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Why don't Pentecostal churches have Dispensationalism in their statements of faith?

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  • #16
    Originally posted by tbeachhead View Post

    With the proliferation of anti-charismatic literature from radio and televangelists like John MacArthur, the concept of cessationism took a grip on the movement as a whole, and brought fear to pastors who, when Jim Bakker etal fell, and Toronto and Pensecola, etc emerged, decided it was time to limit "in the spirit time" to approved moments that were staged and programmed, whereby the spontaneity was ordered and structured by the new microphone protocol of the mid-eighties: the pastor would decide if a word was "for the congregation" or for the ecstatic prophet alone, and would withhold permission all to speak without prior approval.

    When I came back from overseas in 1987, after working in Europe, N. Africa and Israel, and joined self-described Pentecostal fellowships, I'd get words and understanding similar to the days before I went out. After speaking, there was a lull and a dull thud in the congregation...then the pastor would move on as if nothing had happened. There were no instructions in the new protocol...only an unspoken understanding. I asked an elder at the Word of Faith church I attended for eight years. There it was even more Draconian than elsewhere. You were not expected to approach the pastor unless he had a word of knowledge that you had a word...which he never did. The atmosphere became senses deadening, and life went on as if under the pall of a prescribed liturgy.

    I never knew the Holy Spirit to be so willingly limited, and I watched Him withdraw...In thirty years, I've not seen a service that came close to resembling the surprising freedoms described in 1 Cor 14, as almost every service of the seventies and early eighties did.
    Same in our church (Crossroads AoG in Duncanville, TX) Before you can share any gift in the congregation, the pastors have to have "approved you" first. And an integral part of the 7-11 rock concert worship is time devoted to what they think is "Singing in the Spirit" which bears no resemblance to the REAL THING which I haven't experienced since '75.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

      Same in our church (Crossroads AoG in Duncanville, TX) Before you can share any gift in the congregation, the pastors have to have "approved you" first. And an integral part of the 7-11 rock concert worship is time devoted to what they think is "Singing in the Spirit" which bears no resemblance to the REAL THING which I haven't experienced since '75.
      I've talked with pastors who do this...It seems to be now how they've been trained. We threw courage to the wind, and have the control MacArthur bewailed as sorely lacking instead...Control by whom is the question that is no longer asked. My current pastor tells me to "post it on line..." where everyone can post any "encouraging" meme that amounts to spam on the page. It's not the same as telling the person unto whom the word is intended the answers to their longing.
      Pete

      ~(8-[)}<><===> (flames of new anointing, béret, non-prescription glasses to help critics and their ilk feel more secure, mustache, beard...and tie.) I serve a God who walked this earth, for thirty years before He did a single miracle.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Conqueror View Post
        Very few agree with the
        CLEAR BINDING APOSTOLIC INSTRUCTIONS:
        that you may learn in us
        not to go BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN
        (1 Cor 4:6)

        by the foundational apostles and prophets (Eph 2:20).


        Obedience to the word of God must be a problem
        for the one who has appointed himself over me.
        Tell the Lord Jesus openly that one doesn't care.

        Originally posted by Ruk View Post

        Which religious organization shares your view of the canon?
        The Lord Jesus is the author of my theology
        for it doesn't differ from the apostle Paul, whom He inspired.

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