Announcement

Collapse

Message to all users:

https://carm.org/forum-rules

Super Member Subscription
https://carm.org/carm-super-members-banner-ad-signup

As most of you are aware, we had a crash to forums and were down for over two days a while back. We did have to do an upgrade to the vbulletin software to fix the forums and that has created changes, VB no longer provide the hybrid or threaded forums. There are some issues/changes to the forums we are not able to fix or change. Also note the link address change, please let friends and posters know of the changed link to the forums. For now this is the only link available, https://forums.carm.org/vb5/ but if clicking on forum on carm.org homepage it will now send you to this link. (edited to add https: now working.

Again, we are working through some of the posting and viewing issues to learn how to post with the changes, you will have to check and test the different features, icons that have changed. You may also want to go to profile settings,since many of the notifications, information in profile, also to update/edit your avatar by clicking on avatar space, pull down arrow next to login for user settings.

Edit to add "How to read forums, to make it easier."
Pull down arrow next to login name upper right select profile, or user settings when page opens to profile,select link in tab that says Account. Then select/choose options, go down to Conversation Detail Options, Select Display mode Posts, NOT Activity, that selection of Posts will make the pages of discussions go to last post on last page rather than out of order that happens if you choose activity threads. Then be sure to go to bottom and select SAVE Changes in your profile options. You can then follow discussions by going through the pages, to the last page having latest responses. Then click on the other links Privacy, Notifications, to select viewing options,the forums get easier if you open all the tabs or links in your profile, user settings and select options. To join Super Member, pull down arrow next to login name, select User Settings and then click on tab/link at top that says Subscriptions.

Thank you for your patience and God Bless.

Diane S
https://carm.org/forum-rules
See more
See less

Recommended Reformed Resources on Initial Justification

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Recommended Reformed Resources on Initial Justification

    Can anyone recommend any good resources that covers the Roman Catholic concept regarding "initial justification"?

    The concept looks to be an imposition on the text and not derived from the text, but I wanted to read other people's thoughts on the matter. Especially based on an exegetical nature.

    Thanks.

  • #2
    Originally posted by geoffrobinson View Post
    Can anyone recommend any good resources that covers the Roman Catholic concept regarding "initial justification"?

    The concept looks to be an imposition on the text and not derived from the text, but I wanted to read other people's thoughts on the matter. Especially based on an exegetical nature.

    Thanks.
    Dr. James White; The God Who Justifies.
    James Buchanan; The Doctrine of Justification......an oldie but a goodie. In the public domain, i.e. free download.
    John Owen; The Doctrine of Justification by Faith.
    Last edited by Nondenom40; 06-13-18, 10:28 AM.
    Eph 5:11 And do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them NASB

    Comment


    • #3
      Try Robert Sungenis' "Not by Faith Alone." Nondenom40's recommendations are excellent Reformed tomes but it should be noted that the original reformers didn't make distinctions in justification such as "initial" and "final." If you want something to read that's a little out of the box then give N.T. Wright's "Justification: God's Plan and Paul's Vision," and then read John Piper's response, "The Future of Justification."
      All verses cited or quoted or in the NAS unless otherwise noted.

      “if anyone competes as an athlete, he does not win the prize unless he competes according to the rules.” (2 Tim. 2:5)

      Comment


      • #4
        Justification: The Doctrine of Karl Barth and a Catholic Reflection
        by Hans Küng
        Save Your people, O Lord, and bless Your inheritance. Grant victory to your Church over evil, and protect Your people by Your Cross.
        [Troparion of the Exaltation of the Precious, Holy and Life-Creating Cross (Byzantine-Ruthenian usage)]

        Comment


        • #5
          Originally posted by geoffrobinson View Post
          Can anyone recommend any good resources that covers the Roman Catholic concept regarding "initial justification"?

          The concept looks to be an imposition on the text and not derived from the text, but I wanted to read other people's thoughts on the matter. Especially based on an exegetical nature.

          Thanks.
          This article and the comments are a good resource for understanding Catholic teaching on initial justification.

          http://www.calledtocommunion.com/201...cholas-batzig/

          Comment

          Working...
          X