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How is Frank qualified to pontificate on clean energy?

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  • How is Frank qualified to pontificate on clean energy?

    Why does the Supreme Pontiff think that his opinion on the issues of "clean energy" are any more worthwhile that anyone else's?

    Does the Magisterium hold shares in solar energy or wind companies? Do we even know what all of the RCC's financial interests are?

    I can see the pope talking about moral issues, or RC protocols, issues like exactly when mass attendance "counts", or if there are changes in the official status of beavers and nutria as "fish".
    But this is beyond his pay grade, no?

    http://w2.vatican.va/content/frances...i-energia.html

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    Originally posted by Southsider View Post
    Why does the Supreme Pontiff think that his opinion on the issues of "clean energy" are any more worthwhile that anyone else's?

    Does the Magisterium hold shares in solar energy or wind companies? Do we even know what all of the RCC's financial interests are?

    I can see the pope talking about moral issues, or RC protocols, issues like exactly when mass attendance "counts", or if there are changes in the official status of beavers and nutria as "fish".
    But this is beyond his pay grade, no?

    http://w2.vatican.va/content/frances...i-energia.html
    Doesn't it come down to whether there is a moral component to the issue? If so, then as Pope, he is qualified to comment on the morality of a particular use. If not, then his opinions while due respect don't necessarily bear any more weight than anyone else's opinion.

    So what do you think, Southsider? Is there any conceivable moral component to the question of clean energy?
    "Whenever I'm asked why Southern writers particularly have a penchant for writing about freaks, I say it is because we are still able to recognize one."
    ---Flannery O'Connor

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    • #3
      The Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople, primus inter pares of the Orthodox Communion, just recently hosted his own conference on ecological matters:

      https://www.patriarchate.org/events/greenattica
      No matter how just your words may be, you ruin everything when you speak with anger.” ~ St. John Chrysostom

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      • #4
        And the SBC has spoken on Global Warming http://www.sbc.net/resolutions/1171/on-global-warming

        But hey, let's just put our heads in the sand and act only the Pope speaks about the environment

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        • #5
          Originally posted by CatholicScripture View Post
          And the SBC has spoken on Global Warming http://www.sbc.net/resolutions/1171/on-global-warming

          But hey, let's just put our heads in the sand and act only the Pope speaks about the environment
          I'm from Pittsburgh, so I don't know that much about the Southern Baptist Convention.

          Are you intimating that the moderator of the SBC is considered an infallible being?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Rudder View Post

            Doesn't it come down to whether there is a moral component to the issue? If so, then as Pope, he is qualified to comment on the morality of a particular use. If not, then his opinions while due respect don't necessarily bear any more weight than anyone else's opinion.

            So what do you think, Southsider? Is there any conceivable moral component to the question of clean energy?
            Bump for Southsider.
            "Whenever I'm asked why Southern writers particularly have a penchant for writing about freaks, I say it is because we are still able to recognize one."
            ---Flannery O'Connor

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Southsider View Post
              Why does the Supreme Pontiff think that his opinion on the issues of "clean energy" are any more worthwhile that anyone else's?

              Does the Magisterium hold shares in solar energy or wind companies? Do we even know what all of the RCC's financial interests are?

              I can see the pope talking about moral issues, or RC protocols, issues like exactly when mass attendance "counts", or if there are changes in the official status of beavers and nutria as "fish".
              But this is beyond his pay grade, no?

              http://w2.vatican.va/content/frances...i-energia.html
              Gen 2:15, "The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it."

              I listen to God's representative on earth in these matters. He only gets paid when he dies, about a hundred dollars in gold coins, placed in his casket, so it isn't above his pay grade. It's funny how so many conservative evangelicals do not like Catholic social teaching, such as contraception, abortion, or the environment when they disagree.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rudder View Post

                Bump for Southsider.
                Not really.

                The entire Global Warming Scare is just to try and scare the people into accepting and even demanding world collectivist control over the economy.

                Nothing spiritual about it at all.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Southsider View Post

                  Not really.

                  The entire Global Warming Scare is just to try and scare the people into accepting and even demanding world collectivist control over the economy.

                  Nothing spiritual about it at all.
                  I wasn't talking about global warming. I asked whether there any conceivable moral component to the question of clean energy?
                  "Whenever I'm asked why Southern writers particularly have a penchant for writing about freaks, I say it is because we are still able to recognize one."
                  ---Flannery O'Connor

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rudder View Post
                    Doesn't it come down to whether there is a moral component to the issue? If so, then as Pope, he is qualified to comment on the morality of a particular use.
                    Red herring. There is a moral "component" to everything.

                    ...
                    "The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie, deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive and unrealistic."- John F. Kennedy

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Southsider View Post
                      How is Frank qualified to pontificate on clean energy?
                      He is a dedicated leftist and socialist, so therefore he knows exactly what the little people need to do: obediently obey him.

                      ...

                      "The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie, deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive and unrealistic."- John F. Kennedy

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mark Rome View Post
                        I listen to God's representative on earth in these matters.
                        Thank you for confessing you do not represent Christ.

                        It is helpful if more Roman Catholics would admit to this.

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                        "The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie, deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive and unrealistic."- John F. Kennedy

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Atemi View Post

                          Thank you for confessing you do not represent Christ.

                          It is helpful if more Roman Catholics would admit to this.

                          ...
                          Tell that to the Father's representative, Christ.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mark Rome View Post
                            Thank you for confessing you do not represent Christ.

                            It is helpful if more Roman Catholics would admit to this.


                            Tell that to the Father's representative, Christ.
                            I am sure Christ heard your confession. We will take you at your word.

                            ...

                            "The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie, deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive and unrealistic."- John F. Kennedy

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Southsider View Post

                              Not really.

                              The entire Global Warming Scare is just to try and scare the people into accepting and even demanding world collectivist control over the economy.

                              Nothing spiritual about it at all.
                              Pope Francis' mission is to teach Christian morality regarding greed and exploitation of the environment, because it directly interferes with the wellbeing of the worlds poor and marginal.

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