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what if the Catholic Church becomes antinomian and Mid-Acts Dispensationalist?

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  • what if the Catholic Church becomes antinomian and Mid-Acts Dispensationalist?

    Erudite Evangelical CARMists claim the Catholic Church teaches a "false gospel"

    What changes the Catholic Church needs to take then to preach the "true gospel"?

    One erudite CARMist claims the Gospel is antinomian and another erudite CARMist claims the Gospel follows Mid-Acts Dispensationalism.


    According to mid-Acts dispensationalism or the Grace Movement, the apostles Peter, James, John, and the rest were still operating under the Old Covenant in Acts 1—8. They were still dutifully keeping the Law and still meeting as a Jewish body in Jerusalem. Peter and the other apostles preached repentance to Israel, but there was no church until Paul. It was Paul, the “apostle to the Gentiles” (Romans 11:13), to whom the doctrine of the church—and the doctrine of grace—was revealed. It was only after Paul began to minister that the church actually began. Thus, the only parts of the New Testament that are applicable to believers today are the Pauline Epistles. The rest of the Bible was written for Israel.
    https://www.g-o-t-q-uestions.org/mid...tionalism.html

    antinomian | ˌan(t)ēˈnōmēən | adjective relating to the view that Christians are released by grace from the obligation of observing the moral law.
    Oxford Dictionary of English

    https://books.google.com/books?id=4X...aw.%22&f=false

    Will these changes lead the Catholic Church to preaching a "true Gospel"? or are these changes false gospel?
    Last edited by CatholicScripture; 06-11-18, 12:35 AM.

  • #2
    Originally posted by CatholicScripture View Post
    Erudite Evangelical CARMists claim the Catholic Church teaches a "false gospel"

    What changes the Catholic Church needs to take then to preach the "true gospel"?

    One erudite CARMist claims the Gospel is antinomian and another erudite CARMist claims the Gospel follows Mid-Acts Dispensationalism.


    Will these changes lead the Catholic Church to preaching a "true Gospel"? or are these changes false gospel?
    According to the rules about plagiarism, you MUST cite your sources
    You are directed to PM the sysop carmdiane@yahoo.com and include this URL https://forums.carm.org/vb5/forum/ch...st#post5321565 when you give the source of your quote

    PS
    The word "antinomian" is incorrectly defined

    This is from the sticky, and actually defines the position that the board owner has about the RCC. It is NOT a cult:



    A few examples of cults are Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Science, Christadelphians, Unity, Religious Science, The Way International, and the Moonies.

    Apostacy (falling away from the truth) is different than being a non-christian cult. Roman Catholicism, for example, is not a cult, but is apostate. It has fallen away from the true Christian faith by violating the teaching of salvation by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone which is something that all cults also do." author Matt Slickhttp://carm.org/dictionary-cult

    Posters on the RC forum should leave out the "cult" attacks on the RCC. Please feel free to discuss your disagreement with what is or is not a "cult" on the Gen. Theology forums.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by CatholicScripture View Post
      What changes the Catholic Church needs to take then to preach the "true gospel"?
      ELIMINATE the LIE that "Our Works" play any part in salvation, and BELIEVE the Bible when it cleasrly states that Salvation (Being Born again of the Holy Spirit) is by FAITH in the finished work of Christ on the cross.

      Oh - and drop the "Were the "one true Church" stupidity and find out what the "One True Church" (pillar and ground of the truth) REALLY is Biblically.


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      • #4
        Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

        ELIMINATE the LIE that "Our Works" play any part in salvation, and BELIEVE the Bible when it cleasrly states that Salvation (Being Born again of the Holy Spirit) is by FAITH in the finished work of Christ on the cross.

        Oh - and drop the "Were the "one true Church" stupidity and find out what the "One True Church" (pillar and ground of the truth) REALLY is Biblically.

        Ok so the Catholic Church becoming antinomian and Mid-Acts Dispensationalist is not enough?

