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    Even though there is absolutely no biblical precedent for this at all, the Church of Roman Catholicism honor Mary as the Mother of God. Their argument goes something like this - since Jesus is God, and Mary is the mother of Jesus, then BLAMO! Mary has to be the Mother of God.! Of course Roman Catholics do not want to hear that God's word never calls Mary the Mother of God - only the Roman Catholic Church does that. And the reason why God's word does not call Mary the Mother of God is simple - God has NO mother!
    RC's do know God, but the Bible indicates that it is a knowledge in condemnation, a knowledge enabling them to know things about themselves and the world around them, even though they suppress the truth of God which makes such knowledge possible.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Raynebeau View Post
    Even though there is absolutely no biblical precedent for this at all, the Church of Roman Catholicism honor Mary as the Mother of God. Their argument goes something like this - since Jesus is God, and Mary is the mother of Jesus, then BLAMO! Mary has to be the Mother of God.! Of course Roman Catholics do not want to hear that God's word never calls Mary the Mother of God - only the Roman Catholic Church does that. And the reason why God's word does not call Mary the Mother of God is simple - God has NO mother!
    As far as I know, the only theistic culture to reject the significance of motherhood is the the modern Protestant/Evangelical culture. It is very hostile to any recognition of a divine maternal aspect.
    The crones love their cliques!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mercedes View Post

      As far as I know, the only theistic culture to reject the significance of motherhood is the the modern Protestant/Evangelical culture. It is very hostile to any recognition of a divine maternal aspect.
      John 18:36 Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world.

      No mother of God in His kingdom !!!!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Raynebeau View Post
        Even though there is absolutely no biblical precedent for this at all, the Church of Roman Catholicism honor Mary as the Mother of God. Their argument goes something like this - since Jesus is God, and Mary is the mother of Jesus, then BLAMO! Mary has to be the Mother of God.! Of course Roman Catholics do not want to hear that God's word never calls Mary the Mother of God - only the Roman Catholic Church does that. And the reason why God's word does not call Mary the Mother of God is simple - God has NO mother!
        Luke 11


        True Blessedness


        27 As he said these things, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to him, “Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts at which you nursed!” 28 But he said, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mercedes View Post

          As far as I know, the only theistic culture to reject the significance of motherhood is the the modern Protestant/Evangelical culture. It is very hostile to any recognition of a divine maternal aspect.
          Sorry you feel that way Mercedes.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mercedes View Post

            As far as I know, the only theistic culture to reject the significance of motherhood is the the modern Protestant/Evangelical culture. It is very hostile to any recognition of a divine maternal aspect.
            Can you cite some of these modern protestant/evangelicals that reject 'motherhood'?? No one said a thing about motherhood in general but specifically mary being the mother of god. You do see a difference right? And can we expect you to keep the standard you complain about us?
            Originally posted by Mercedes View Post

            CARM nonCC's consistently accuse the Catechism of the Catholic Church of stating that unbaptised infants who die go to hell. I have repeatedly asked for the citations for this accusation and requested that in the interests of scholarly integrity that Admin impel them to post the proof as apologetics warrants.

            Can anyone enlighten me about this strange void in integrity that although the falsehood has been corrected numerous times, it is continued to be allowed to be alleged without proof over and over again?
            So shoot. Link us to some people that reject motherhood.
            Eph 5:11 And do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them NASB

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Raynebeau View Post
              Even though there is absolutely no biblical precedent for this at all, the Church of Roman Catholicism honor Mary as the Mother of God. Their argument goes something like this - since Jesus is God, and Mary is the mother of Jesus, then BLAMO! Mary has to be the Mother of God.! Of course Roman Catholics do not want to hear that God's word never calls Mary the Mother of God - only the Roman Catholic Church does that. And the reason why God's word does not call Mary the Mother of God is simple - God has NO mother!
              The Biblical precedent for Catholics honoring Mary is Christ himself. The fourth commandment tells us that we are to honor our father and our mother. Jesus followed this commandment perfectly. Therefore Jesus honored Mary and Joseph perfectly. When we honor Mary and Joseph we are following after the example of Jesus.

