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  • Originally posted by Mark Rome View Post

    Absolutely. I don't do work for people that should be able to do it themselves.
    well, that should put the end to you asking questions here.

    "I was changed, redeemed, forgiven before the blood was dry.

    The debt I owed was canceled in the twinkling of an eye."

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    • Originally posted by Mark Rome View Post

      This question makes no sense, "What does it to faith for salvation, Mark?" Please rephrase it to make it comprehensible.

      BTW, you said v. 15 said "faith alone". I've already said it doesn't say that. Please revise your comment accurately reflect Sacred Scripture. Thanks.
      what else is given in that verse besides the need of faith? plz post it if you can. is that vs in the catholic bible?


      "I was changed, redeemed, forgiven before the blood was dry.

      The debt I owed was canceled in the twinkling of an eye."

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      • Originally posted by Raynebeau View Post

        It's very obvious that you, as a Roman Catholic, know far more about "white flags" than you do about Jesus Christ or even the OP - it appears to be the only thing you post about in here. Evangelicals are only interested in knowing if you have "graciously accepted" Christ Jesus as your Lord and Savior - no one is interested in the slightest about how many flags you have accepted - it's sheer and utter foolishness.

        The poster could not (and didn't even attempt to) provide a canon in all of church history that did not include the book of Wisdom. Thus, when one refuses to offer an rebuttal and or formulate an objection, they have de facto conceded the argument, i.e. raised their white flag.


        You did the same thing here when you raised your white flag, which I also gracious accepted. ----> https://forums.carm.org/vb5/forum/ch...04#post5246304




        "Truth exists. The Incarnation happened."

        "First, I give thanks to my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is heralded throughout the world." - St. Paul to the first Roman Catholics

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        • Originally posted by rldlolbeding View Post

          It is not mentioned in God's word or spoken of by Jesus or any of his apostles. What is the problem with that? Does this rule apply to all Christian beliefs?

          Scripture alone is not mentioned in scripture or spoken of by Jesus or any of his apostles.
          Did you ever realize rldl, that the Immaculate Conception refers to Mary's conception, NOT to Christ's conception or to the virgin birth?
          RC's do know God, but the Bible indicates that it is a knowledge in condemnation, a knowledge enabling them to know things about themselves and the world around them, even though they suppress the truth of God which makes such knowledge possible.

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          • Originally posted by Walpole View Post


            The poster could not (and didn't even attempt to) provide a canon in all of church history that did not include the book of Wisdom. Thus, when one refuses to offer an rebuttal and or formulate an objection, they have de facto conceded the argument, i.e. raised their white flag.


            You did the same thing here when you raised your white flag, which I also gracious accepted. ----> https://forums.carm.org/vb5/forum/ch...04#post5246304



            Having diagnosed your 'own' thoughts and condition, perhaps you can see the need for personal spiritual regeneration, forsaking your thoughts of unrighteousness, and be renewed in knowledge after the image of your Creator. Instead of consuming yourself with the collection of "flags," turn unto the Lord.
            RC's do know God, but the Bible indicates that it is a knowledge in condemnation, a knowledge enabling them to know things about themselves and the world around them, even though they suppress the truth of God which makes such knowledge possible.

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            • Originally posted by Raynebeau View Post

              Having diagnosed your 'own' thoughts and condition, perhaps you can see the need for personal spiritual regeneration, forsaking your thoughts of unrighteousness, and be renewed in knowledge after the image of your Creator. Instead of consuming yourself with the collection of "flags," turn unto the Lord.

              I'll take this armchair psychoanalysis as your de facto concession and thus I graciously accept yet another of your white flags.




              "Truth exists. The Incarnation happened."

