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    How can Roman Catholics learn to accept Christians whose faith is Christ-centered, and Biblically-based, but are different from Roman Catholics?
    RC's do know God, but the Bible indicates that it is a knowledge in condemnation, a knowledge enabling them to know things about themselves and the world around them, even though they suppress the truth of God which makes such knowledge possible.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Raynebeau View Post
    How can Roman Catholics learn to accept Christians whose faith is Christ-centered, and Biblically-based, but are different from Roman Catholics?
    1271 Baptism constitutes the foundation of communion among all Christians, including those who are not yet in full communion with the Catholic Church: "For men who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in some, though imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church. Justified by faith in Baptism, [they] are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers by the children of the Catholic Church."81"Baptism therefore constitutes the sacramental bond of unity existing among all who through it are reborn."82

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    • #3
      Originally posted by ramcam2 View Post

      1271 Baptism constitutes the foundation of communion among all Christians, including those who are not yet in full communion with the Catholic Church: "For men who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in some, though imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church. Justified by faith in Baptism, [they] are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers by the children of the Catholic Church."81"Baptism therefore constitutes the sacramental bond of unity existing among all who through it are reborn."82
      Read the highlighted sentence of your quote above. What it really means is that the rcc hopes Christians will eventually join their religion.

      That's not acceptance.
      Learn to expect the impossible, expect the unusual, and expect the miraculous, because that is where God works.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ansel07 View Post

        Read the highlighted sentence of your quote above. What it really means is that the rcc hopes Christians will eventually join their religion.

        That's not acceptance.
        Of course it is, yet Catholics are told here daily that they are not Christians.

        Who is truly unaccepting?
        Save Your people, O Lord, and bless Your inheritance. Grant victory to your Church over evil, and protect Your people by Your Cross.
        [Troparion of the Exaltation of the Precious, Holy and Life-Creating Cross (Byzantine-Ruthenian usage)]

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Curious Joe View Post

          Of course it is, yet Catholics are told here daily that they are not Christians.

          Who is truly unaccepting?
          Does God accept two sinless mediators and advocates?
          1Peter 1:18,19 Redeemed ... with the precious blood of Christ

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Curious Joe View Post

            Of course it is, yet Catholics are told here daily that they are not Christians.

            Who is truly unaccepting?
            A Christian is someone who believes in the Lord Jesus Christ and his work on the cross for their salvation. Plus NOTHING.

            Anyone who adds works, law keeping, church performances, etc etc, to salvation is really relying on themselves and their church.That's not what a Christ follower does.

            Catholicism is a religion like Mormonism, Hinduism, Islam, etc. They are a system of works to be performed by its members. Nothing about Jesus' blood sacrifice there.
            Learn to expect the impossible, expect the unusual, and expect the miraculous, because that is where God works.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Ansel07 View Post

              A Christian is someone who believes in the Lord Jesus Christ and his work on the cross for their salvation. Plus NOTHING.
              So, NOTHING else the Lord said, did or commanded matters to a "Christian"?

              Anyone who adds works, law keeping, church performances, etc etc, to salvation is really relying on themselves and their church.That's not what a Christ follower does.
              Yet the "born again Christian" marks with great pride the moment THEY accepted the Lord.

              Catholicism is a religion like Mormonism, Hinduism, Islam, etc. They are a system of works to be performed by its members. Nothing about Jesus' blood sacrifice there.
              Catholicism is entirely about Jesus' blood sacrifice, which is recalled daily.
              Save Your people, O Lord, and bless Your inheritance. Grant victory to your Church over evil, and protect Your people by Your Cross.
              [Troparion of the Exaltation of the Precious, Holy and Life-Creating Cross (Byzantine-Ruthenian usage)]

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Ansel07 View Post

                A Christian is someone who believes in the Lord Jesus Christ and his work on the cross for their salvation. Plus NOTHING.

                Anyone who adds works, law keeping, church performances, etc etc, to salvation is really relying on themselves and their church.That's not what a Christ follower does.

                Catholicism is a religion like Mormonism, Hinduism, Islam, etc. They are a system of works to be performed by its members. Nothing about Jesus' blood sacrifice there.
                Hi Ansel,

                Your definition of Christian, which you won't find in any dictionary, is very subjective.

                The Catholic Church defintion, by using baptism to define Christian, is very objective.

                Let us pray for one another and love one another.

