8:17; 2 Cor. 13:1).

                            Originally posted by BJ BEAR View Post

                            The references you're asking for regarding the exceptions to a misinterpretation of the word of God are throughout the repetitive threads which you have started on this topic, for example, the recent poster cited Matt 18.

                            First it was an 'exception to the word of God',
                            now it has become a 'misrepresentation'.

                            I don't even know what the subject is,
                            but managed to refute the nonsense presented.





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