              Mary's motherhood of all Christians is based on the fact that Mary is the mother of Christ. Jesus is the head of the Church, the Church is the body of Christ. If we agree that Mary gave birth to our head, Jesus, then by extension she also gives birth to all Christians--in a spiritual sense. If we agree that Mary is the mother of our head who is Jesus, and if we also agree that we are the body of Christ, then Mary who is the mother of Christ is also by extension the mother of all Christians. Thus, we honor our mother as Jesus did.

              When you say that "God has no mother" you are correct--if by "God has no mother" you mean Mary is not the mother of the Trinity, nor is Mary the source and origin of the divinity of Jesus. But through the Incarnation, God indeed has a mother and her name is Mary. Mary gave birth to Jesus. Jesus is God. Therefore Mary is the mother of God because the person she gave birth to was divine.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Nondenom40 View Post

                Can you cite some of these modern protestant/evangelicals that reject 'motherhood'?? No one said a thing about motherhood in general but specifically mary being the mother of god. You do see a difference right? And can we expect you to keep the standard you complain about us?

                So shoot. Link us to some people that reject motherhood.

                One need look no further than the countless threads and posts by Protestants here advocating artificial contraception. Here is a sampling...


                ---> https://forums.carm.org/vb5/index.ph...ation-from-sex

                ---> https://forums.carm.org/vb5/index.ph...ation-from-sex

                ---> https://forums.carm.org/vb5/index.ph...l-and-multiply

                ---> https://forums.carm.org/vb5/forum/ch...-contraception

                ---> https://forums.carm.org/vb5/forum/ch...sband-and-wife

                ---> https://forums.carm.org/vb5/forum/ch...h-and-abortion



                Using / advocating artificial contraception = Rejecting motherhood




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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Walpole View Post


                  One need look no further than the countless threads and posts by Protestants here advocating artificial contraception. Here is a sampling...


                  ---> https://forums.carm.org/vb5/index.ph...ation-from-sex

                  ---> https://forums.carm.org/vb5/index.ph...ation-from-sex

                  ---> https://forums.carm.org/vb5/index.ph...l-and-multiply

                  ---> https://forums.carm.org/vb5/forum/ch...-contraception

                  ---> https://forums.carm.org/vb5/forum/ch...sband-and-wife

                  ---> https://forums.carm.org/vb5/forum/ch...h-and-abortion



                  Using / advocating artificial contraception = Rejecting motherhood



                  Oh please. How many catholics use it? Show us where people are actually against motherhood, not pro choice. People don't use artificial conception to prevent motherhood....but to not have children.
                  Eph 5:11 And do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them NASB

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Nondenom40 View Post

                    Oh please. How many catholics use it? Show us where people are actually against motherhood, not pro choice. People don't use artificial conception to prevent motherhood....but to not have children.


                    Biology (and logic) 101 ---> A mother = A female parent










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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Walpole View Post



                      Biology (and logic) 101 ---> A mother = A female parent

                      I've never heard of a situation where a husband and wife sit down and say " we need you on bc because we hate mother's". Idiocy.
                      Eph 5:11 And do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them NASB

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Raynebeau View Post
                        God has NO mother!
                        Kindly advise Jesus that He is either (a) not truly God or (b) not truly human.
                        Though the godless poured poison in to your veins, your heart still beats with love for Christ,
                        O bishop Theodore, martyred father, who now raise your prayers before the Throne of God.

                        [Kontakion of Blessed Theodore (Byzantine-Ruthenian usage)]

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Curious Joe View Post

                          Kindly advise Jesus that He is either (a) not truly God or (b) not truly human.
                          was God born before the creation of the world?

                          "I was changed, redeemed, forgiven before the blood was dry.

                          The debt I owed was canceled in the twinkling of an eye."

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by mica View Post

                            was God born before the creation of the world?
                            define "born"
                            Though the godless poured poison in to your veins, your heart still beats with love for Christ,
                            O bishop Theodore, martyred father, who now raise your prayers before the Throne of God.

                            [Kontakion of Blessed Theodore (Byzantine-Ruthenian usage)]

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Nondenom40 View Post

                              I've never heard of a situation where a husband and wife sit down and say " we need you on bc because we hate mother's". Idiocy.

                              Non-sequitur. (The argument is not that anyone hates mothers.)


                              Rather, the argument is that contraception is against motherhood.


                              ---> "I don't want to be a mother. Therefore, let's contracept."


                              Ergo if you use / promote artificial contraception, you are against motherhood.




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