              "First, I give thanks to my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is heralded throughout the world." - St. Paul to the first Roman Catholics

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              • Originally posted by Nondenom40 View Post

                Hmm, again i see scripture where this applies to Jesus;


                As usual there is nothing like this supporting the rc view concerning mary. There never is.
                You are so right Nondenom - there never is and there never was any writings in Holy Scripture supporting the RCC's trumped up doctrine of the Immaculate Conception. The point of the RCC doctrine on the immaculate conception is not expressly declared anywhere in the Bible, nor was it ever taught to the Apostles and of course it was never preached by the Apostles, in fact, for many centuries it wasn't even mentioned by the early Church of Jesus Christ. It was an idea that Roman Catholicism created for it's own 'Church' and it began to slowly but steadily promote the false idea, culminating in the false heretical doctrine of the Immaculate Conception created and set forth by the Roman Catholic Church.
                RC's do know God, but the Bible indicates that it is a knowledge in condemnation, a knowledge enabling them to know things about themselves and the world around them, even though they suppress the truth of God which makes such knowledge possible.

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                • Originally posted by Raynebeau View Post

                  You are so right Nondenom - there never is and there never was any writings in Holy Scripture supporting the RCC's trumped up doctrine of the Immaculate Conception.
                  What would the Bible have to say for you to believe?

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                  • Originally posted by Mark Rome View Post

                    What would the Bible have to say for you to believe?
                    The Bible is the written word of God to be read, and believed. The Roman Catholic doctrine of the Immaculate Conception of Mary is completely without divine sanction, having no higher “authority” than that of the “Roman Catholic Church” with its myriad of popes elected by men and it's councils made up of dubious worldly men.
                    RC's do know God, but the Bible indicates that it is a knowledge in condemnation, a knowledge enabling them to know things about themselves and the world around them, even though they suppress the truth of God which makes such knowledge possible.

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                    • Originally posted by Raynebeau View Post

                      The Bible is the written word of God to be read, and believed. The Roman Catholic doctrine of the Immaculate Conception of Mary is completely without divine sanction, having no higher “authority” than that of the “Roman Catholic Church” with its myriad of popes elected by men and it's councils made up of dubious worldly men.
                      What would the Bible have to say for you to believe?

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                      • Originally posted by Mark Rome View Post

                        What would the Bible have to say for you to believe?
                        The Bible is the written word of God to be read, and believed. The Roman Catholic doctrine of the Immaculate Conception of Mary is completely without divine sanction, having no higher “authority” than that of the “Roman Catholic Church” with its myriad of popes elected by men and it's councils made up of dubious worldly men.

                        RC's do know God, but the Bible indicates that it is a knowledge in condemnation, a knowledge enabling them to know things about themselves and the world around them, even though they suppress the truth of God which makes such knowledge possible.

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                        • Originally posted by Walpole View Post
                          The poster could not (and didn't even attempt to) provide a canon in all of church history that did not include the book of Wisdom. Thus, when one refuses to offer an rebuttal and or formulate an objection, they have de facto conceded the argument, i.e. raised their white flag.


                          You did the same thing here when you raised your white flag, which I also gracious accepted. ----> https://forums.carm.org/vb5/forum/ch...04#post5246304
                          that means most catholics here concede on a regular basis.




                          "I was changed, redeemed, forgiven before the blood was dry.

                          The debt I owed was canceled in the twinkling of an eye."

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                          • Originally posted by Walpole View Post

                            I'll take this armchair psychoanalysis as your de facto concession and thus I graciously accept yet another of your white flags.
                            catholics sure like to be busy with things of the world... you plan to take those things with you when you die?



                            "I was changed, redeemed, forgiven before the blood was dry.

                            The debt I owed was canceled in the twinkling of an eye."

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                            • Originally posted by Mark Rome View Post

                              What would the Bible have to say for you to believe?
                              How bout 1 verse? Jesus is said to be sinless 6 times. How come mary doesn't even have one?
                              Eph 5:11 And do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them NASB

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                              • Originally posted by mica View Post
                                catholics sure like to be busy with things of the world... you plan to take those things with you when you die?


                                . . . . . it will be easy for walp to carry his imaginary white flags with him that he places so much worldly value on
                                RC's do know God, but the Bible indicates that it is a knowledge in condemnation, a knowledge enabling them to know things about themselves and the world around them, even though they suppress the truth of God which makes such knowledge possible.

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