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What makes a pentecostal a pentecostal?

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  • #61
    Originally posted by Morefish View Post
    OTHER THAN TONGUES, what do they think makes them 'different' or 'better' than Baptists, Lutherans, Presbyterians, Methodists, or other evangelical CHRISTIAN faiths?
    If they think they're "better" they're no different than any of that crowd who feel superior to everyone else in their divisions and their doctrines. If they are truly pentecostal, they are more accountable, and responsible for every to which they've been granted stewardship. The gifted are so for the sole purpose of edification...woe to those who use their own differences as a source of pride.
    Pete

    ~(8-[)}<><===> (flames of new anointing, béret, non-prescription glasses to help critics and their ilk feel more secure, mustache, beard...and tie.) I serve a God who walked this earth, for thirty years before He did a single miracle.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by tbeachhead View Post

      If they think they're "better" they're no different than any of that crowd who feel superior to everyone else in their divisions and their doctrines. If they are truly pentecostal, they are more accountable, and responsible for every to which they've been granted stewardship. The gifted are so for the sole purpose of edification...woe to those who use their own differences as a source of pride.
      Originally posted by tbeachhead View Post
      This is fun...

      I always thought if I were going to leap from a precipice, I'd rather at least be wearing a parasail...or something. But, I see that you have a depth of courage that's quite remarkable.

      Evidence of assumed superiority was provided.
      The apostolic word of God by the Twelve is the highest written authority, for it binds and loosens (Mat 16-19).
      Then the foundational prophets - NO OTHER WORKS QUALIFY

      Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Conqueror View Post




        Evidence of assumed superiority was provided.
        You did not respond to my post.

        Something fascinating in your tag:
        1900 years without inspiration...Is that a doctrine? Or a confession of sin?
        Pete

        ~(8-[)}<><===> (flames of new anointing, béret, non-prescription glasses to help critics and their ilk feel more secure, mustache, beard...and tie.) I serve a God who walked this earth, for thirty years before He did a single miracle.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by tbeachhead View Post
          You did not respond to my post.

          Something fascinating in your tag:
          1900 years without inspiration...Is that a doctrine? Or a confession of sin?
          No inspired prophet existed in the last 1900 years
          - an anti-type for the silent inter-testamental period.




          The apostolic word of God by the Twelve is the highest written authority, for it binds and loosens (Mat 16-19).
          Then the foundational prophets - NO OTHER WORKS QUALIFY

          Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Conqueror View Post

            No inspired prophet existed in the last 1900 years
            - an anti-type for the silent inter-testamental period.
            So it's a confession of sin. Thanks.

            You're adding to the scripture, of course...

            Prove it with scriptures...I'll show you the promise of prophecy...in Joel, and extended to us in Acts 2..

            And of course, you're buying the nonsense of a "silent" inter-testamental period as well...If it were so silent, why was it an expectation that Caiaphas would prophesy, "as he was the high priest that year?"

            How could a prophetess be allowed to prophesy in the temple proper for seventy years? Hmmm?

            Are you implying that, because it isn't written it isn't prophecy? Do you suggest we have on record every prophecy ever spoken? John says if he had written everything Jesus had done, it would fill a library to big to contain...

            ....Do you have anything on the prophet Iddo, mentioned in the OT? Or the prophetesses that are mentioned?

            Your presumption is not a good basis for theology, btw...casual observers might suggest that it makes you kind of a critic-lite.

            I might add...the ridiculous claim to 1900 years without inspiration, 1900 years of abject abandonment...1900 years where the pope alone led! That explains why to the eye of the seeker, it looks like every church is doing what seems right in its own uninspired eyes.
            Pete

            ~(8-[)}<><===> (flames of new anointing, béret, non-prescription glasses to help critics and their ilk feel more secure, mustache, beard...and tie.) I serve a God who walked this earth, for thirty years before He did a single miracle.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Conqueror View Post


              No inspired prophet existed in the last 1900 years
              - an anti-type for the silent inter-testamental period.

