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  • #16
    Originally posted by Curious Joe View Post

    Yes, Jesus is God, and yes, Jesus is man.

    Yes, Jesus is one person, not two.

    Jesus suffered death
    Yes, so where do you see "two persons"?
    ~~~My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My Father's hand~~~

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Curious Joe View Post

      OK thanks. Which statements do you agree with?
      Read the first line of post 1
      One of the ekklēsia

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      • #18
        Originally posted by tester View Post

        The cessation of life
        Death is the cessation of the unitive functioning of the body. This occurs when the soul (what animates the person) separates from the body.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Mark Rome View Post

          Death is the cessation of the unitive functioning of the body. This occurs when the soul (what animates the person) separates from the body.
          So, when discussing the death of God (as if that were even possible) how would that apply?
          Last edited by tester; 07-12-18, 12:19 PM.
          One of the ekklēsia

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          • #20
            Originally posted by tester View Post

            Read the first line of post 1
            still no Catholic has answered the OP
            One of the ekklēsia

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            • #21
              Originally posted by tester View Post

              So, when discussing the death of God (as if that were even possible) how would that apply?
              The divine nature is hypostatically united with Christ"s human nature (body and soul). While the human soul separated from the human body, Christ's divine nature (which cannot cease to exist) remained united to his soul and body. Thus we can say that God died.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Mark Rome View Post

                The divine nature is hypostatically united with Christ"s human nature (body and soul). While the human soul separated from the human body, Christ's divine nature (which cannot cease to exist) remained united to his soul and body. Thus we can say that God died.
                death is not defined as ceasing to exist
                a dead body has not ceased to exist

                death is defined as ceasing to live
                a dead body has ceased to live:

                Has God ever ceased to live?
                One of the ekklēsia

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by tester View Post

                  death is not defined as ceasing to exist
                  a dead body has not ceased to exist

                  death is defined as ceasing to live
                  a dead body has ceased to live:

                  Has God ever ceased to live?
                  I never defined death as ceasing to exist.
                  Dead bodies don't cease to live. People cease to live.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by 4Him View Post

                    Yes, so where do you see "two persons"?
                    Hmmmm, that's what I'd like to know too.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Mark Rome View Post

                      I never defined death as ceasing to exist.
                      Dead bodies don't cease to live. People cease to live.
                      Has God ever ceased to live?
                      One of the ekklēsia

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Mark Rome View Post

                        I never defined death as ceasing to exist.
                        Dead bodies don't cease to live. People cease to live.
                        Dead bodies are....wait for it...DEAD. Lol

                        You said, "people cease to live" which makes no sense.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by tester View Post

                          Has God ever ceased to live?
                          Define live.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Angels_Sing View Post

                            Dead bodies are....wait for it...DEAD. Lol

                            You said, "people cease to live" which makes no sense.
                            Dead bodies were never live dead bodies. Dead bodies don't cease to live. Bodies cease to live. Then they are dead bodies. Lol

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Curious Joe View Post
                              two persons ...
                              Yeah, it seems that he thinks Jesus and Christ are two different persons.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Curious Joe View Post
                                two persons ...

                                Originally posted by tester View Post

                                Jesus descendant of Abraham from the line of David, son of Mary, Son of Man, the Lamb of God, the last Adam died on the Cross: killed by a few Roman soldiers.
                                His life ceased

                                The Christ, the Supreme Creator of all, the Second Person of the Trinity, the Eternal, the Logos, the Sustainer of ALL things, the Great I AM, the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." did not die on the Cross
                                His life never ceases
                                Great example Joe.

                                Here, tester asserts that Jesus-Human died, but Jesus-God didn't

                                He split Jesus in two persons.

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