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    Should Catholics adopt the teaching that eight year old children are saved for eternity because they profess faith in Jesus Christ, get water baptized, then live according to the flesh for the rest of their life? Who would know if they are truly saved at eight?

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    I thought OSAS proponents would shout "yes! Catholics should believe this!"

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mark Rome View Post
      Should Catholics adopt the teaching that eight year old children are saved for eternity because they profess faith in Jesus Christ, get water baptized, then live according to the flesh for the rest of their life? Who would know if they are truly saved at eight?
      My eight year old believes himself to be saved. He believes that Jesus is the Son of God who came to earth and died on the cross for not just his sins, but all of the sins of those who believe in Him. Would you tell my 8 year old he's not saved? What about the 8 year olds in your church? What do you tell them?

      The Catholic Church gives the Eucharist to 7 years old. Who would know if they truly believed in transubstantiation at 7?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Stepping Heavenward View Post

        My eight year old believes himself to be saved. He believes that Jesus is the Son of God who came to earth and died on the cross for not just his sins, but all of the sins of those who believe in Him. Would you tell my 8 year old he's not saved? What about the 8 year olds in your church? What do you tell them?

        The Catholic Church gives the Eucharist to 7 years old. Who would know if they truly believed in transubstantiation at 7?
        So, are you saying that an 8 year old can never lose their salvation even if they reject God for the rest of their life?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mark Rome View Post
          I thought OSAS proponents would shout "yes! Catholics should believe this!"
          Why would they considering EDITED what Christians believe about what the Bible teaches?
          Last edited by Mod10; 06-14-18, 07:16 AM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mark Rome View Post
            Should Catholics adopt the teaching that eight year old children are saved for eternity because they profess faith in Jesus Christ, get water baptized, then live according to the flesh for the rest of their life? Who would know if they are truly saved at eight?
            Please cite the source for such a "teaching" as you described.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Angels_Sing View Post

              Why would they considering you don't have the foggiest idea what Christians believe about what the Bible teaches?
              Please give me a foggy idea of what Christians believe regarding this. Thx.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Stepping Heavenward View Post

                My eight year old believes himself to be saved. He believes that Jesus is the Son of God who came to earth and died on the cross for not just his sins, but all of the sins of those who believe in Him. Would you tell my 8 year old he's not saved? What about the 8 year olds in your church? What do you tell them?

                The Catholic Church gives the Eucharist to 7 years old. Who would know if they truly believed in transubstantiation at 7?
                Children brought up in the Catholic faith well catechised, understand life as a 'journey' of salvation. We are a 'pilgrim' church on the final phase of a long journey of home. Our faith is inextricably interwoven with our obedience and love which disposes us to the grace of hope. Faith is like a seed in Catholic teaching and is nourished by Church life in the family, parish and universal communion.
                The crones love their cliques!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mark Rome View Post

                  Please give me a foggy idea of what Christians believe regarding this. Thx.
                  Is water baptizing babies any better?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Angels_Sing View Post

                    Is water baptizing babies any better?
                    I understand that you are in a tough position to answer my question.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mark Rome View Post

                      I understand that you are in a tough position to answer my question.
                      Right.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Angels_Sing View Post

                        Right.
                        Then, when you are ready, please answer the OP questions.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Angels_Sing View Post

                          Is water baptizing babies any better?
                          We donít teach that baptism alone gives you absolute assurance of salvation. Do you think an 8yo can have absolute assurance?
                          Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (John 14:6)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Og. View Post

                            We don’t teach that baptism alone gives you absolute assurance of salvation. Do you think an 8yo can have absolute assurance?
                            Well, I think that the Catholic position is the best position because it is based on Christ. No non-Catholic has given any reason to adopt anything but the Catholic teaching.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Og. View Post

                              We don’t teach that baptism alone gives you absolute assurance of salvation. Do you think an 8yo can have absolute assurance?
                              Don't you think babies can?

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