                -Ray-

                The Good News is that Jesus Christ died and rose for our sins so that we might be saved.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by PeanutGallery View Post
                  Does God accept two sinless mediators and advocates?
                  Aren't you mediating yourself by asking?
                  Save Your people, O Lord, and bless Your inheritance. Grant victory to your Church over evil, and protect Your people by Your Cross.
                  [Troparion of the Exaltation of the Precious, Holy and Life-Creating Cross (Byzantine-Ruthenian usage)]

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Raynebeau View Post
                    How can Roman Catholics learn to accept Christians whose faith is Christ-centered, and Biblically-based, but are different from Roman Catholics?
                    First, we do accept all Christians as brothers and sisters in Christ. What I do not understand as a Catholic is why other Christians refuse to give the same respect to Catholics. Yes we disagree on many areas of teaching and doctrine, but other Protestant Christians also disagree with each other about many areas of teaching and doctrine. That is why there are so many sects. That is why new sects continue to be spawned. Lutherans baptize infants, Baptists don't. Presbyterians believe in Double Predestination, many other Protestants don't. Fundamentalists define Scriptura Sola one way, Reformed Christians define it another. Yet Protestants get along and respect each other. They refuse to give the same respect to Catholics, even though Catholics are willing to give respect to them. If you notice, the reason there are Catholic apologetic sites is to answer attacks against the Catholic Catholic Faith. Catholics do not go around trying to evangelize Protestants out of their churches. Protestants do it to Catholics. The way I see it--if you are happy being Baptist, be Baptist. Leave Catholics alone who are happy being Catholic. If you gave up the Catholic Faith for some Protestant sects, fine. If you are happy in that sect, fine. Leave Catholics alone.

                    Secondly, the Catholic Faith is Christ-centered and Biblically based. What Catholics on this site do not cite Scripture that backs up the teaching? Protestants might disagree with the interpretations--but Catholics are citing Scripture. The issue has never been whether Catholics base their teaching on the Bible--but on whose interpretation is correct.

                    The question I ask Protestants--and they seem either unwilling or unable to answer is this: why is Matt Slick's biblical interpretation or any other Protestant's interpretation any better then that of a pope, bishop, priest, etc? Why should I disregard how the Catholic Church understands a passage for that of how Protestants understand it when Protestants can't even agree among themselves as to what is and is not biblical?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ramcam2 View Post

                      1271 Baptism constitutes the foundation of communion among all Christians, including those who are not yet in full communion with the Catholic Church: "For men who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in some, though imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church. Justified by faith in Baptism, [they] are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers by the children of the Catholic Church."81"Baptism therefore constitutes the sacramental bond of unity existing among all who through it are reborn."82
                      Ignoring what the Roman Catholic Church teaches, and looking to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ for His teaching and His example, were all of Christ's disciples baptized Roman Catholics?
                      RC's do know God, but the Bible indicates that it is a knowledge in condemnation, a knowledge enabling them to know things about themselves and the world around them, even though they suppress the truth of God which makes such knowledge possible.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Curious Joe View Post

                        Aren't you mediating yourself by asking?
                        It's a simple enough question:

                        Does God accept two sinless mediators and advocates?


                        1Peter 1:18,19 Redeemed ... with the precious blood of Christ

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Romishpopishpapist View Post
                          The question I ask Protestants--and they seem either unwilling or unable to answer is this: why is Matt Slick's biblical interpretation or any other Protestant's interpretation any better then that of a pope, bishop, priest, etc? Why should I disregard how the Catholic Church understands a passage for that of how Protestants understand it when Protestants can't even agree among themselves as to what is and is not biblical?
                          Its better because it lines up with Gods Word Catholicism doesn,t. Its that simple.

                          Without Love we are nothing more than noise makers.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by spokenword View Post
                            Its better because it lines up with Gods Word Catholicism doesn,t. Its that simple.
                            No, it isn't that simple because all you did is beg the question.

                            How does any one Protestant interpretation of the Bible line up any better with God's Word than the Catholic--especially when Protestants cannot even agree among themselves about what does and does not line up better with God's Word?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by PeanutGallery View Post
                              It's a simple enough question:

                              Does God accept two sinless mediators and advocates?

                              Did Jesus personally teach you everything you know about Him?
                              Save Your people, O Lord, and bless Your inheritance. Grant victory to your Church over evil, and protect Your people by Your Cross.
                              [Troparion of the Exaltation of the Precious, Holy and Life-Creating Cross (Byzantine-Ruthenian usage)]

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