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        • #5
          CLARIFICATION

          Originally posted by Mod8 View Post

          [COLOR=#800080][B]According to the rules about plagiarism, you MUST cite your sources
          You are directed to PM the sysop carmdiane@yahoo.com and include this URL https://forums.carm.org/vb5/forum/ch...st#post5321565 when you give the source of your quote

          PS
          The word "antinomian" is incorrectly defined
          What a poster quoted came from Merriam - Webster. ://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/antinomian
          Originally, it is a Greek compound word meaning "against" and "law" and has come to mean "rejecting the Law (of Moses)"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by CatholicScripture View Post
            Erudite Evangelical CARMists claim the Catholic Church teaches a "false gospel"

            What changes the Catholic Church needs to take then to preach the "true gospel"?

            One erudite CARMist claims the Gospel is antinomian and another erudite CARMist claims the Gospel follows Mid-Acts Dispensationalism.




            https://www.g-o-t-q-uestions.org/mid...tionalism.html



            Oxford Dictionary of English

            https://books.google.com/books?id=4X...aw.%22&f=false

            Will these changes lead the Catholic Church to preaching a "true Gospel"? or are these changes false gospel?
            First define what the Gospel is according to the Catholic church.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by CatholicScripture View Post

              Ok so the Catholic Church becoming antinomian and Mid-Acts Dispensationalist is not enough?
              Not even close.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by CatholicScripture View Post
                Erudite Evangelical CARMists claim the Catholic Church teaches a "false gospel"

                What changes the Catholic Church needs to take then to preach the "true gospel"?
                True gospel is only one sinless mediator and advocate.
                1Peter 1:18,19 Redeemed ... with the precious blood of Christ

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                • #9
                  If apostate is the claim the church left for teaching against faith alone lets see the date it left. Every time there was a heresy or apostasy history reported one group of folks telling the other they are in the wrong. When and who speak out against the catholic church?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by utilyan View Post
                    ... When and who speak out against the catholic church?
                    God's inspired written Holy Bible speaks out against the RCC; you know, as in, there is only one sinless mediator and advocate.
                    1Peter 1:18,19 Redeemed ... with the precious blood of Christ

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by PeanutGallery View Post
                      True gospel is only one sinless mediator and advocate.
                      Do you Angels_Sing agree with this definition of true Gospel?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by CatholicScripture View Post

                        Do you Angels_Sing agree with this definition of true Gospel?
                        The foundation of the gospel is faith in the Lord Christ, the only sinless mediator and advocate; those who believe otherwise can add a plethora of other definitions, but will remain in apostasy.
                        1Peter 1:18,19 Redeemed ... with the precious blood of Christ

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CatholicScripture View Post

                          Do you Angels_Sing agree with this definition of true Gospel?
                          I'm still waiting for the Catholic def of the Gospel.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by CatholicScripture View Post
                            Erudite Evangelical CARMists claim the Catholic Church teaches a "false gospel"

                            What changes the Catholic Church needs to take then to preach the "true gospel"?

                            One erudite CARMist claims the Gospel is antinomian and another erudite CARMist claims the Gospel follows Mid-Acts Dispensationalism.




                            https://www.g-o-t-q-uestions.org/mid...tionalism.html



                            Oxford Dictionary of English

                            https://books.google.com/books?id=4X...aw.%22&f=false

                            Will these changes lead the Catholic Church to preaching a "true Gospel"? or are these changes false gospel?
                            Considering how many different gospels we hear from Protestants, the majority of Protestants will always object to whatever gospel the Catholic Church teaches.
                            The son of Mary isn't half God or one-third God. He is fully God.

                            "No one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit. (1Cor 12:3)"

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Angels_Sing View Post

                              First define what the Gospel is according to the Catholic church.
                              The Kingdom came and Jesus Christ conquered death for all of mankind.

                              JoeT

                              Sigillum Militum Χρisti † / "Truth exists. The Incarnation happened."

                              Totus Tuus, "Totally yours . . . Keep me in this union".

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