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  • highrigger
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    Originally posted by Curious Joe View Post

    The Church of England broke communion with the Church of Rome.

    Your denomination broke from the Church of England.

    You individually espouse beliefs that are fundamentally contrary to Methodism, while still calling yourself a Methodist.

    So yes, you broke away from the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church three times over.
    I broke away from no one at all. You know very little about my church. You make silly claims and never back them up with anything.

    Same ole. Same ole.

    You help me make my case. as usual.

    JohnR

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  • Curious Joe
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    Originally posted by highrigger View Post

    It was not intended to be a negative assurance.
    That's what it is, by definition, even according to the citation you made.

    Embarrass yourself again, John.

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  • highrigger
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    Originally posted by Curious Joe View Post

    Do you even bother to read what you quote?

    "The imprimatur is not an endorsement by the bishop of the contents of a book, not
    even of the religious opinions expressed in it, being merely a declaration
    about what is not in the book."

    This is what you have been told repeatedly. Imprimatur is negative assurance.

    Don't claim to be teaching us what the Church teaches when you can't even accurately relay a Wikipedia entry.
    It was not intended to be a negative assurance. Otherwise why waste all that time? You should be confident that Fr. Brown expresses nothing

    against Catholic faith and morals.

    And he was one of the top scholars of the Catholic church. If you want to ignore him you may. I am glad to have him on my side in the debate.

    JohnR

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  • highrigger
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    Originally posted by Curious Joe View Post

    guess you were home sick the day they covered the charism of infallibility at Catholic school ...
    I feel sorry for those kids.

    JohnR

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  • Curious Joe
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    Originally posted by mica View Post

    that confuses you? I spect it does if one doesn't know Him and have a good understanding of His word. Those who follow the RCC, have neither.

    you should do something about that …
    guess you were home sick the day they covered the charism of infallibility at Catholic school ...

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  • mica
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    Originally posted by mica View Post

    The Holy Spirit is infallible. Humans are not.
    Originally posted by Curious Joe View Post

    changing your tune?
    Originally posted by mica View Post

    yes, one can infallibly know some things. Those confirmed by the Holy Spirit.
    that confuses you? I spect it does if one doesn't know Him and have a good understanding of His word. Those who follow the RCC, have neither.

    you should do something about that …



    Last edited by mica; 07-21-18, 09:12 PM.

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  • Curious Joe
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    Originally posted by mica View Post

    lol! sure Joe... you'd like to think that.

    surely you know this is true, given your extensive Catholic education

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  • mica
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    Originally posted by Curious Joe View Post

    only difference between you and JohnR is that you are still Catholic, and always will be
    lol! sure Joe... you'd like to think that.


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  • Curious Joe
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    Originally posted by highrigger View Post

    I notice that SAINT Augustine who tortured heretics is also quoted in there a lot. I don't read a thing he said. I don't think that torturing heretics is very Holy.

    Do you?

    JohnR
    We're all still waiting for the evidence that Saint Augustine tortured anyone. When can we expect that, John?

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  • highrigger
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    Originally posted by ramcam2 View Post

    These are also in the catechism where you can see church councils, papal encyclicals, ecf writings.... in the footnotes to back it up.
    I notice that SAINT Augustine who tortured heretics is also quoted in there a lot. I don't read a thing he said. I don't think that torturing heretics is very Holy.

    Do you?

    JohnR

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  • highrigger
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    Originally posted by Mark Rome View Post

    They have no need for such a list because it is left up to each individual to decide what the Bible means.
    We have bible studies and the teacher teaches the what is in our official Methodist discipline found on the web.

    No one must agree. We do not have a list of essentials. We respect the opinions of all. That is what makes our bible

    studies so much fun and instructional. We can all chime in with our opinions and scripture verses. We really learn that

    way and enjoy. No one lays down the Law. The opinions of all are respected. You are free to attend and explain your own opinions.

    See you there some day.

    JohnR

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  • highrigger
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    Originally posted by ramcam2 View Post

    are you saying your church does not have a list?
    I thought I explained. My church does not have a list of what is essential to be a Christian. We must accept Jesus Christ s our Lord and savior.

    To be a Methodist we must participate with our prayers, our presence and our service. That is about it.

    I am glad we do not have a CCC with all those ESSENTIAL things that simply confuse poor Catholics.

    JohnR

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  • Curious Joe
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    Originally posted by mica View Post

    The Holy Spirit is infallible. Humans are not.
    changing your tune?

    Originally posted by mica View Post
    yes, one can infallibly know some things. Those confirmed by the Holy Spirit.

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  • Curious Joe
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    Originally posted by mica View Post
    according to the false beliefs of the RCC. since it is false, anyone breaking away from it, does a good thing.
    only difference between you and JohnR is that you are still Catholic, and always will be

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  • mica
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    Originally posted by Curious Joe View Post
    The Church of England broke communion with the Church of Rome.

    Your denomination broke from the Church of England.

    You individually espouse beliefs that are fundamentally contrary to Methodism, while still calling yourself a Methodist.

    So yes, you broke away from the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church three times over.
    according to the false beliefs of the RCC. since it is false, anyone breaking away from it, does a good thing.



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