              Originally posted by tbeachhead View Post

              You're adding to the scripture, of course...

              Prove it with scriptures...I'll show you the promise of prophecy...in Joel, and extended to us in Acts 2..
              How sad to mix up a prophecy with its fulfilment
              and to see the fables of Luke the Greek as the word of God.



              Originally posted by tbeachhead View Post
              And of course, you're buying the nonsense of a "silent" inter-testamental period as well...If it were so silent, why was it an expectation that Caiaphas would prophesy, "as he was the high priest that year?"
              People's expectation didn't make Caiaphas a prophet.

              Originally posted by tbeachhead View Post

              How could a prophetess be allowed to prophesy in the temple proper for seventy years? Hmmm?
              Luke the Greek produced another prophet?

              Only the Baptist and Jesus were prophets
              and the TWO anti-types are found in Revelation 11.



              Originally posted by tbeachhead View Post
              Are you implying that, because it isn't written it isn't prophecy? Do you suggest we have on record every prophecy ever spoken? John says if he had written everything Jesus had done, it would fill a library to big to contain...
              What Jesus did isn't relevant to the issue
              for the issue is false prophets.


              Originally posted by tbeachhead View Post
              ....Do you have anything on the prophet Iddo, mentioned in the OT?
              You don't!

              Berechiah, the son of Iddo the prophet (Zec 1:1).
              That is a reference to Iddo.
              Now prove that Iddo wasn't know as a false prophet?



              Originally posted by tbeachhead View Post

              Your presumption is not a good basis for theology, btw...casual observers might suggest that it makes you kind of a critic-lite.
              Personal abuse is always welcomed,
              for that reveals the character of the abuser.


              Originally posted by tbeachhead View Post
              I might add...the ridiculous claim to 1900 years without inspiration, 1900 years of abject abandonment...1900 years where the pope alone led! That explains why to the eye of the seeker, it looks like every church is doing what seems right in its own uninspired eyes.
              List the prophets,
              whom God chose in the time since the apostles,
              and their prophecies.




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              Last edited by Conqueror; 12-20-18, 04:32 PM.
              The apostolic word of God by the Twelve is the highest written authority, for it binds and loosens (Mat 16-19).
              Then the foundational prophets - NO OTHER WORKS QUALIFY

              Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

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              • #67
                Originally posted by nothead View Post

                I was OnePent for 16 years plus.

                I follow YHWH Elohim as God. And Jesus as His Beloved Son.

                I suspect YOU follow the wrong gods. Jesus is not God and the Holy Spirit is not God en whole.
                So...you stopped speaking English and chose bad transliteration as your God? Nice to meet you. You do realize, don't you that your debate is with God Who inspired Isaiah to prophesy Jesus' name: Wonderful, Counselor, Prince of Peace...Mighty God...

                God's kind of unequivocal that way. Good luck with your argument.
                Pete

                ~(8-[)}<><===> (flames of new anointing, béret, non-prescription glasses to help critics and their ilk feel more secure, mustache, beard...and tie.) I serve a God who walked this earth, for thirty years before He did a single miracle.

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                • #68

                  Originally posted by nothead View Post


                  I was OnePent for 16 years plus.

                  I follow YHWH Elohim as God. And Jesus as His Beloved Son.

                  I suspect YOU follow the wrong gods. Jesus is not God and the Holy Spirit is not God en whole.
                  Originally posted by tbeachhead View Post

                  So...you stopped speaking English and chose bad transliteration as your God? Nice to meet you. You do realize, don't you that your debate is with God Who inspired Isaiah to prophesy Jesus' name: Wonderful, Counselor, Prince of Peace...Mighty God...

                  God's kind of unequivocal that way. Good luck with your argument.
                  Deal with that deception and that isn't done
                  by leaving
                  'Everlasting Father' out of Isaiah's quote
                  for dishonesty has no place in apologetics.


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                  The apostolic word of God by the Twelve is the highest written authority, for it binds and loosens (Mat 16-19).
                  Then the foundational prophets - NO OTHER WORKS QUALIFY

                  Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

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